This is the Democratic Party.

[HuffyCane]

We vote for the candidate. Not the nameless faceless unaccountable people who are supposedly doing what the candidate would want. And we hold that person alone accountable at the polls.

They are running everything newsworthy out of the White House and ignoring the cabinet and sub cabinet officials. Thats why it seems like nobody is in control when things go wrong like the supply chain or smuggled kids working in meat packing plants. The result is you can go into the hospital for a few days and nobody notices, cares, or was following the procedures that would otherwise force everyone to notice that the guy in charge is not only not in charge but not even there.

And that’s what’s chilling about that whole incident. You can take comfort in a White House taking action in the best interests of the country despite partisan differences. But there is apparently no accountability and that means normally disciplined people will run amuck, especially as they get closer to leaving.

 

[aTUfan]

We vote for the candidate. Not the nameless faceless unaccountable people who are supposedly doing what the candidate would want. And we hold that person alone accountable at the polls.

They are running everything newsworthy out of the White House and ignoring the cabinet and sub cabinet officials. Thats why it seems like nobody is in control when things go wrong like the supply chain or smuggled kids working in meat packing plants. The result is you can go into the hospital for a few days and nobody notices, cares, or was following the procedures that would otherwise force everyone to notice that the guy in charge is not only not in charge but not even there.

And that’s what’s chilling about that whole incident. You can take comfort in a White House taking action in the best interests of the country despite partisan differences. But there is apparently no accountability and that means normally disciplined people will run amuck, especially as they get closer to leaving.

it seems like a lot of policy and regulations become "law", without congress.

 

[astonmartin708]

We vote for the candidate. Not the nameless faceless unaccountable people who are supposedly doing what the candidate would want. And we hold that person alone accountable at the polls.

They are running everything newsworthy out of the White House and ignoring the cabinet and sub cabinet officials. Thats why it seems like nobody is in control when things go wrong like the supply chain or smuggled kids working in meat packing plants. The result is you can go into the hospital for a few days and nobody notices, cares, or was following the procedures that would otherwise force everyone to notice that the guy in charge is not only not in charge but not even there.

And that’s what’s chilling about that whole incident. You can take comfort in a White House taking action in the best interests of the country despite partisan differences. But there is apparently no accountability and that means normally disciplined people will run amuck, especially as they get closer to leaving.

^The candidate is only as good as his administration, especially a candidate who‘s major claim for viability is his ability to run businesses.

You elect a candidate who can be a chief executive. Trump sucks as an executive.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

it seems like a lot of policy and regulations become "law", without congress.

You would have loved it during the first half of last century. All 8 Presidents averaged over 700 executive orders per term while in office. President Trump ordered around 220(none of which you likely minded) and Biden has issued around 120 so far.

 

[HuffyCane]

^The candidate is only as good as his administration, especially a candidate who‘s major claim for viability is his ability to run businesses.

You elect a candidate who can be a chief executive. Trump sucks as an executive.

And they electorate held him accountable in 2020

 

[Gmoney4WW]

And they electorate held him accountable in 2020

 

[noble cane]

Heres a newspaper clipping for Aston..

Michelle Obama may already be working on a 2024 White House bid

Obama’s wife is scratching to maybe be our next president. Her husband’s helping. Pay attention.

nypost.com

 

[aTUfan]

Heres a newspaper clipping for Aston..

Michelle Obama may already be working on a 2024 White House bid

Obama’s wife is scratching to maybe be our next president. Her husband’s helping. Pay attention.

nypost.com

what ever happened to electing our Best and Brightest?

 

[astonmartin708]

Heres a newspaper clipping for Aston..

Michelle Obama may already be working on a 2024 White House bid

Obama’s wife is scratching to maybe be our next president. Her husband’s helping. Pay attention.

nypost.com

Neah

 

[astonmartin708]

what ever happened to electing our Best and Brightest?

Oh that ended when you voted for George Bush.

 

[aTUfan]

Oh that ended when you voted for George Bush.

who did he run against, Ole what's his name?

 

[TulsaRulzOSUdrools]

Neah

The NY Post is just Fox News, but with the fund page six site?

 

[lawpoke87]

Oh that ended when you voted for George Bush.

Sad that Dubya currently makes Trump, Biden and Harris all look like Mensa members.

 

[astonmartin708]

Sad that Dubya currently makes Trump, Biden and Harris all look like Mensa members.

Bush was certainly more intelligent than Trump, but I wouldn’t put him above Biden. Maybe equal to Harris who isn’t so bright. Biden from 10+ years ago would have run circles around Bush intellectually.

