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I think experience coaching that age group but also understanding the unique dynamic of being a high school athlete and the ultimate goal being to graduate HS and then have options beyond graduation whether it's going to college, being workforce ready, etc. Mike Wilson's stated goals every year was to have 100% eligibility throughout the year and get the 6A academic award for having the highest team GPA in the class. He was a hell of a soccer coach to boot and he developed his players in all aspects of life (IMO). I don't necessarily think you need to be a high level club coach, but you should have to demonstrate a certain level of expertise in coaching this age group because it's more than just technical and tactical knowledge.
Union does not care about highest gpa in the class. That sounds good but #2 in student population and ridiculous facilities wants trophies.

How many first round exits would union tolerate with the highest 6A GPA?
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TU’s new AD must be a dynamic fundraiser

then why even bother? If we struggle with relevance playing at the top level, then we may as well close the door and turn off the light if we have to move down to FCS+ (or whatever the hell they’ll call it).

One of the big draws of TU for me (outside of the obvious items) was that TU had D1 sports and played high level football. There are many of my fellow alums who feel the same way. Taking that away could cause some pretty big consequences in regard to support for the university.

If there’s a 32-40 team beak off at the top, then fine - let them go be NFL lite, that still holds most of college football intact, but if the whole “p4” goes and the “g5” get relegated, then eff it. It was fun while it lasted.

This sh!t pisses me off so much.
It won’t really change alumni support for the university. I think it will dramatically change who is interested in attending the school. And the academic quality of who we can attract.

TU’s new AD must be a dynamic fundraiser

then why even bother? If we struggle with relevance playing at the top level, then we may as well close the door and turn off the light if we have to move down to FCS+ (or whatever the hell they’ll call it).

One of the big draws of TU for me (outside of the obvious items) was that TU had D1 sports and played high level football. There are many of my fellow alums who feel the same way. Taking that away could cause some pretty big consequences in regard to support for the university.

If there’s a 32-40 team beak off at the top, then fine - let them go be NFL lite, that still holds most of college football intact, but if the whole “p4” goes and the “g5” get relegated, then eff it. It was fun while it lasted.

This sh!t pisses me off so much.
I think the SEC and the Big 10 will eventually be the only 2 “ power conferences “ left. I think some of the big 12 and acc will get sucked up into those 2 conferences and the the rest will be in our division. If TU ever becomes irrelevant, I’ll just quit watching sports and just go on hunting and fishing trips 😂
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Pray For Israel 🇮🇱 🙏

You lost me when you described 30k-40k soldiers as a “handful of terror cells”. Aside from your gross mischaracterization, I would hope most reasonable people would hope for peace in Gaza as well as Ukraine.
“soldiers”

There’s a difference between hoping for peace and hoping for human decency. Defending yourself from invasion is a valid reason for conflict. Yes I hope for peace, but I also don’t support inhumane unprovoked invasions. Nor do I support terror by Hamas or responsive genocide by Israel.

Amtrak

“If a community applies in this grant program and the governor and the Senate delegation are not behind it, it is not going to happen,” he said.

This is our problem. Lack of political will. Our district 1 congressman, for example, is leading the charge to kill Amtrak. We have no political leaders at the state or local level advocating for Tulsa.

This could change if Monroe wins the mayoral race.

The FRA long distance study is a totally different thing. Not driven by Amtrak or mainly by the states. But political will is still needed to take a plan and act on it. Federal money is necessary.
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Amtrak

Interesting read, especially the parts about how the new trains are better than the old trains, nicer and faster, even the non-bullets. The new train from St. Paul to Chicago is the same duration as the drive if drive traffic is good, and that's a huge if. Most of the time, the train will be faster. A few interesting points.

"In total, Amtrak hopes to add new service in 160 communities in 16 new states, including outposts like Pueblo, Colorado; Madison, Wisconsin; and Salisbury, North Carolina."

"All US regions would see some improvements, but one of the goals of the plan is to better align service with new population centers in the Sun Belt and US South."

