No, it shut down 3 or 4 years ago. I was funning bout periscope. But id you wanted to be serious about the issue, facebook would probably be the way to go. Still don't know if facebook would let you get away with charging for it, so the tourney throwers prolly wouldn't be interested. Profit is King, Draino Plano Tourney throwers!
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I don't need to charge for it, just make sure the parents for our kids can watch if they can't be at the actual field.
Anyone else staying here ?
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NO. That property is no longer available as they closed for the remainder of the 2020 calendar year. We got an update today. We're staying at the Westin...if we even go now. Just found out the NPL side is also going and will be wanting 2 of our better players. If that happens, I'm not going and I'm cancelling. Not subjecting my son to that type of beating. Then I am asking for his release.
We just got the alert. Not yet sure where we will be staying at this point. Hope it works out for you guys. Would hate to see you leave the club. I get it though. In the end you have to do what is best for your son.
We're officially out of the Plano tournament because we won't have enough players after the NPL side poached 2 of our kids so they could play. I've been told the NPL coach wants my son to go because he wants 2 GKs that weekend, but we'll see. We haven't heard from him and if I cancel my hotel room....we won't go even if invited late. And if that happens we'll ask for the release. It's BS
Sorry to hear that. There’s a lot of things which need to change in youth sports. Most of these clubs are about the club and not the kids. It’s a business and I don’t see that changing.
I was just accounting for the fact that the leagues wouldn't act on it, unless they made some money off of it.
Barry has made it clear he values the ECNL and NPL teams as they bring notice and prestige to the club. The OPC kids are the bill payers. I know about 1/3 of the kids playing at ECNL level cannot afford to be playing there. I know the OPC kids and their dues subsidize the ECNL program but they tell a lot of falsities to OPC kids to keep them there.
Congrats. There's no shame in losing to Solar. That's a good club. Also saw that the 02/03 TSC team won their bracket.
I made some waves this weekend. Put out a feeler on FB to see if anyone knew of an 06B team needing a GK. Within minutes my son's current coach was on the phone with me. Granted, I was being passive aggressive and my whole issue had nothing to do with his coaching ability or style but rather the TSC bait and switch high pressure commitments they try to get. It's ridiculous. Apparently several coaches within the club saw the post and called him in Edmond (his son plays on the '10 OPC team). Not that I am happy with the situation but I finally got some attention and was able to actually tell him these are the things that make kids and parents feel they've been duped. My son was invited to play with the NPL team in Plano before this happened and this has never really been about that because the 16 kids who signed would have made for an excellent team this Fall.
We're playing in the NEOFC Kickoff this weekend at Mohawk. I fully expect to get our a$$es kicked by the NEOFC Gray team, Blitz East Green, and BA Rec+ Galaxy team. I am going to tally my son's saves this weekend. I'm setting the over/under at 40 while also giving up 4 goals a game. That's how bad the back line is going to be and now not having that center MF who can hold the ball up. There have been a number of games in the past year that my son's team has lost 2-1, 3-2 and such while being way over matched because he has stood on his head and limited damage. There's only so much a GK can do.
We're playing in the NEOFC tourney as well. I was just told the top Energy 2010 girls team will be playing as well as the Cosmos. Should be a great gold bracket. Looking forward to a local tourney. Kits do look great. Sort of funny we have to wear our training shirts in warmups but I suppose it's all about the $$$
Hope to see you out there this weekend
Those are not training tops. Those are specifically pre-game tops that all the kids are supposed to wear pre-game because Tedford paid handsomely for it. The training tops for practice are actual adidas training gear and I think Hideaway sponsors those. I do know TSC was able to increase its available scholarships to kids by 100% this year based on the multiple extra sponsors. I had no idea Osage is sponsoring the jersey backs. I bet some parents blow a gasket that a kid's team is being sponsored by a casino.
Interesting that Osage was sponsoring. Somebody high up in the Casino administration has a kid or two playing in the league?
I don't know. I am thinking they have a relationship with Barry Williams between his Roughnecks and Fortuna (now Tulsa SC) affiliations. I wasn't aware there was a back of the jersey sponsor. I knew Kia, Hideaway, and Tedford all had given sponsorships as well as Marriott.
