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Interesting development as MLS Next announced an alliance with the Girls Academy to "enhance player development..." Wonder what ECNL thinks about this.
MLS Next and ECNL have been at odds for sometime now. ECNL has been very aggressive in pursuing and signing GA clubs. Lone star out of Austin being the latest. The objective appears to be to run GA out of business as a competitive platform. It’s working to some extent. MLS Next is taking similar actions with ECNL on the boys side. I know they have plans to expand MLS Next2 clubs/teams.

On the girls side, I doubt ECNL is very concerned. They are in a dominate position. I view the boys side as a bit different. Curious to see how MLS Next2 competes with ECNL. I wouldn’t be surprised to see an MLS Next2 team in Oklahoma in the next year or two. It’s coming imo.
 
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Barry allegedly paid $240k. $217,500 was owed at time lawsuit was filed. Don’t have any other details yet
Probably realized he was going to lose and prolonging it would just mean he'd pay more lawyer fees. Probably settled for amount owed plus some of the other side's legal fees.

Mark will be happy this is done with.
 
Barry allegedly paid $240k. $217,500 was owed at time lawsuit was filed. Don’t have any other details yet
I heard $180k that included the Mac's portion. Definitely wasn't a summary judgement. Doubt anyone will actually know the truth. Attorney's made some $$$$
 
Probably realized he was going to lose and prolonging it would just mean he'd pay more lawyer fees. Probably settled for amount owed plus some of the other side's legal fees.

Mark will be happy this is done with.
I figured it was likely interest. I think everyone will be happy this is over Especially those who guaranteed his debt and got drug into this mess.
 
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MLS Next and ECNL have been at odds for sometime now. ECNL has been very aggressive in pursuing and signing GA clubs. Lone star out of Austin being the latest. The objective appears to be to run GA out of business as a competitive platform. It’s working to some extent. MLS Next is taking similar actions with ECNL on the boys side. I know they have plans to expand MLS Next2 clubs/teams.

On the girls side, I doubt ECNL is very concerned. They are in a dominate position. I view the boys side as a bit different. Curious to see how MLS Next2 competes with ECNL. I wouldn’t be surprised to see an MLS Next2 team in Oklahoma in the next year or two. It’s coming imo.
Lately, I've been tuning into the ECNL podcasts, where the hosts present strong opinions on college, professional, and youth soccer. Listening to them raises questions about their experience and understanding of youth development history. They continuously advocate for a school-aged approach over a birth-year model, as if everything was ideal back then and none of the issues they highlight existed. It almost feels like they stepped into a thriving league without acknowledging its evolution.

In my high school days, there were attempts to create national leagues like the Super Y, but those initiatives never gained momentum. Today, leagues like ECNL, MLS Next, GA, EA, NPL, and others are relatively new developments. While they have certainly enhanced competitiveness at the higher levels, this shift has also led to increased costs for families.

In Tulsa, the higher-end competition is becoming diluted because some individuals misrepresent their children's skills and the prestige of their clubs, their coaching abilities at the top end and the potential to parents.

It’s remarkable how OEFC has managed to maintain its size in OKC, especially in light of the current situation here. I’m uncertain whether this is due to effective leadership at the top or a lack of competition. With 12 boys' teams and seven girls' teams in the 2014 age group, their numbers rival those in Dallas. While the lower-tier teams may not be particularly strong, their presence is a crucial support for funding the upper-tier teams.
 
Lately, I've been tuning into the ECNL podcasts, where the hosts present strong opinions on college, professional, and youth soccer. Listening to them raises questions about their experience and understanding of youth development history. They continuously advocate for a school-aged approach over a birth-year model, as if everything was ideal back then and none of the issues they highlight existed. It almost feels like they stepped into a thriving league without acknowledging its evolution.

In my high school days, there were attempts to create national leagues like the Super Y, but those initiatives never gained momentum. Today, leagues like ECNL, MLS Next, GA, EA, NPL, and others are relatively new developments. While they have certainly enhanced competitiveness at the higher levels, this shift has also led to increased costs for families.

In Tulsa, the higher-end competition is becoming diluted because some individuals misrepresent their children's skills and the prestige of their clubs, their coaching abilities at the top end and the potential to parents.

It’s remarkable how OEFC has managed to maintain its size in OKC, especially in light of the current situation here. I’m uncertain whether this is due to effective leadership at the top or a lack of competition. With 12 boys' teams and seven girls' teams in the 2014 age group, their numbers rival those in Dallas. While the lower-tier teams may not be particularly strong, their presence is a crucial support for funding the upper-tier teams.
Just my opinion but the school class approach is done primarily to assist colleges in recruiting. They can come to one game and everyone on the field will be one class (Sophomores or Juniors for example). I would argue the class approach doesn’t really matter until the player’s freshmen year.