"But on other fronts, the Amtrak rescue seems to be flying below the culture war jockeying. In February, Ohio Governor Mike DeWine, a Republican, sought federal funds for a “corridor ID” study, the first exploratory step to expanded service. And GOP-dominated Texas took a first step putting itself forward for funds, exploring expanded service in the “Texas Triangle” between Houston, San Antonio and Dallas."

“If a community applies in this grant program and the governor and the Senate delegation are not behind it, it is not going to happen,” he said.

This time around, rail advocates feel more confident that political brinkmanship can be avoided. That’s because the legislation was written in a way that makes it more attractive even for states that have been hostile in the past. States that apply for funding for new service will be offered not just the capital funding for construction, but operational costs will be heavily subsidized, especially in the early years: 90% of the operating costs for new service will come from the feds in the first year, followed by 80% the second year and 70% the third, and so on.

“It’s not a deal that states have ever been offered,” said Magliari. “It’s a much lower bar to get over and it gives service a chance to prove itself.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...k-s-75-billion-plan-to-revive-us-train-travel

TU’s new AD must be a dynamic fundraiser

NIL has obviously opened the door for young athletes to make more money than they have
ever seen before, and most of the legal minds and people of influence all seem to be on the
side of NIL being even more open with even less control....And of course, we have to include
all of the "potential agents" that do so much of the illegal contacts with players that have not
agreed to enter the portal, somet6imes on the request of specific programs....

The NCAA, for several reasons, lost their taw some time ago....They fear legal liability if they
try to limit NIL to the extent that it would be a restraint of trade issue, and they also fear that
the "top 60" might bolt and go off on their own if they are constrained too much....

I'm afraid that other than minute rules changes, that NIL will be with us somewhat longer than
two years....Many say that we can"t sustain any sense of fairness if we continue as we are...I5)36
would be in that voting bloc myself, but the legal constraints are going to pose large barriers to
any "reasonable" solutions....
NIL in its present form is a euphamism for wages currently. Once they have a collective wage, they will still have the ability to negotiate their own approved NIL just like any other pro player. Much like minor league baseball players not named Michael Jordan, that value is next to nil. Pun intended. NIL will be around. It won’t move the needle if some of the current litigation is settled favorably to the players suing

Local HS Soccer

What are our expectations of a high school coach ? Do we expect them to be at an ECNL level? Have an A or B license? Played professionally? Coached hundreds of high level games? I have no idea what license Gross has or his experience, if any, at high level club competition as a coach. Any professional playing experience? Goes back to my original question…what are our expectations of high school soccer coaches?
I think experience coaching that age group but also understanding the unique dynamic of being a high school athlete and the ultimate goal being to graduate HS and then have options beyond graduation whether it's going to college, being workforce ready, etc. Mike Wilson's stated goals every year was to have 100% eligibility throughout the year and get the 6A academic award for having the highest team GPA in the class. He was a hell of a soccer coach to boot and he developed his players in all aspects of life (IMO). I don't necessarily think you need to be a high level club coach, but you should have to demonstrate a certain level of expertise in coaching this age group because it's more than just technical and tactical knowledge.

TU’s new AD must be a dynamic fundraiser

I disagree.

I think the legal landscape will be more firm over the next two years making NIL largely
irrelevant.
NIL has obviously opened the door for young athletes to make more money than they have
ever seen before, and most of the legal minds and people of influence all seem to be on the
side of NIL being even more open with even less control....And of course, we have to include
all of the "potential agents" that do so much of the illegal contacts with players that have not
agreed to enter the portal, somet6imes on the request of specific programs....

The NCAA, for several reasons, lost their taw some time ago....They fear legal liability if they
try to limit NIL to the extent that it would be a restraint of trade issue, and they also fear that
the "top 60" might bolt and go off on their own if they are constrained too much....

I'm afraid that other than minute rules changes, NIL will be with us somewhat longer than
two years....Many say that we can"t sustain any sense of fairness if we continue as we are...I
would be in that voting bloc myself, but the legal constraints are going to pose large barriers to
any "reasonable" solutions....

