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Midterm predictions…cuss and discuss
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Stitt is an arrogant little emperor and I hope he loses. Ditto with Ryan Walters who wants to brainwash our teachers at some cultish institute. Finally Markwayne Mullin is basically another Stitt but obviously less intelligent. Had to vote against all 3 of these guys.
Otherwise I think most of my votes were cast for Republicans.
I think we have a good shot to get rid of Stitt and Walters. Guess we will see tomorrow.
Otherwise I think most of my votes were cast for Republicans.
I think we have a good shot to get rid of Stitt and Walters. Guess we will see tomorrow.
Walters has the best chance of losing of those three. Expect him to run several points behind Stitt.
Well he is the worst of the three imo. Stitt (and his "swagger") is bad but not quite as bad. But I would love to be done with both.
Alright boys and girls is Election Day. Still like my original projections.
Pubs 228 seats in the House
Senate 50-50
Expect lots of close races nationwide. Locally I have Stitt by 5 and expect Pubs to sweep the statewide races. State super will be very close.
One remarkable turnaround is Miami-Dade county. Hillary won this county by 30 points and 300k votes in 2016. Pubs will win there today. Not sure I’ve ever seen a county flip this much this fast.
Everybody get out and vote today. Even Aston, WATU and 1978
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Pubs 228 seats in the House
Senate 50-50
Expect lots of close races nationwide. Locally I have Stitt by 5 and expect Pubs to sweep the statewide races. State super will be very close.
One remarkable turnaround is Miami-Dade county. Hillary won this county by 30 points and 300k votes in 2016. Pubs will win there today. Not sure I’ve ever seen a county flip this much this fast.
Everybody get out and vote today. Even Aston, WATU and 1978
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And the stupid thing is, if Stitt wins and Walters loses, Stitt will reappoint him to the Sec. of Education made up role.
When your sole message is “vote for me because I’m not Stitt” you’re not going to unseat an incumbent regardless of how bad the incumbent or how much money third parties are pouring into the race. Joy never gave voters a reason to vote for her other than “I’m not him”. That gets you rolled by 14 points. A better candidate (or maybe just a better campaign) would have at least made this a competitive race.
Joy obviously wasn’t smart enough to realize in this instance that wasn’t the case. She ran ten versions of the same campaign commercial over and over. Never once addressed the economic issues facing Oklahomans. In the battle of incompetence she was the clear winner….by 14 points. Wonder how the tribes feel today about that $30M they spent on Joy?
As someone who dislikes Stitt, I nevertheless found many ads and flyers distasteful. Most corrupt governor in history? Really? With guys like Walters and Hall in our history? It was over the top and off putting.
Or voters weren’t smart enough to gauge Stitt’s fitness of office when tasked with deciding between the party that they typically support and an unfit candidate.
Are you saying that the Dems only show up for weed?... that explains a lot of things both out there and on here..
What about the character flaw of changing parties because youve been term limited in your current position and want to be governor right now...
Still have to be smart enough to give voters a reason to vote for you. Seldom going to win an election based on “just vote against the other guy”. Hell….her polling the last few weeks had to show she was behind double digits. Yet she never came out with any reason why Oklahomans should vote FOR her. Just kept running the same ole “Stitt is corrupt” ads which weren’t working. Driving up your opponents negatives only works to a specific point. Definition of an unfit candidate and why she lost by 14.
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wtf? Arizona still has 600,000 to 800,000 ballots to count? they might be done by Friday. all in Maracopa county.
Tell all of this to Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
They both won (mostly) on "at least I'm not the other guy" platforms.
Also, it's kind of a farce to call her an unfit candidate and NOT call Stitt one. Your ability to be elected (especially in a state which leans a certain direction) is not related to your fitness for office. Just ask this guy:
This is the entire reason that I say the country has a problem with the poor judgment that our voters tend to show when selecting their representatives. Only a small proportion of voters actually think critically about the person they're electing. How many people do you think got into a voting booth in Oklahoma and said to themselves "well, I've heard that he's crooked, but at least he has an R by his name".....
The answer is... most of them.
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I don't consider that a character flaw at all.