 

[lawpoke87]

Bush was certainly more intelligent than Trump, but I wouldn’t put him above Biden. Maybe equal to Harris who isn’t so bright. Biden from 10+ years ago would have run circles around Bush intellectually.

I intentionally stated “currently” in my post. Harris is on an entirely different level of low intelligence btw.

 

[lawpoke87]

The NY Post is just Fox News, but with the fund page six site?

Michelle Obama is currently 3rd in the betting odds to become our next President. Let’s not pretend this is just the NYP throwing out garbage.

 

[noble cane]

Sad that Dubya currently makes Trump, Biden and Harris all look like Mensa members.

I met and talked with W when he was running for Gov of TX. I came away with the impression that he was someone that I didnt want to sit down with to a game of poker.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

I met and talked with W when he was running for Gov of TX. I came away with the impression that he was someone that I didnt want to sit down with to a game of poker.

Chess?

 

[noble cane]

Chess?

Dont know. But since poker forces you to make cost/benefit decisions based on knowing only partial situational information, it does seem fairly analogous to real world situations. But, I get the point you are making and implying.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Dont know. But since poker forces you to make cost/benefit decisions based on knowing only partial situational information, it does seem fairly analogous to real world situations. But, I get the point you are making and implying.

I didn't see his intellect getting in the way of being president. Many presidents fall into the 115-130 iq scores.

I think Kamala falls little below that range. Trump in his prime, way below.

 

[lawpoke87]

I didn't see his intellect getting in the way of being president. Many presidents fall into the 115-130 iq scores.

I think Kamala falls little below that range. Trump in his prime, way below.

A little below? Have you listened to her talk? She is below average when compared to the average person. I’m sure there are politicians I would rate her below I just can’t think of any off the top of my head

 

[Gmoney4WW]

A little below? Have you listened to her talk? She is below average when compared to the average person. I’m sure there are politicians I would rate her below I just can’t think of any off the top of my head

She got through law school at UC. I would think it would take an iq of 100-115 to struggle through law school. I call that the next category, and in my mind a little below. My guess is she is in the 100-110 range. 105 compared to 115 is a little below in my book. Maybe not in yours?

My guess is she had to study her ass off in law school and for the bar. I wonder how many times she failed the bar. I think I have heard bar qualifications are a little easier in Cali, but I'm not sure without looking it up. Even if they are, I still think she had to study her ass off and fail a number of times.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

A little below? Have you listened to her talk? She is below average when compared to the average person. I’m sure there are politicians I would rate her below I just can’t think of any off the top of my head

I looked it up, and they are considered one of the more difficult bars to pass. So she had to get past that hurdle.

 

[lawpoke87]

I looked it up, and they are considered one of the more difficult bars to pass. So she had to get past that hurdle.

UC grads have over a 90% bar passage rate last time I checked. California bar passage rates overall are a little misleading in that almost anyone can sit for the bar.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

UC grads have over a 90% bar passage rate last time I checked. California bar passage rates overall are a little misleading in that almost anyone can sit for the bar.

My calc teacher in high school who was the wrestling coach, bragged about having to take calc five times in college to pass it. Maybe she was the same on the bar.

It was so funny that he felt like bragging on that. Myself and two other students were 'co-teachers' in that class.

 

[lawpoke87]

My calc teacher in high school who was the wrestling coach, bragged about having to take calc five times in college to pass it. Maybe she was the same on the bar.

It was so funny that he felt like bragging on that. Myself and two other students were 'co-teachers' in that class.

Sounds like myself and organic chemistry. Dropped it twice before I finally gave up. Frat life and studies didn’t mix well early on in the college career

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Sounds like myself and organic chemistry. Dropped it twice before I finally gave up. Frat life and studies didn’t mix well early on in the college career

Math wasn't my strongest subject but I was way ahead of him.

I put Kamala in as being slightly brighter than him.

 

[aTUfan]

I intentionally stated “currently” in my post. Harris is on an entirely different level of low intelligence btw.

Harris is lower than Quale

 

[bluegold70]

calc....organic chem....law school.......hell guys....my toughest class was advanced basket weaving....and i had to sober up to pass that one.....i think the only reason i ever got into grad skool was cause they needed more grad students at that time....y'all are a bunch of geniuses....

 

[HuffyCane]

California does not require a law degree for admission, only bar passage.

For this reason, and the large number of topics covered, it is widely considered the most difficult bar exam. I have a friend who has a PhD in divinity and a medical license. He went to law school at night because “he found it relaxing.” He said the California bar exam was by far the most difficult intellectual exercise of his life and he’s written three books.