OEFC has strengthened its position as the top Oklahoma club over the past few years imo. One only has to compare the current ECNL league standings for OEFC and TSC to see the vast difference in quality of teams (girls side). The exodus of players from TSC to OEFC has only widened the gap. There are a multitude of reasons imo for the current difference in clubs but quality of coaching as well as player and coach retention (especially on the girls side) is a significant factor. The 2011 ECNL girls at TSC have lost 7 players in the last six months. A Tulsa club cannot sustain those kind of losses. New leadership at TSC is much needed. Hopefully that occurs sooner rather than later.
 
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Just my opinion but the school class approach is done primarily to assist colleges in recruiting. They can come to one game and everyone on the field will be one class (Sophomores or Juniors for example). I would argue the class approach doesn’t really matter until the player’s freshmen year.

OEFC has strengthened its position as the top Oklahoma club over the past few years imo. One only has to compare the current ECNL league standings for OEFC and TSC to see the vast difference in quality of teams (girls side). The exodus of players from TSC to OEFC has only widened the gap. There are a multitude of reasons imo for the current difference in clubs but quality of coaching as well as player and coach retention (especially on the girls side) is a significant factor. The 2011 ECNL girls at TSC have lost 7 players in the last six months. A Tulsa club cannot sustain those kind of losses. New leadership at TSC is much needed. Hopefully that occurs sooner rather than later.
Having an extra 500k people in your market also helps. That said...Tulsa gets people from Arkansas a lot.

Stability helps. On the girl's side, I am guessing that lots of talent has spread out in Tulsa. Some are going down to OKC, and others have gone sides with RL groups or, as we know from this board, even Dallas. Many parents probably think they are super cool now that they are doing well in the RL groups. So many of them probably have little to zero idea how big of a chasm between NL and RL teams.


As a true-blood Tulsan, it disgusts me that so many people are going down to OKC. I hope it disgusts people, too. It is so insulting to this city people are going down there to play. I refuse to believe Jimmy Hampton's legacy is beyond Tulsa.

Do you think cyp needs to be exited? What is his issue? I had a close friend's daughter who is very good to leave to go to OKC. She is an excellent player and the mom cited him.
 
Having an extra 500k people in your market also helps. That said...Tulsa gets people from Arkansas a lot.

Stability helps. On the girl's side, I am guessing that lots of talent has spread out in Tulsa. Some are going down to OKC, and others have gone sides with RL groups or, as we know from this board, even Dallas. Many parents probably think they are super cool now that they are doing well in the RL groups. So many of them probably have little to zero idea how big of a chasm between NL and RL teams.


As a true-blood Tulsan, it disgusts me that so many people are going down to OKC. I hope it disgusts people, too. It is so insulting to this city people are going down there to play. I refuse to believe Jimmy Hampton's legacy is beyond Tulsa.

Do you think cyp needs to be exited? What is his issue? I had a close friend's daughter who is very good to leave to go to OKC. She is an excellent player and the mom cited him.
I really like Cyp as a person. I believe he was thrown into ECNL due to coaches leaving the club before he was ready. His 09s are 3-9. His 11s are also 3-9. Both those teams have worse records this year under his leadership than last year. Poor performance creates tension among the players, parents, coach and club. I don’t believe Cyp has done a very good job in addressing the turmoil caused by losing. Some of the 2011 player losses were due to him while others fall back on Barry.

Nathan Doll is the best girls coach at TSC imo. They need to keep him in the fold. The girls staff needs consistency and Nathan is a great place to start building that foundation.

I don’t believe TSC has a single coach on the girls side who holds an “A” license. I’m sure Dirk will correct me if I’m incorrect. There are 16 girls teams in the ECNL Texas conference. I would be will to be that TSC is the only club who doesn’t have a single girls coach who holds an “A” license.
 
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I really like Cyp as a person. I believe he was thrown into ECNL due to coaches leaving the club before he was ready. His 09s are 3-9. His 11s are also 3-9. Both those teams have worse records this year under his leadership than last year. Poor performance creates tension among the players, parents, coach and club. I don’t believe Cyp has done a very good job in addressing the turmoil caused by losing. Some of the 2011 player losses were due to him while others fall back on Barry.

Nathan Doll is the best girls coach at TSC imo. They need to keep him in the fold. The girls staff needs consistency and Nathan is a great place to start building that foundation.

I don’t believe TSC has a single coach on the girls side who holds an “A” license. I’m sure Dirk will correct me if I’m incorrect. There are 16 girls teams in the ECNL Texas conference. I would be will to be that TSC is the only club who doesn’t have a single girls coach who holds an “A” license.
I have no idea. Vuko got his “A” license and I wouldn’t let him coach my son. Most coaches don’t get licensing because of $ not their abilities. Cyp would probably be better on the boys side. Nathan is a Star. Chris is great on the boys side. Tony is ok. Leo is awesome but the culture differences in US verse South America makes things tricky. Maybe to many Brazilian coaches?
 
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