As a matter of fact I think we should have open primaries or even nonpartisan elections like City of Tulsa. That drives moderation which I think we sorely need right now. I am a committed Independent and think our 2 party system sucks, so good for Joy giving me a chance to vote for her. Kudos.
I don’t actually consider Joy unfit. Just needling you a bit for the constant use of the word in this thread. For all of Trumps faults (and there are many) he brought a tremendous amount of people to the polls in 2016. One can argue he brought even more in 2020Tell all of this to Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
They both won (mostly) on "at least I'm not the other guy" platforms.
Also, it's kind of a farce to call her an unfit candidate and NOT call Stitt one. Your ability to be elected (especially in a state which leans a certain direction) is not related to your fitness for office. Just ask this guy:
This is the entire reason that I say the country has a problem with the poor judgment that our voters tend to show when selecting their representatives. Only a small proportion of voters actually think critically about the person they're electing. How many people do you think got into a voting booth in Oklahoma and said to themselves "well, I've heard that he's crooked, but at least he has an R by his name".....
The answer is... most of them.
. The thing about Biden is you know where he stood on the issues when he ran in 2020 due to the amount of time he’s been in politics. People felt very comfortable voting for him. People don’t know Joy or where she stands on practically anything other than believing Stitt is corrupt. Not trying to connect to voters was her greatest failure imo. The small business people I know dislike the unknown and viewed Stitt as the safe albeit distasteful option. The $20M in pro Joy ads by a shadow group also contributed to some of that distrust.
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I'm surprised that the Democratic(& Republican for that matter.) talking heads, and politicians aren't focusing on Alaska and Murkowski being 1.5 pts behind a little bit more, with 72% of the vote counted.
That's almost as important as the four states they have focusing on.
That's almost as important as the four states they have focusing on.
It’s two Republicans and it’s Alaska. Not sure how many people outside of that state really care
Considering her sometimes cross party voting, the Democrats should care. It would be the same story if Manchin or Sinema were losing to a far left candidate. Tshibaka is pretty far right, if she wins the Democrats lose a vote here or there. That seems pretty significant to non Alaskans.
I’ll give ya that. Alaska politics might as well be a foreign country as far as my understanding of the dynamics up there.
An actual preacher who appears to support no or limited restrictions on abortions ? Not sure what you don’t understand about that choice for them ?
Biden used to actively oppose gay marriage yet the LBGT community not only support but campaign for him. Opinions do change and people do at times support what they see as the lesser of two evils.
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I'm old enough to remember when the same thing could be said for Democrats... Walters, Hall, Synar, Jones.. and 70 counties worth of commisioners..
So...
There will be corruption in both parties in the future, carries about the same relevance.
Walker didn't claim that he changed his mind on the issue.... he claimed that his baby mamas were lying....
The fact that he has baby mamas at all would have been enough to disqualify a candidate in a long ago time when people's religious views actually mattered in their evaluation of candidates.
You’re acting like people not necessarily placing their religious views on politicians as a reason to support or not support them is a bad thing? I realize it’s still done but any extent we can get away from this should be a good thing….correct ?
As far as Warnock, I support reasonable abortion access but a candidate who backs no restrictions would pose of hurdle for me regarding my support as would a candidate who is against any abortion access. Where are the damn moderates?
If so many didn't publicly profess that their political views were shaped by their moral compass, and if the politicians they voted for didn't use their "conservative Christian values" as a talking point... then I would care about the issue. It's not only Hypocrisy.... it's Hypocrisy in favor of a legitimately (and self admitted) dumb candidate, just because he's "not the other guy"
Also it's just really annoying for people to point to some invisible moral compass and then completely ignore it in almost every case when taking a different viewpoint might allow them to actually more closely adhere to that moral compass.
We just saw an entire guberturial campaign here based on vote for me because “I’m not the other guy”. PA just elected a Senator because he’s “not the other guy”. We have an elderly cognitive limited President because he’s “he’s not the other guy”. Guess it does work out for the best at times
. Hell….I will vote for a guy who I believe doesn’t know where he is at times in 2024 over Trump. Suppose I’m one of those hypocrites now.
Corruption and politics go hand in hand... doesnt matter R, D, I, L, or name your alphabet soup... very few come out of office poorer than when they took office.. and very few have poorer friends and associated as a result..
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