No offense, but the DLs are not close, RBs we don't have much experience behind Hill, but they seem to be pretty good
osu, what to expect?
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Jeremy Smith and Jesse Brubaker are some of the best d linemen in the country, Kolton could be thrown in there as well. Dline is very close whether you want to believe it or not. We have one of the hbs that set the 1,000 yard record back, as well as Corey Taylor, and Javon Thomas, and POSSIBLY Warren.
Smith and Brubaker are legit. I think they would be in OSU's rotation. OSU has the advantage because they go two deep across the entire front with little to no dropoff. In an area where you have to play a number of people this gives OSU the edge.
I like TU's running backs. There's not a Justice Hill but there's quality and depth. No idea what OSU has behind Hill. If a pup doesn't step forward there's a pretty significant dropoff when Hill goes to the bench.
I could agree that they do have more depth there. But as far as the starters, I don't see any drop off there.
Is there some Eskimo Joe's giveaway for the most patronizing OSU fan? Every time we play you guys in any sport, this board is flooded with a bunch of JustinTheCowboyInUpstateAlaska accounts trying to pokesplain the matchup to us. Trust me, we get our daily recommended value of OSU condescension year-round from our own resident lawpoke. So maybe save your Athlon unit rankings for the South Alabama fans.
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I would give the edge to OSU's starting defensive tackles. Call DEs a wash. OSU fans don't realize how good TU's end are. I think they will be surprised at the pressure they put on Rudolph.
I would give the edge to OSU's starting defensive tackles. Call DEs a wash. OSU fans don't realize how good TU's end are. I think they will be surprised at the pressure they put on Rudolph.
That's the matchup I'm most interested in watching. I have no idea what effect not having Dane in the backfield will have on the defensive alignments we will see (it will have some). Can our OL block that extra defender? It will be more difficult to run this year. How much is the million dollar question.
It's all going to depend on if our QB steps up and is a threat to throw , if he can pass , I think it will actually be easier to run this year, our depth is ridiculously good at RB this year. I think the true million dollar question is, DO WE HAVE A QB GOOD ENOUGH. If you just watch the film, we do. But when it's game time , can they step up ?
You say you're comparable, I say you're not. I offer objective analysis, you offer empty rhetoric.
Actually, throughout this whole debate, I really feel I have given great points , whether someone wants to believe them is their choice. OSU is obviously the favorite, nobody is arguing that. Some of us feel however, if TU can take advantages where our strengths are at, we have a shot to win this game. And as far as the whole TU fanbase trying to underestimate OSU and over hyping TU is a very false statement, matter of fact, I think it is quite the opposite. Many of your fans are saying it will be over by half, while our fans are just stating things that could give us a shot to win, it doesn't take a genius to realize TU has grown up and has one of the best coaching staffs in the country and will do everything in their power to see TU is put in the best position to win this game. OSU may very well win, but it will not be a blowout. The only team OSU blew out last year was SE Louisiana St. and a very overhyped Colorado team with an injured QB
Yes you are right, I forgot about them, but they weren't that good last year
Comparing OSU of this year to last year is a bad comparison. For one, the offensive line at the start of the year was not very good. They progressed tremendously from start to finish. Second, mason was injured for parts of last year as well that significantly hurt performance. Last, we were limited at wide receiver outside of Washington. Lacy stepped up but was inconsistent at times. Our running back is significantly better in terms of strength and understanding of the game.
Being able to blow a team out is predicated on having a very good offense. The weapons OSU has on the field this year our far better than last year. Ateman is a big gain because it gives us another consistent threat on the outside. Add in transfer Tyron Johnson and we have many options. Stoner also is not injured anymore which gives us another threat with Mccleskey.
Bottom line, our offense is lethal. I won't deny that tulsa maybe able to move the ball on our defense but I just don't see them keeping up in the scoring battle. A new Qb for TU will not allow them to win because OSU will score at will and your QB will make a mistake.
I just feel a preseason ranking isn't something to be proud of, like I said , they have Texas at 23, a team that didn't make a bowl last year, do I think OSU will be good this year? Absolutely. Do I think they will contend for a Big 12 title? Yes. However, if OSU goes in thinking it will be a cake walk, they will lose this game, Tulsa is far better then a Central Michigan or Central Arkansas. If they play the way they have been doing their openers the past two seasons, TU wins
Objective Analysis not/= Athlon's. You make me laugh.
