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Midterm predictions…cuss and discuss

Dems would be well served to keep Donald out of the kind of legal trouble which would prevent another presidential run.
 
Dems would be well served to keep Donald out of the kind of legal trouble which would prevent another presidential run.
what legal troubles? the Dems have spent 7 years and taxpayer money, for what?

lot of accusasions, and if he dids.
wheres the conviction in a Real court room.
 
Spoiler for Desantis?
1). I expect Trump to actively attack DeSantis. Will be more effective than Dem attacks imo
2). Trump still gets Dems to the polls.

Dems should sit back and let Trump destroy the Pub party. He will try.
 
1). I expect Trump to actively attack DeSantis. Will be more effective than Dem attacks imo
2). Trump still gets Dems to the polls.

Dems should sit back and let Trump destroy the Pub party. He will try.
Yeah, Dem attacks are just ignored by 85% of the Republicans and by maybe 20% of the indy's. They don't hit home as much as a republican. That's why the liberal media jumps on any republican criticism of Trump like white on rice. Yep on Trump getting them to the poles.

I think Desantis would take a few more hits from Trump and maybe beat Trump at this point. But Trump could be the nomination,(and bring out wack job nation once again) or he could spoil Desantis' popularity a little. Desantis not running against Trump would leave him and/or Trump more popular in the general.

I would hope all of it is BS though. My desire is that Liz Cheney wipes them both off the face of the earth, and gets biden out of office. Wouldn't that be something, if the Dems got the joy of first female President stolen from them. We can always dream.
 
Yeah, Dem attacks are just ignored by 85% of the Republicans and by maybe 20% of the indy's. They don't hit home as much as a republican. That's why the liberal media jumps on any republican criticism of Trump like white on rice. Yep on Trump getting them to the poles.

I think Desantis would take a few more hits from Trump and maybe beat Trump at this point. But Trump could be the nomination,(and bring out wack job nation once again) or he could spoil Desantis' popularity a little. Desantis not running against Trump would leave him and/or Trump more popular in the general.

I would hope all of it is BS though. My desire is that Liz Cheney wipes them both off the face of the earth, and gets biden out of office. Wouldn't that be something, if the Dems got the joy of first female President stolen from them. We can always dream.
Liz is done as a viable political figure imo.
 
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Nah if Liz Cheney has even managed alienate me, who agrees with 99% of her Trump/Republican critique, she’s got no constituency at all outside the Democratic Party. She lost most of us when she started singing only one note. Yes, Trump should have been removed and yes he should never hold office again, but that cannot be the only thing you talk about. You represent an entire state of people and have to talk about things that matter to them. She deserved to lose her primary.
 
I'm hoping she gets a better reception from Republicans who aren't Wyoming, and yes it's a pipe dream.

In my dream it starts out as a grass roots type of campaign, but with lots of money in the bank.
Liz endorsed and campaigned for a number of Dems in midterms. She would receive a better reception at this point from the Dem party.
 
Liz endorsed and campaigned for a number of Dems in midterms. She would receive a better reception at this point from the Dem party.
She'd be better than Biden, Trump, and Desantis. The Democrat's would hate it once she got in office though. She wouldn't support the policies they want. The left of the Democratic party would go nuts over her.(not in a good way)
 
She'd be better than Biden, Trump, and Desantis. The Democrat's would hate it once she got in office though. She wouldn't support the policies they want. The left of the Democratic party would go nuts over her.(not in a good way)
She will never get the Dem nomination without support of the left wing of the party…something she will never receive.
 
Nah if Liz Cheney has even managed alienate me, who agrees with 99% of her Trump/Republican critique, she’s got no constituency at all outside the Democratic Party. She lost most of us when she started singing only one note. Yes, Trump should have been removed and yes he should never hold office again, but that cannot be the only thing you talk about. You represent an entire state of people and have to talk about things that matter to them. She deserved to lose her primary.
No, no she did not. Standing up for the importance of the sanctity of a free and open Republic is important. Her primary challenger is a lunatic.
 
Rs just lost an R+13 seat in WA after Trump helped oust a fairly popular R incumbent in favor of his hand picked turd. He will likely cost Rs a senate seat in GA with another one of his hand picked turds.
For as long as I've lived here, Jaime Herrera Beutler has owned that district because she also appeals to moderate democrats in what are effectively Portland suburbs. It's how she consistently runs 6-7 points ahead of Trump. Pushing her out of office based purely on retribution for her impeachment testimony was incredibly dumb. Even then, it's likely still a R seat if they run anyone other than Joe Kent. I can't imagine a worse candidate for that district. The guy's entire stump speech was just reading aTUfun posts aloud. He called for the defunding of service academy sports on the day of the Army-Navy game. Who's possibly dumb enough to think that's a smart political move?

 
For as long as I've lived here, Jaime Herrera Beutler has owned that district because she also appeals to moderate democrats in what are effectively Portland suburbs. It's how she consistently runs 6-7 points ahead of Trump. Pushing her out of office based purely on retribution for her impeachment testimony was incredibly dumb. Even then, it's likely still a R seat if they run anyone other than Joe Kent. I can't imagine a worse candidate for that district. The guy's entire stump speech was just reading aTUfun posts aloud. He called for the defunding of service academy sports on the day of the Army-Navy game. Who's possibly dumb enough to think that's a smart political move?


Yeah, it’s very dumb. I think a party can get away with having a bad brand if it runs candidates that fit their districts / states (see Susan Collins), but you can’t play the clown nose on clown nose off game running more clowns.
 