Fun fact: There are convicted cop killers in prison for life who have studied and passed it.

The Vice President gets a check mark on intelligence and critical thinking skills with me. Poor marks for communication skills generally.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Harris is lower than Quale

Quayle.

 

[lawpoke87]

California does not require a law degree for admission, only bar passage.

For this reason, and the large number of topics covered, it is widely considered the most difficult bar exam. I have a friend who has a PhD in divinity and a medical license. He went to law school at night because “he found it relaxing.” He said the California bar exam was by far the most difficult intellectual exercise of his life and he’s written three books.

Fun fact: There are convicted cop killers in prison for life who have studied and passed it.

Interesting. Wonder why bar passage rates for the better law schools in California are higher than TU, OU and OCU in Oklahoma.

 

[HuffyCane]

Interesting. Wonder why bar passage rates for the better law schools in California are higher than TU, OU and OCU in Oklahoma.

They teach for the test and the quality of faculty and students is generally better in the lower half. Puerto Rico suffers from this problem as well.

Oklahoma has the highest bar passage rate in the nation. But nearly all of the students who fail, are coming out of our state law schools. Overal passage rate: 87% in OK versus 66% in CA.

 

[lawpoke87]

I show bar passage rate in Oklahoma at 68%.

Bar Exam Statistics | The Oklahoma Board of Bar Examiners (OKBBE)

 

[HuffyCane]

The ten year average is much higher, the figure I quoted, and if you adjust for relative difficulty based on format and number of questions/subjects, it’s not hard to find commentary on the internet that says Oklahoma is the easiest exam. It’s enough to make you wonder about the likely performance of the 70% who do pass and whether they would pass in other states like Texas or Illinois.

Now that’s not to diminish the exam. I took Oklahoma and several other states. Oklahoma had a bunch of curve balls like Oil and Gas and bankruptcy. Saying it’s the easiest is about like comparing which home is burning hottest after a forest fire sweeps through.

Any event, the only commentators you’ll find out there saying California’s exam isn’t the toughest concede it’s second. Virginia is really hard. Not just because of the number of subjects but a lot of obscure rules left over from colonial times that aren’t taught in other states. And the quality of the pool of people taking it is significantly higher. Staying out of the lower 30% subset that fail in that pool is significantly more difficult than in Bismarck or Billings.


The Vice President should not be underestimated for her intelligence.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

The ten year average is much higher, the figure I quoted, and if you adjust for relative difficulty based on format and number of questions/subjects, it’s not hard to find commentary on the internet that says Oklahoma is the easiest exam.

Now that’s not to diminish the exam. I took Oklahoma and several other states. Oklahoma had a bunch of curve balls like Oil and Gas and bankruptcy. Saying it’s the easiest is about like comparing which home is burning hottest after a forest fire sweeps through.

Any event, the only commentators you’ll find out there saying California’s exam isn’t the toughest concede it’s second. The Vice President should not be underestimated for her intelligence.

I guess she is just trying to seem like the common man when she speaks publicly. 😜

I always heard she was tough to beat in court as the D.A. Never looked at how many cases she won though.

 

[HuffyCane]

I guess she is just trying to seem like the common man when she speaks publicly. 😜

I always heard she was tough to beat in court as the D.A. Never looked at how many cases she won though.

Prosecuting cases is probably the easiest area of law practice once you learn how to admit evidence properly. Something most lawyers have no clue how to do. It’s a nice way to advance your political ambitions if you don’t come from money or privilege. Shes not the first to use that career path to rise and she was exceptional at it. Which tells you a lot more about her intelligence and savvy than whether she tried 60 murders. For most prosecutors 2/3 of their case load was caught on video or there was a confession. Most trials aren’t hard. The guy is guilty, but the State’s offer is too high to just say “yeah, I’ll go to prison for 35 years”. You take the trial and gamble the judge gives you less. From that standpoint, great prosecutors aren’t necessarily elite smart. They are consistent despite fatigue, have good divided attention and listening skills, and think quickly in improvised situations. They don’t fold under pressure. Qualities some might say are good to have if you are a President.

 

[astonmartin708]

I show bar passage rate in Oklahoma at 68%.

Bar Exam Statistics | The Oklahoma Board of Bar Examiners (OKBBE)

Interesting, the engineering pass rates in PE Petroleum Engineering are substantially lower nationally. (Or they were prior to going to computer based testing)

 

[lawpoke87]

What is our response ?

 

[HuffyCane]

Covert. Third option. It’s an election year.