Local HS Soccer

What are our expectations of a high school coach ? Do we expect them to be at an ECNL level? Have an A or B license? Played professionally? Coached hundreds of high level games? I have no idea what license Gross has or his experience, if any, at high level club competition as a coach. Any professional playing experience? Goes back to my original question…what are our expectations of high school soccer coaches?

USMNT Player Pool Discussion

What really stinks is when there is a fan favorite striker but the club knows they need help to stay up the following year. So they move out two or three defensive starters to free up cash to go sign a big name scorer on the open market.
Josh Sargent?? BTW, it is estimated that promotion to the Prem. is worth about $300 million to the club.

Pray For Israel 🇮🇱 🙏

If this thread has evidenced anything to me it’s simply a confirmation of my perception that American conservatives are happy to be human rights ignoring hawks when it’s convenient for them to be because the conflict aligns with their agenda and they’re fighting a handful of terror cells mixed in with a bunch of half starved women and kids they can bomb, but when actual sacrifice and difficulty is encountered (like in Ukraine) they tuck their tail.

Some might call it strategic…. Others might call it a bully’s cowardice.

That a whole lot of words when you could have just used a cry face emoji

TU’s new AD must be a dynamic fundraiser

As much as most of us don’t like it, the reality is NIL is here to stay. NIL is a huge part of athletic success. TU just lost its top men’s & top women’s basketball player. TU must hire a dynamic fundraiser as their new athletic director.

TU has a small alumni base, but is the best sports entertainment option in a metro area of over 1 million people. TU must find a way to attract new fans and donors that are not alumni. We need a dynamic fundraiser to connect with the Tulsa area business community.

If we are to have athletic success in today’s NIL world we must truly become Tulsa’s team. That starts with hiring a new AD that has the personality and energy to lead that drive.er th
I disagree.

I think the legal landscape will be more firm over the next two years making NIL largely irrelevant.

While the debate over NIL has been front and center, that has really just been a ploy by labor leaders and labor/trial lawyers to force concessions on wages for participation as part of an overall strategy of finding college football liable for antitrust violations.

Without going into a diatribe that some of you hate, what you are seeing trickle out is a multi stage, multi decade legal strategy.

One of the little discussed nuances of anti-trust law is that you are able to recover triple damages for wage fixing violations. There is no limit as far back as that can go. The labor unions, and their lawyers, have been trying to get a hold of that kind of $50 billion dollar payout for about 20 years. Basically, threatening the NCAA that they are liable not just for not paying the players this season, but every season, going back to the creation of television and even radio. Times three. It could take millions and years for experts to determine just how much that number is, and they’ve been trying for awhile.

The NIL thing was always a way to sympathetically phrase the problem to the public and get the system evolving towards a wage model. Once there, strategically filed law suits, one of which is pending settlement, would memorialize what a fair wage scale based on gross revenues would be, if there was actually a single body to collectively bargain with, which there likely never will be. Then the guys trying to get a settlement that would make tobacco lawyers blush can go after all the past money. TU’s liability could be considerable.

So the lawyers knowledgeable on these issues, lawyers who have never lost a case, and have been doing sports law since their clients Curt Flood, Freeman McNeil, Etc were playing say it’s 10% of gross media rights. We are talking guys who are in Michael Jordan’s speed dial. Guys David Stern called the most dangerous men in America.

So in TU’s case, let’s say media revenue stays at $7 million. And let’s say Congress or the President steps in and says the women get an equal share. That’s $7 million divided by 530 roughly, Or approximately $13,000 a player. Not much more than what we are paying them now in Alston funds and none of it erodes the donor base.

Now that will stink for TU because it will mean that the pay will always be lower than the SEC. And we likely won’t be in the top classification anymore. But it also means the new AD probably shouldn’t run out and raise $10 million to give to our basketball team when that money could be spent on appropriately sized and budgeted facilities we have needed for twenty years.
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