I don’t get the sense that he was. For one, he already had significant early support from Thiel. And for another, it’s still an R+13 district. Would seem like a pretty massive risk even with a candidate that terrible.

edit: Also, as of mid-October, the DCCC had contributed $0 to Perez’s campaign. Certainly wouldn’t be the first time they were incompetent, but pushing for the MAGA opponent in the primary and then doing nothing to help their candidate would be 4d chess.
 
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I wonder if work from home shifted some demographics in that area as well… a lot of people who used to live and work in Portland decided to go across the border for the no state taxes in Washington When they were told they wouldn’t have to do the sucky commute.
 
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I'd say the republic is quite a bit safer seeing as how Finchem and Marchant didn't win. The only outright election deniers who won elections as secretaries of state were in like 5 states I think. And those states have gone republican for many years, and won't likely change in the near future.

The only states that were kinda purplish, and had election deniers in a close race were Arizona & Nevada. By the time those secretary's are out of office,(in those 5 states) hopefully this election denier thing will have calmed itself down. That way some halfway unbiased/sane people will win those offices, and let this thing pass us by as much as it can.
 
we just completed another election cycle were the candidates spent 10 to 20 million dollars to get a job that pays $200,000.00 a year.

no wonder they spend billion and trillions that we dont have on manusha. they have no fiscal perspective. and we keep re-electing them
 
we just completed another election cycle were the candidates spent 10 to 20 million dollars to get a job that pays $200,000.00 a year.

no wonder they spend billion and trillions that we dont have on manusha. they have no fiscal perspective. and we keep re-electing them
So do you want to cap what can be spent on individual campaigns?
 
So do you want to cap what can be spent on individual campaigns?
The older and more cynical I become the more my views have shifted toward some sort of campaign finance reform. When a third party spends $20M plus to elect a politician said third party is normally expecting some sort of payback imo. To make matters worse they are able to form PACs where the voters have difficulty in tracing the source of those contributions. Not sure what reforms are needed but it is something we need to revisit.
 
As long as news networks continue to act as campaign arms, I’m not in favor of any limits on contributions. And as long as we live in a culture that does not tolerate disagreement and gets people fired for political views, anonymous giving will be essential. I probably would be in favor of raising the amounts you can give anonymously.
 
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The older and more cynical I become the more my views have shifted toward some sort of campaign finance reform. When a third party spends $20M plus to elect a politician said third party is normally expecting some sort of payback imo. To make matters worse they are able to form PACs where the voters have difficulty in tracing the source of those contributions. Not sure what reforms are needed but it is something we need to revisit.
Stop calling businesses people. They shouldn’t be allowed to contribute to campaigns, fund PAC’s etc…
 
This limp biscuit performance by the republicans, in this election they should have run away with, is sad. Sad because it wasn't any grand thing the Democrats did to stave it off. If anything the Democrats didn't do the things they should have to stave it off. I hate to think what would have happened if they had done the things they should have, like talking about the economy more. They would likely have a couple of three senators more majority in the senate, and maintained the majority in the house by a few votes.

It was all due to bad candidates in the republican party. McConnell called it correctly before the campaigns really got started. Let's see if they learned their lesson in '24.
 
I've heard from one of the many pollsters who got it wrong. In his analysis he said the redistricting hurt the republicans. That's interesting because it was mostly the republicans in charge of various redistricting, and they hurt themselves. I wouldn't think that happens very often, that you hurt your party with redistricting.
 
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I've heard from one of the many pollsters who got it wrong, and in his analysis he said the redistricting hurt the republicans. That's interesting because it was mostly the republicans in charge of various redistricting, and they hurt themselves. I wouldn't think that happens very often, that you hurt your party with redistricting.
 
Yeah I'd say the Democrats got a little juice out of Nevada, and the Republicans got virtually nothing out of Arizona, despite their redistricting. All the republicans got out of Maryland was one representative. A lot of those states that went one way or the other were so solidly republican or democratic in the first place, that it didn't really matter as much that they redistricted them.

It is even in number of states redistricted in favor of one party or the other. I don't know or feel like looking into how much it helped or hindered the party,(at the moment) on a more complex basis than comparing state to state electoral votes/house seats with each other.(out of the ones that swung one way or another in redistricting)
 
It was all due to bad candidates in the republican party. McConnell called it correctly before the campaigns really got started. Let's see if they learned their lesson in '24.

Don’t forget SCOTUS abortion decision and years of Republicans pushing that issue to the forefront. Single women overwhelmingly voted Democratic. Fox host’s solution: Republican men to ‘put a ring’ on them before the next election. ;-)
 
I’m sure abortion had some effect, probably not evenly distributed. But since governors like Desantis, Kemp, Abbott, and Dewine, who put in restrictions, mostly won by even wider margins than last election it doesn’t seem like it was an overwhelming factor. At the end of the day normal conservatives mostly did pretty well and Trumpy stop the steal types/general poor fit candidates did not.
 
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Will single women still overwhelming support the Dems if they fail to take steps to pass a reasonable abortion rights law? Hard to continue to use as a political weapon if you don’t act on the same.
 
the dems had better ads.
Rep accused dem of being Socialist and spending too much.
dems painted the rep as the devil: anti womens rights and taking away ss.
 
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due to all the reported problems people had voting, machine malfunctions, lack of ballots, validating ballots, and counting. Arizona should throwout all this election and have a new election. It has been done before.
 
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