They can be in the conversation regarding good teams. They certainly will be this season and it's not an anomaly. They've invested in their program and it has made them part of the conversation. They however are not in the same conversation as Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas, Michigan, the real OSU, and the other bluebloods. When those guys have a bad season it's an anomaly and their expected to box nice back immediately and usually do. With the teams that are part of the"good" conversation the question is why it will take and how long before they can get their ship in order again. There are lots of good teams in today's college football landscape but just a few elites.