I agree about the 16 seeds. They won their conference tournaments and a right to be in the field of 64. The first 4 should pit the last 8 at large teams playing for the 12 and 13 seeds. Heck, I'd be OK if they all played to be the 16 seeds...maybe then the #1 seeds wouldn't essentially be getting byes into the 2nd round. And the 16 seeds should be reserved for the last teams to get into the field regardless of NET ranking. And the last 8 at large teams are literally the last teams to get in.
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I think this version of Gonzaga, at least to the eye test, is more suited to a 5-6 seed. I know they have good players but they seemingly constantly struggle whenever I turn one of their games on. At those moments it seems the teams they are playing have figured out how to take Timme out of the game.
While I do agree, I don’t see the committee giving the #6 team in the NET a seed under the 3 line. Plus they absolutely love the Zags
Still could happen if the Zags got a 3 seed in the second round, if ORU pulled the upset over the 6 seed.
They are really lacking guards this season. Worst i have seen in forever. Be interesting to see how they do going forward without Tommy Lloyd who was their main recruiter.( Especially overseas) who is now the head coach at Arizona.
Be weird watching next year without Timme.
They'll replace him with another version of him. I mean he basically replaced Adam Morrison in almost the same role. And Few has turned Gonzaga into 2nd chance U in basketball taking castoffs from power conferences and turning them into juggernauts. Eric McClelland finished his college career there after getting the boot from Vandy for being mixed up in some type of theft ring. Few has done that for a number of players who went to a power conference school and left after a year or two. Few will just reload again.
Agree on the seeding, but they only like the Zags. What they truly love is money and power...
Gonzaga would monkey stomp ORU. It would be fun for Gonzaga.
Ha! Maybe next year but they have earned the right to be in the Big Dance this year.
I want to be interested but the worse we are the less I care about sports at all.
Tried to watch some conference tourney stuff the past few days but cannot get into it.
Tried to watch some conference tourney stuff the past few days but cannot get into it.
To be honest I probably won’t watch a game other than the Tulsa game until the NCAA tournament. I will watch any game in the tournament
Usually I’m able to clear my schedule come tourney time but this year I have a dental appointment on the first Thursday and a luncheon during both the sweet sixteen and the elite eight.
OSU should be up by 12 at the half not 6. They are 15 points better than OU. ORU would beat OU. I think OSUis too big for ORU.
Funny you said that. A friend of mine who’s an OSU fan texted me earlier today that ORU would beat OSU.
I know I would rather watch this year’s 30-4 ORU in the tournament over an 18-15 OSU. This quad ranking system heavily favors the big conferences.
On top of it, the basketball is just flat out bad. I tried watching some games yesterday and the basketball was just bad. Houston/Memphis on Sunday was one of the best games I've seen this year. Even the showdown between Gonzaga and St. Mary's, 2 very good teams, was not interesting because St. Mary's played awful. Tried watching a little of the Texas Tech and WVa game yesterday...awful. OSU and OU was almost as bad. B1G basketball is nearly unwatchable these days as well...even Purdue who has the freak in Edey who is absolutely dominant, has some really poor guard play.
Right now my rooting interest seems to be I want UCONN to flame out so hard so I can see their message board melt and who they pass the blame to this time.
Day 11 of Conference Tournaments
MEAC– March 8-11
MEAC – Quarterfinals – Norfolk, VA
SWAC– March 8-11
SWAC – Quarterfinals – Birmingham, AL
Big 12– March 8-11
Big 12 – Quarterfinals – Kansas city
Mountain West– March 8-11
Mountain West – Quarterfinals – Las Vegas, NV
Big East– March 8-11
Big East – Quarterfinals – New York, NY
MAAC– March 7-11
MAAC – Quarterfinals – Atlantic City, NJ
MAC– March 7-11
MAC – Quarterfinals – Cleveland, OH
CUSA– March 8-11
CUSA – Quarterfinals – Frisco, TX
ACC– March 7-11
ACC– Quarterfinals – Greensboro, NC
PAC-12– March 8-11
PAC-12 – Quarterfinals – Las Vegas, NV
WAC– March 7, 9-11
WAC – Quarterfinals – Las Vegas, NV
MEAC– March 8-11
MEAC – Quarterfinals – Norfolk, VA
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Morgan St. | 287 | at | UMES | 229 | 5:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Coppin St. | 326 | at | Norfolk St. | 191 | 7:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
SWAC– March 8-11
