So considering you guys are about the best in the AAC, if we as just an average team from a poor conference obliterate you guys, does that mean we win it all?
osu, what to expect?
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Don't even give K-State that amount of shade, they would dominate the AAC, Baylor would be a top 4 team, Iowa State would be middle of the pack, Kansas is Kansas, and Tech all depends on their quarterback so who knows.
Edit* - I didn't even read down to the part where you said no one else was very good, Texas, OSU, TCU, and WVU would take over the AAC, don't act like your conference is better overall than the Big 12.
I'm not discounting them, but OSU did just get the JUCO player of the year at linebacker, Tre Flowers is a proven safety, Ramon Richards is a great playmaker, Adrian Baker helps to sure up the corners a little, and Chad Whitener is always a great guy on the field.
I did say OSU was better because OSU is having one of their 1 in 10 years this year ( And it looks like thay may not have broken the rules like they have done before on various occassions). OSU is catching Tulsa at a good time and they are better. BTW, The American has been ranked above the the Big 12 on various occasions during the past two years. Also, using your analysis, the American was WAY better than the Big 12 last year because a team that could not win their division in the American run ruled the best team in the Big 12.
This. My thing though is WHAT DID osu do last year so special to get that ranking? They didn't do anything better than Tulsa, this and the fact that OSU may think we lost too much last year to compete with them. We will treat this like our super bowl. OSU does not realize the athletes we have, thus the " TU doesn't match up anywhere with us" TU comes out with the upset in this one.
1 of 10 is a little harsh when OSU is 1 of only 7 schools to be ranked in every playoff poll that has come out and 1 of only 4 schools to have won 10 or more games 5 of the last 7 years , so as I said 1 of 10 is a little harsh, BTW that's also playing a schedule that is ranked in the top 25 each year
Texas and Kansas State are exact opposites, one has some of the best coaching that can beat you while the other one has the athletes. But if you are calling a team that got beat by Kansas good, go for it .
We'll take our from 5th place down to leave Tulsa & OSU out of this and we'll compare conferences.
Your next best 6 vs. our next best 6 (2016 matchups)
Memphis vs. Baylor - Memphis has a 2/10 chance at best
UCF vs. TCU - TCU would win this game by 2 possessions at least
Houston vs. Texas - The only good game I can see on this list
SMU vs. Texas Tech - SMU would not be able to stop Pat Mahomes at all
Cincy vs. Iowa State - Iowa State can hang with teams in the Big 12 any time, so they wouldn't have a problem with Cincy
Tulane vs. Kansas - Kansas is Kansas
They're not good, but they screw themselves is one score games, which happened to be a lot. Keep in mind Texas was 4-2 at home, pretty respectable and 1-4 on the road, which screwed them, Texas beats Texas.
Actually, I believe we are picked around 4th while you guys are picked to win your conference, so it would be ANOTHER middle of the pack American team beating the Big 12 champion
That is the same exact case with SMU and Cinnci, look at the athletes Cinnci has , and now the have Fickle as their coach
Ok well to add onto my previous statement, don't take one loss as how a team played, because Texas beat OU.
Anything can happen, but not likely, in fact I will be surprised if it is within 4 tds
You couldn't even beat Kansas or Iowa State that badly, I don't see why Tulsa will be any different, and yes I understand one game is not a trend like you said, but close games with Kansas State, Iowa State, Central Michigan, getting handled by OU is more then just one game, that is starting to become a trend.
Cincinnati would beat Iowa State, techs defense could not stop SMU enough to beat them, Houston and Texas, I agree with you,UCF and TCU would be a good game, and I agree with Memphis getting beat by Baylor, it's pretty similar if you ask me
Somebody pin this. If TU does win, I want the evidence to be around when these same jokers start arguing that Tulsa is a quality loss for a 10-1 OSU team going into playoff ranking and Bedlam.
Lets be honest, it will be a big upset this year and this year only for TU to win. We need to concentrate on the conference and going to a new years day bowl. That is a huge possibility. We are in a better position than OSU for the new years day bowl.
I disagree. If we lose to OSU and run the table after that we could be in that bowl picture. Last year we got thumped by Ohio state and if we had not lost to Houston or navy we would have been in the champ game and above western Michigan and in a New Years 6 game
Well I want a win against the pokes! But as they say in college football if your gonna take a loss take it early that way you have a chance to bounce back
True, I do have my big group of TU fans ready to go and watch the Hurricane take the win in Stillwater!