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Our guys will not take you lightly, they are very focused.............I agree somewhat with what you said about the polls, Texas , OU , schools like that will be in every pre season poll no matter what kind of talent they have, when a school like OSU, or Tulsa or other non traditional powerhouses are in, its usually because they are pretty good. Texas does have a ton of talent, their coaching has been horrendous, Special teams have killed them against us the last two years........two years ago , Remember, it looked like OT, and their punter dropped the snap and kicked it out of bounds at their own 12 and we kicked the winning FG, last year, even though it was not responsible for the entire points difference, we blocked three PATs and returned one for 2 points
It always lends credibility, respectability, and of course likeabilty when a poster comes on here touting a degree from Tulsa and then slams us in the post..
Unlike Lawpoke, you have no posting history to indicate you are much more than one of Boones Trolls.
Everyone knows that Athlon, like every other preseason mag, lives off the money they get from making P5 schools fanboys blow their loads in the periodicals section at Barnes and Noble (no affiliation)... Athlon is the Night Trips of preseason mags for wannabe contenders and pretenders of all sizes. Just reading a few paragraphs is like a printed lap dance that makes these idiots actually think that they have a chance...
So.. was it good for you?
Not at all.. just saying that they are in the business of making money (which you seem to be enamoured with) and like a drop out osu cheerleader that takes to the pole to support the running backs baby, they gotta give the customers what they want. Or they don't get paid.
Preseason mags that tell P5 schools the truth don't survive.
Noblecane is apparently more of expert than the Tulsa world, ESPN, cnnsi, foxsports, and every other Major network that thinks OSU should win handily.
If he had quoted Steele then I would not have said anything. Athlon and it's ilk are nothing other than P5 fanmags.
I actually don't even read them, I study College football all year long, its my hobby, I think , and research something about it every day...........If I see one of those magazines and have a minute I might look at it just to see how accurate it is, but I have friends at every school's Athletic Department in the state and beyond that keep me informed.........Don't get me wrong here, I am not saying I know everything, but, I probably do know more than most, I do know enough that , as I said I can skim an article in one of those magazines, or online and make numerous corrections to just about all of them
Have I made a prediction on the game... nope.
Just love jerking the chains of our pet poke fanboys and their over inflated image of their Orange painted phallus.
Admittedly I haven't been on this board very long but even I have noticed it. Also, you constantly refer to Osu and Tulsa as "we" which is not something I've seen before. It's pretty obvious that you favor the pokes in sports and Tulsa for academics.
How are the Sooners looking? I think they could really surprise some people this year
I have degrees from both. Like having two children, I embrace them both. I'm not sure how to call one we and the other they. If a gun were held to my head I probably follow OSU more in football and TU in basketball. If you follow my posts and info on TU basketball you will see that I'm pretty tied into what's going on with Haith and Co.
I think everyone is going to be surprised at how quickly Rudolph is going to get rid of the ball this season. He worked all Summer with Zac Robinson you get a quicker release. Also word out of camp is that his intermediate throws are much improved. Givn that one of the reasons Bill Young was let go as the Cowboys' DC is that his corner coverages were to soft, look for us to attack that right out of the gate.
BY will play a soft zone and keep everything in front of the corners and safeties. He will count on OSU not being able to string ten play drives together and if they do force FGs in the red zone. It's a sold strategy considering the weapons he's defending against. Fatigue is the only problem with such a game plan.
I agree. Not all eight of them. Does TU go two-deep at every back seven position?
This is TU's problem with OSU in a nutshell. Their starting 22 can match up fairly well with OSU's starting 22, but a Top 12 P5 program like the Pokes or Sooners will just wear them down with depth. In 2015, Tulsa won the turnover battle by two, but still got worn down and lost by 14.
Their only shot is to score a lot, early, and hope for plus three in the turnover margin.
The problem we had with OU was our defense was atrocious at that time and we where way outgunned in the talent department. Won't be that way this time. Not saying TU wins, just saying that was the main reason why we lost against OU
But you...you are the pinnacle of objectivity! No fan boy in blue and gold, you. Athlon's rankings also included multiple G5 programs. You're just feeling an unusually virulent episode of butt hurt that they don't drink the same Kool-Aid you gulp down.
As for my TU bona fides, I spent many days toiling as a TA in BAH and consumed much pizza and beer in ACAC. Even yelled insults at Gino Terretta when he and the U visited SKelly Stadium.
Is this guy putting OSU in the same realm as OU? Now that is way off base. OSU really wants to be included in the conversation of good programs but OU will always be better and if they ever kick OSU off of their back, OSU will not be attractive to other conferences. OSU is only where they are because OU has been very nice.
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