SWAC – Quarterfinals – Birmingham, AL
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Prairie View | 277 | at | Jackson St. | 305 | 2:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Alabama A&M | 321 | at | Southern | ### | 8:30 p.m. | ESPN+ |
Big 12– March 8-11
Big 12 – Quarterfinals – Kansas city
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Iowa St. | 20 | at | Baylor | 12 | 11:30 a.m. | ESPN |
| West Virginia | 19 | at | Kansas | 8 | 2:00 p.m. | ESPN |
| Oklahoma St. | 41 | at | Texas | 9 | 6:00 p.m. | ESPN2 |
| TCU | 29 | at | Kansas St. | 17 | 8:30 p.m. | ESPN2 |
Mountain West– March 8-11
Mountain West – Quarterfinals – Las Vegas, NV
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Colorado St. | 110 | at | San Diego St. | 16 | 2:00 p.m. | CBSSN |
| San Jose St. | 96 | at | Nevada | 36 | 4:30 p.m. | CBSSN |
| UNLV | 90 | at | Boise St. | 27 | 8:00 p.m. | CBSSN |
| New Mexico | 50 | at | Utah St. | 22 | 10:30 p.m. | CBSSN |
Big East– March 8-11
Big East – Quarterfinals – New York, NY
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| St. John's (NY) | 98 | at | Marquette | 13 | 11:00 a.m. | FS1 |
| Providence | 53 | at | Uconn | 7 | 1:30 p.m. | FS1 |
| DePaul | 169 | at | Xavier | 23 | 6:00 p.m. | FS1 |
| Villanova | 72 | at | Creighton | 14 | 8:30 p.m. | FS1 |
MAAC– March 7-11
MAAC – Quarterfinals – Atlantic City, NJ
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Marist | 291 | at | Quinnipiac | 164 | 6:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Niagara | 253 | at | Siena | 201 | 8:30 p.m. | ESPN+ |
MAC– March 7-11
MAC – Quarterfinals – Cleveland, OH
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Miami (OH) | 284 | at | Toledo | 79 | 10:00 a.m. | ESPN+ |
| Ohio | 138 | at | Ball St. | 147 | 12:30 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| UNI | 215 | at | Kent St. | 68 | 3:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Buffalo | 183 | at | Akron | 105 | 5:30 p.m | ESPN+ |
CUSA– March 8-11
CUSA – Quarterfinals – Frisco, TX
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Western Ky. | 173 | at | Fla. Atlantic | 15 | 5:30 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Charlotte | 112 | at | Middle Tenn. | 119 | 6:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Louisiana Tech | 162 | at | North Texas | 42 | 8:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Rice | 198 | at | UAB | 58 | 8:30 p.m. | ESPN+ |
ACC– March 7-11
ACC– Quarterfinals – Greensboro, NC
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Wake Forest | 91 | at | Miami | ### | 11:00 a.m. | ESPN2 |
| Pittsburgh | 56 | at | Duke | 25 | 1:30 p.m. | ESPN2 |
| North Carolina | 44 | at | Virginia | 30 | 6:00 p.m. | ESPN |
| NC State | 37 | at | Clemson | 61 | 8:30 p.m. | ESPN |
PAC-12– March 8-11
PAC-12 – Quarterfinals – Las Vegas, NV
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Colorado | 70 | at | UCLA | 4 | 2:00 p.m. | PAC12 |
| Washington St. | 69 | at | Oregon | 47 | 4:30 p.m. | PAC12 |
| Stanford | 95 | at | Arizona | 11 | 8:00 p.m. | PAC12 |
| Arizona St. | 65 | at | Southern California | 48 | 10:30 p.m. | ESPN |
WAC– March 7, 9-11
WAC – Quarterfinals – Las Vegas, NV
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| California Baptist | 170 | at | Sam Houston | 60 | 2:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Grand Canyon | 120 | at | Seattle U | 143 | 4:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Tarleton St. | 161 | at | Utah Valley | 74 | 8:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
| Utah Tech | 158 | at | Southern Utah | 104 | 10:00 p.m. | ESPN+ |
Atlantic 10– March 7-9, 11-12
Atlantic 10 – Quarterfinals – Brooklyn, NY
SEC– March 8-12
SEC – Second Round – Nashville, TN
BIG 10– March 8-11
Big 10 – Quarterfinals – Chicago, IL
American– March 9-12
American – First Round – Fort Worth, TX
Check back each day for new updates
Automatic Qualifiers
Looking for an at Large Bid – These are the top NET teams that have not receive the automatic
Atlantic 10 – Quarterfinals – Brooklyn, NY
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Davidson | 145 | at | VCU | 66 | 10:30 a.m. | USA NET |
| George Mason | 129 | at | Saint Louis | 102 | 1:00 p.m. | USA NET |
| Saint Joseph's | 200 | at | Dayton | 75 | 4:00 p.m. | USA NET |
| La Salle | 220 | at | Fordham | 134 | 6:30 p.m. | USA NET |
SEC– March 8-12
SEC – Second Round – Nashville, TN
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Mississippi St. | 46 | at | Florida | 59 | 12:00 p.m. | SEC NET |
| Ole Miss | 126 | at | Tennessee | 3 | 2:00 p.m. | SEC NET |
| Arkansas | 18 | at | Auburn | 32 | 6:00 p.m. | SEC NET |
| LSU | 151 | at | Vanderbilt | 82 | 8:00 p.m. | SEC NET |
BIG 10– March 8-11
Big 10 – Quarterfinals – Chicago, IL