I have a lot of respect for Tulsa University. My brother is going to law school there and my Dad went to law school at TU.
As for football, I think TU has built a respectable program. In the past, TU could probably beat OSU or the game would be a toss up at best. Even last year, I think TU would give OSU a game and possibly beat them.
However, OSU will be playing on a very high level. The offense is deep and diverse. This will probably be the best offense in the country whether in the big 12 or not. The defense will be above average which will give them a shot in any game.
You can make fun of the big 12 and say it is an average conference but anyone can get up for one game. Try playing OU and then turning around and have to play West Virginia on the road. The conference will test your depth and ability to get up for multiple big games. I guarantee Tulsa would rarely win 10 games in the big 12 and Houston would probably be like TCU.
As for football, I think TU has built a respectable program. In the past, TU could probably beat OSU or the game would be a toss up at best. Even last year, I think TU would give OSU a game and possibly beat them.
However, OSU will be playing on a very high level. The offense is deep and diverse. This will probably be the best offense in the country whether in the big 12 or not. The defense will be above average which will give them a shot in any game.
You can make fun of the big 12 and say it is an average conference but anyone can get up for one game. Try playing OU and then turning around and have to play West Virginia on the road. The conference will test your depth and ability to get up for multiple big games. I guarantee Tulsa would rarely win 10 games in the big 12 and Houston would probably be like TCU.
Regardless of what you think, reality is that if you win the big 12 then you are a lock for a good bowl. Tulsa would have to nearly go undefeated with one loss or less.
Kansas State is a good team with probably one of if not the best coach in the country. It's laughable that you act like beating them is some kind of slight.
Playing OU with an injured QB in the rain hurts more than anyone would realize. It will be a tight game in Stillwater this year and not even close to the game in Norman in prior.
I didn't say Kansas State was bad, I clearly said they are the exact opposite of Texas , ( great coach, talent lacks a little bit) what you OSU fans don't realize is the Big 12 is not what it used to be like when it had Nebraska and Texas A&M. It has dropped big time. I also find it funny your continued disrespect for the American when it has clearly beaten the Big 12 not only on the field, but rankings. Face it, the only reason OSU is ranked the way they are is because they are "P5". Yes, you may beat us, but it's not going to be the way you think.
The American conference has some good teams. The problem with what you are saying is that you equate Houston beating OU as some kind of measurement of the entire conference. I remember in the 90s when OSU almost beat the undefeated Nebraska dream team. OSU finished the season with a losing record but Nebraska could have lost the game. Sustainability in the American conference is easier than the big 12. There are more teams like Kansas in the American conference. Yes, they have good teams but there are more bad teams than the big 12. The top 6 could beat anyone in the American conference.
I do agree that our last 2 or 3 teams are worse then yours. But as far as the top 6 goes, anybody could beat anybody in that group.Its pretty even there. Also , I HEARD that Kansas put some big time money into their football program, so they may turn out pretty good. I don't know if that's true though.
I have to respectfully disagree with you concerning Houston. If Houston were in the Big 12 they would easily pass Texas. They would not have lost their coach to UT and in a few short years they would be battling OU for the conference championship. They would never lose a Houston surrounding area kid to osu or any out of state school. The league would become OU - Houston and the rest. With osu then losing the Houston area for recruiting they would be on par with K-State, TTech, & TCU on a yearly basis. osu just has to remain thankful that Nebraska, Texas A&M, and Missouri left the Big 12 or they would be a lower level team in their own division.
I find it funny that osu fans like to stress how superior to Tulsa.
They have a much bigger athletic budget from being in a p5 conference and riding the coattails of thr front runners, larger student base, state funds.
If they want to be big time why are they obsessed with us instead of OU.
They have a much bigger athletic budget from being in a p5 conference and riding the coattails of thr front runners, larger student base, state funds.
If they want to be big time why are they obsessed with us instead of OU.
I don't believe there's one thread on the OSU rivals football board about TU. Not saying there shouldn't be btw
We haven't won there in almost 60 years. I doubt the Cowboy fanbase is taking this one too seriously.
Cowboy fans are much more concerned about the road game against Pitt. As I've said before, if TU can get good QB play this will he a game. If not I expect the result to resemble the last four or five meetings between the schools.
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