I know the whoever pays the most is going to get the largest billing wherever it may be but to me the "Kia" logo does not carry the same clout as having "Lexus of Tulsa" across your jersey.
BTW, rumor is Barry's in a little bit of a legal bind with a delinquent tax issue on his med supply company. I've also heard from my son's coach who is also the boy's OPC director for the club that Barry handed the day to day stuff over to Adam when he was brought on as Exec. Director. Adam seems like a knowledgeable guy about the business of soccer as well as the game itself. I ran into him at In the Raw in BA last week picking up my wife's birthday dinner. We talked for a few minutes...he was aware of the situation on my son's team and was getting ready to address it with the coaches.
If you haven't noticed, a majority of TSC's practices have moved to Titan South. My understanding is TSC is going to bring in portable lights. They'll save money by doing that over practicing at Titan Main. There's still a few sessions at Titan main but mostly everything is moving to south. I keep hearing about "changing the old culture" at TSC but I'll believe it when I see it. Still too many coaches influenced by parents who have $. I still laugh when TSC touts themselves as a "Player's First" club.
Yes. My daughter plays for 2010 TSC Gold girls. They will have their hands full this weekend with the top Energy team out of OKC. They are legit. Going to find out who is the best 2010 girls team in the state.
Tough to determine that this early. My son's team the year he played for Donovan Rickett's would not have frightened anyone in August but by the time State Cup came around they had developed a reputation for being extremely stingy. Only 1 time after September of that year did they give up more than 2 goals. In State Cup they gave up 2 goals combined in 3 games and both of those came on PKs (one was a really questionable call). If coaches are teaching the game right the improvement will come naturally. Almost any team these days can throw the bigger faster kid up top and play every ball over the top to him. Those same teams also end up finding out that once a defense takes that kid away, and then start to high press you, it's a long day in the back because they have no idea how to possess and build out of the back. You want to know which GKs you can't mess with? High press the 2 CBs and not allow the GK to make those simple outlet passes in the box on goal kicks. Position 2 forwards at the top corner of the box and bring your 10 into the middle about 10 yards about the semi-circle. Take away the 2nd pass to the outside backs on those and you will instantly find out about whether or not you're dealing with a keeper who can distribute properly as well as if you can put a team on their heels by pressuring the CB. (I digress).
Teams that learn how to play the right way will first find their shape defensively and how to play out of the back and then figure out how to put people on their heels and attack. Want to know why American soccer lags behind Mexico? Look at the inability to play out of the back against high pressure. Tina is a fantastic coach. And I know what the girls are taught by Donnie before they get to Tina. They will be fine in the long run.
My daughter is on the top Cosmos team. We've played both TSC and NOKC (now OEFC the top ones were already together at NOKC) several times and I think that will be a fun game to watch. I plan on videoing our games so I'll be one sitting behind the camera on top of the pole.
Perfect. I’ll come say hi. Should be a great weekend of soccer in the 2010 girls bracket. Three of the state’s top teams and a very good team in NEOFC.
I was only giving my 2010 girls thoughts as of today. The top tier is fairly clear imo (Energy, TSC, Blitz, Cosmos). Maybe TU 98 can throw another team or two in that mix. Agree that the rankings can change significantly as we go to 11v11 and competitive.
Those are the top clubs in the state too and it's not even close. It will be interesting to see the Energy and Blitz dynamic moving forward since they've been off on their own for 3-4 years.
My son's team had a scrimmage against a new Sheffield '06 team that is being moved from Rec+ at Broken Arrow to the competitive Sheffield program. This team was GIANT. GIANT. GIANT. I remember a few of the players from our Rec days. We sort of stomped them. 5-2. And there was a clear difference in the style of play and the level of coaching. We played 3 20 min segments w/ a ref. I'd say the first 15 minutes my son's team possessed the ball about 80% but the other team had the 2 best chances. My son was quick off the line and forced one of them to shoot wide...the other was, as the coach would call it an "ambitious thought". TSC side had some really nice combo play to work the ball up. Sheffield more direct with the long over the top stuff. I'm feeling a bit better about going into this weekend knowing this type of team effort is in them. There were mistakes and coach really did a good job of getting their attention and getting them to understand. One of the goals against was a mistake from one of the CBs where he ran onto a long ball up the side and instead of just touching out of bounds so the defense could regroup, tried to turn inside and play his way out...lost the ball and 2 touches later it's in the back of the goal. Coach took a few moments to point out that he needs to understand the worst consequences of any decision he makes and if he plays it out, the worst thing is we concede a throw-in. Turning inside with no support...He's been really good with things like that. The player with the most room for improvement scored a goal simply because he made the right run at the right time and got on the end of a nice cross. Fastest player on the team scored a great goal from the top of the box. Consistent shooting has been an issue for him in the past so hopefully that boosts his confidence.