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| Rutgers | 43 | at | Michigan | 54 | 11:00 a.m. | BTN |
| Ohio St. | 57 | at | Iowa | 38 | 1:30 p.m. | BTN |
| Penn St. | 55 | at | Illinois | 33 | 5:30 p.m. | BTN |
| Minnesota | 218 | at | Maryland | 26 | 8:00 p.m. | BTN |
American– March 9-12
American – First Round – Fort Worth, TX
| Team | Rating | Team | Rating | Time | TV | |
| East Carolina | 208 | at | South Fla. | 152 | 11:30 a.m. | ESPNU |
| SMU | 209 | at | UCF | 71 | 1:30 p.m. | ESPNU |
| Tulsa | 322 | at | Wichita St. | 109 | 6:00 p.m. | ESPNU |
Check back each day for new updates
Automatic Qualifiers
| SE. Missouri St. | Fairleigh Dickinson | UNC Asheville | Drake |
| Kennesaw St. | Louisiana | Furman | Northern Kentucky |
| College of Charleston | Gonzaga | Oral Roberts | A&M-Corpus Christi |
| Colgate | Montana St. | ||
Looking for an at Large Bid – These are the top NET teams that have not receive the automatic
| Houston | Kansas St. | Illinois | North Carolina |
| Alabama | Arkansas | Memphis | New Mexico |
| Tennessee | Kentucky | Miami (FL) | Providence |
| UCLA | Iowa St. | Nevada | Col. of Charleston |
| Purdue | Utah St. | Iowa | Michigan |
| UConn | Xavier | Northwestern | Texas Tech |
| Kansas | Texas A&M | North Texas | Penn St. |
| Saint Mary's (CA) | West Virginia | Rutgers | UAB |
| Gonzaga | Duke | NC State | Pittsburgh |
| Texas | Maryland | Oral Roberts | Florida |
| Arizona | Boise St. | Oklahoma St. | Sam Houston |
| Baylor | TCU | Liberty | Clemson |
| Marquette | Indiana | Southern California | Yale |
| Creighton | Virginia | Mississippi St. | Ohio St. |
| Fla. Atlantic | Michigan St. | Oregon | Iona |
| San Diego St. | Auburn | Missouri | Arizona St. |
I have never seen so much individual play as opposed to team play....I feared as much, as the
portal and NIL seem to emphasize the individual visa-avis the team....
Our team played as individuals this year....I have always felt it took more talent and desire
to win to play team ball....In our conference, Houston is the team that actually does, and it
is refreshing to watch.....
Our team is obviously going to be different next season....As our talent level increases, I
would expect our team play will also.....I'm looking forward to it! Our PG recruiting success
will be a large determinant in how much progress we can make in that area....
Moser and his agent are begging for an interview at ND. Bad fit for OU. Small school rock star coach who took the $$ and now is struggling. Happens on a regular basis.
It sure seems like if some of these coaches were not so greedy, they could have a long term successful career at a smaller school. When they get more money then they will ever need , they seem to get comfortable, look at Scott Frost for example
That’s unfortunate. Make them play a play in game. They’re an embarrassment.
Not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere but it's also pertinent to this thread. Bill Self will miss at least Kansas' quarterfinal game against WVa. Reports are saying he suffered a "vascular event" and was hospitalized. I have not seen anything that specified what that event was (stroke or heart attack).
Prayers up for Coach Self and a speedy recovery
Prayers up for Coach Self and a speedy recovery
When you win 30 games and don't lose a conference game you are never going to be in the play in game. 11 or 12 seed as they should be. Not sure how they are an embarrassment as seem to represent the city pretty well.
Yep. Knew they moved him into a non recruiting position. Hope they can get one more win.
It's usually a donation that pays for the band to travel. And b/c basketball only has so many slots in the pep band, my guess is they take 15-20 kids to play plus the a combo of spirit squads and they pack them onto one bus. Since our game is late, I would have the hotel reservation for 1 night but tell everyone we're headed back after we lose tonight
I've got the SMU/UCF game on. SMU likes to think they're a player in major college sports and desperately wants to be in a top of the food chain conference but the attendance at Dickie's today for their game shows how small potatoes they are. The game is pretty much a 25 minute drive from their campus and the joint is empty.
Number when I was helping Prof. set the traveling rosters was 30, minus the director. Seems that that hadn't changed when I did the band liaison thing when the NCAA's were last in Tulsa. I can tell you that we bused to St. Louis for the Valley Tournament games and when we played the first couple of rounds of the NCAA in OKC, but flew to Dallas. The Valley stuff was a donation, but the NCAA's were part of the tournament expenses that I believe were handled by the NCAA.
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