The next thing is getting the defenders to understand their relationship to each other on the field....it's sort of a big deal. Better teams will be able to take advantage of some of the space issues as well as the natural instinct for some of these kids to chase the ball down. Leaves wide wide space in the box on occasion. Coach wants them to not be so flat and square in the back, especially when they have the ball, 2 defenders should always be dropping a little behind the ball to give the player with the ball an option. Flat back line and bad flat passes between them lead to too many 1 v 1's with the GK.
No we played in Beat the Heat this last weekend. We tied Sporting 06 which was basically the Norman ECNL team last year. They all went over. Then we beat the OEFC 3rd team 3-1 and lost 1-0 to the OEFC 2nd team 1-0 even though we probably outshot them 12-2. Just couldn't get any in the goal. Sporting ended up beating OEFC 2nd team 2-0 in the final. We played well overall. Was a good tournament for us.
I think OEFC and TSC may be a little above us. We haven't played Blitz yet. We've played OEFC close several times but haven't ever beaten them and we beat TSC a couple years ago but they've beaten us the last 3 times or so. Twice by 1 goal and they beat us 3-1 the last time. We've added a good keeper (the players use to take turns) and 2 good field players from that MWC barca team in the last few months so we're probably a little better but I know OEFC has also added girls and it sounds like TSC has as well. Norman isn't very good. The OEFC 3rd team beat them 7-1 this weekend. Those 4 teams are definitely the top 2010 teams in the state. Good luck to you guys!
You mention that and I see the picture of the keeper and how a GK coach is wondering why she is punting the ball wrong. Early on GKs who train with actual GK coaches are taught to hold the ball in their off hand, so right footed GKs *should* hold the ball in their left hand and left footed should hold it in their right hand. Since most GKs are now being taught to hit that low line drive volley from about waist height to control spin and avoid the high bounces making it easier for Fwds to bring the ball down, you really need to hold the ball in the off hand. You can't really hit that driving volley punt out of the same hand. Physics works against you.My kid (and her team) is on the cover of Tulsa SC Times this month btw
BTW, when kids first learn that waist high volley, it's pretty hilarious as it is a pretty awkward and not natural motion. My son's working on it now. He used it in the scrimmage the other day to some success.
Also, on the cover...no one seems to know for sure what the actual uniform combos are supposed to be. We were told white jersey/blue shorts/white socks, ROADs were red jerseys, red shorts, blue socks...but I keep seeing lots of different combos. Even the keepers had some weird combos and theirs are pretty straightforward.
You’re definitely correct on the home jerseys. We originally had blue tops red shorts for the championship game (other team didn’t bring a road jersey) but changed to blue shorts for some reason. We should get more of an idea this weekend.
Sorry, its not a red road jersey but the blue. Blue/Red/Blue makes more sense. Doesn't much matter to me...my kid will be wearing charcoal or BRIGHT FUSCIA.
Our games are at 10:15 (field 17) and 3 (field 14) on Saturday if you are around. We play 2 teams we are (seemingly) fairly even matched with. One we've already scrimmaged this season to within a goal with some clear deficits that have been addressed, one of which is endurance. As we've gone along things have gotten better and coach has been working on defensive shape a lot. They scrimmage the NPL side again last night without my son between the posts (he was presenting his Eagle project proposal). My understanding is the first segment was a draw with a few chances for our boys. The 2nd, when subs and seeing where players fit started to be substituted, saw a drop off. It's fine really. Just shows me that the 2 sides aren't all that far from one another...we really need to find that one finisher. I think as Gibson works with the group, it will get a lot tighter defensively. Good luck this weekend
Did they repost the schedules for the tournament? They were taken down due to coaching conflicts (our coach was supposed to coach 3 games at 8:30 Sunday morning).
Right now it's a cluster because US Club is trying to all of a sudden certify players for tournaments this weekend across the country...so slammed it shut their servers down. We're having trouble getting official rosters and player cards generated because of this. TSC waits until an entire team is formed and registered before they submit them for certification. This seems to be inefficient and a problem.
We had that problem before we went to Dallas for Solar Cup. Not sure if our player cards were ever fixed, but it was good enough for us to play.
Whoever issues the cards doesn't realize how easily they can be doctored. They're just Adobe docs. Last year our registrar didn't bother using the updated head shots I sent and just went and created cards using pics of kids who were 8 years old. Since it was an Adobe doc I simply went and swapped the photos out with the updated head shots. While I simply did that to accurately represent the kids on the team...I also realized that there are clubs (mmm hmm WSA) where things aren't so on the up and up with the registration and documentation of players.
Schedule is back up for the NEOFC tournament.....hoping they made a mistake. Our '11 girls team is playing in the boys bracket for better competition and they show one of our games to be against an '09 boys team.
So how'd everyone do this weekend? Our boys went 1-0-2. Won the 1st game 2-0 in a really good effort against a team that handled us easily in a scrimmage about a month ago. Score probably should have been about 5-0 as we missed several open nets and opportunities. Only serious test against my son was a PK the kid yanked well wide. TBH, my son guessed right and got a good push and I think he had everything but a perfect shot covered. 2nd game, after lunch was a grinder for both side. Kids played well for the first 20 minutes and then you could see that lunch and the heat hit them. Energy level and work rate dropped significantly. But the defense held pretty well. My son wasn't ever really tested as most shots were well outside the area and straight at him. He did come off his line once and made a really nice intervention to scoop the ball before the attacker got there. My son was rewarded by getting plowed over and road rash around his eye. The only goal came with about 2 minutes left off a free kick. My son read it was a cross and started to come to either catch or punch it when it took a flick off of one of his defenders' heads which popped it high and with a ton of top spin. Pretty much a fluky goal. Minute later one of our players makes a great run, gets into the box takes a touch forward and gets taken down from behind. Ball rolls out and the ref awards a goal kick. No doubt in my mind it should have been a PK. Anyway, 1-0 loss, but because our bracket went 1-1 against everyone, my son's team won the group on goal differential. Finishing 2nd would have been better
We played the NEOFC Bartlesville team which is easily one of the two best teams at the OPC level in OK, the other begin the SLSC 06 Premier team. Boys got hammered on the scoreboard and on the field. That team is physical but also pretty dirty. Lots of swiped ankles behind the play when the ref is not looking. (Officiating in this tournament was pretty atrocious....2-3 offside calls missed because the AR was 3-4 yds behind the defensive line to make sure he could keep up with plays...well, that also keeps the play onside from that perspective). The NEOFC team is extremely good at moving and keeping the ball. Well trained to play the ball to feet, etc. My son made a few nice saves including a screamer headed to the top part of the goal that he made a nice tough save on to push over the bar....that drew a few "Nice saves keep" from the other team's parents. He also butchered a couple decisions when the game was out of hand. I think this team needs to get a little more mentally tough because you could see a lot of slouched shoulders after getting down. We've got a few weeks before this team plays another competitive game. My son will be headed to Plano with the NPL side. If the NPL keeper gives up as many goals as he did this weekend, my son might see more playing time than he anticipates (12 goals in 2 games).
He's also got Union HS tryouts today. I have no idea what to expect. Not one of the GKs he plays with or trains with goes to Union. If there are multiple GKs who show up, I have no idea where they play. Union is committed to 3 teams (FR, JV, and Varsity) but they've also had 4 in the past when they've had the player numbers to support it adding a 2nd FR team.
I saw the U11 girls bracket...talk about super competitive.
Our 2011 Girls team went 3-0 in the boys bracket to win the tournament. Beat the TSC 2nd team 6-1 (the boys didnt play well, we had 3 goals in the first 10 minutes), NEOFC 10-2, then beat the TSC team 3-2 in overtime in the finals.
It was good for our girls to play teams more athletic/faster than us The officiating left something to be desired, but the girls hard work paid off.
It was good for our girls to play teams more athletic/faster than us The officiating left something to be desired, but the girls hard work paid off.
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