2/28 games

ctt8410 · Feb 28, 2015

Pretty good start to the day. Wichita beats #10 Northern Iowa. Cinci beats Tulane and jumps back into the RPI top 50. OU and ECU wins also help.

Creighton @ Seton Hall just started on CBS Sports
OSU @ Texas Tech just started on ESPNNews

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

What is the deal with Cincinnati's RPI? Looks like 3 top 25 wins? 20-9 overall vs our 20-7 but approx 15 spots behind us? Yet projected in the tourney?

Are their bad losses just being overlooked other than RPI?

TU_BLA · Feb 28, 2015

Cincy is projected to be in b/c they have beaten SMOO twice and a couple of nice wins early on (San Diego St)
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bigzit · Feb 28, 2015

No way ucla or Stanford should be in. Ridiculous.

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

So again, what's the problem with their RPI then?

Barlass · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by TUBballJunkie:
So again, what's the problem with their RPI then?

Losses to ECU and Tulane can't be good for it.

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

I don't understand why a completely objective measure doesn't see it the same way.

ctt8410 · Feb 28, 2015

RPI sees Cinci as 20-9 and Tulsa as 20-6. That's 8 percentage points difference in winning percentage.

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

But with pretty massive SOS differences? They are in the 60s, Tulsa 120s.

ctt8410 · Feb 28, 2015

If Cinci had Tulsa's winning percentage (.769) against their current schedule, they'd be 26th in the RPI.

Edited to add: Tulsa's current SOS is 103. Cinci's current SOS is 69.
This post was edited on 2/28 1:55 PM by ctt8410

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

And since that is considered more indirectly, Cinci's opponents basically winning more games than Tulsa's opponents.

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

Where would we be if SEOSU counted?

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

Let's go ahead and wake up, Pokes.

ctt8410 · Feb 28, 2015

Depends on how you count them. If we consider SEOSU to be equivalent to the worst D1 team (Grambling), then TU's RPI would be 68 with a 20-7 record against a SOS of 129.

texcane1982 · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by TUBballJunkie:
Where would we be if SEOSU counted?

Impossible to quantify, DII schools would have to be included in the DI RPI, and not enough of them play DI opponents to rank objectively.

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I.I. · Feb 28, 2015

When Syracuse lost to a D-2 team a few years ago, the pundits said that was not important since it was even before Christmas and Syracuse is nothing like that now. Odd that the pundits want to make OUR early schedule the most important factor in the selection.

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by ctt8410:
Depends on how you count them. If we consider SEOSU to be equivalent to the worst D1 team (Grambling), then TU's RPI would be 68 with a 20-7 record against a SOS of 129.

Interesting. I'd think they would certainly be at least equivalent to a 200+ RPI loss.

So that is making a lot of the difference between human and computer. Makes sense!

ctt8410 · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by I.I.:
When Syracuse lost to a D-2 team a few years ago, the pundits said that was not important since it was even before Christmas and Syracuse is nothing like that now. Odd that the pundits want to make OUR early schedule the most important factor in the selection.

That was an exhibition game. We played the closed-door scrimmage and thus were required to make SEOSU an official game. Like I said, there's pretty much no precedent for this situation.

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by I.I.:

When Syracuse lost to a D-2 team a few years ago, the pundits said that was not important since it was even before Christmas and Syracuse is nothing like that now. Odd that the pundits want to make OUR early schedule the most important factor in the selection.

Did you happen to see this from the other day?

As we all knew, the name on the jersey matters.

http://newsok.com/article/5397173

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by ctt8410:
Like I said, there's pretty much no precedent for this situation.

Hmm, I don't think I realized this.

ctt8410 · Feb 28, 2015

OSU and Creighton both lose by a point. With 4 straight losses and a 7-9 conference record, OSU is starting to look kinda bubbly.

bigzit · Feb 28, 2015

Just gotta win. There are 20 teams right now that can't afford to stumble. Tulsa is 1 of several.

My eyes are on Texas, UCLA and Stanford. Pray to the Lord they all keep losing.

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

Pray harder.

Go KU.

TU_BLA · Feb 28, 2015

Go Penn St. Tied with Iowa with 6 minutes left. Iowa one of those bubble teams that is riding the coat tails of Wisconsin and the B1G because they're not very good but they won a lot of non-con games. I hate that conferences like the B1G get lots of credit for its middle being mediocre when only Wisconsin and MD are really any good.
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TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

Everyone get your juju to espn2.

BYU is tied with Gonzaga at the half.

Gooooooo Zags!

Tu Geo · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by TU_BLA:
Go Penn St. Tied with Iowa with 6 minutes left. Iowa one of those bubble teams that is riding the coat tails of Wisconsin and the B1G because they're not very good but they won a lot of non-con games. I hate that conferences like the B1G get lots of credit for its middle being mediocre when only Wisconsin and MD are really any good.
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Iowa, Purdue, Illinois are in a lot of brackets all are in the low 50's RPI.

GO TU!!!

TU_BLA · Feb 28, 2015

I'll buy Purdue because they are decent. Illinois is not good. Iowa is not good.

Tu Geo · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by TU_BLA:
I'll buy Purdue because they are decent. Illinois is not good. Iowa is not good.

Purdue is in because they are 11-4 and tied for third place in the B-10, and I'll give them credit for that, but for some reason Cincy and Temple were given at larges in the AAC when Tulsa was a full three and four games ahead in conference play.

Question: Are there any other major conferences( Top 10) in which an at large was given to a lower team in the conference over a team in that same conference that has a better record? I think Tulsa was unique in that sense.

Glad we are in for now.

GO TU!!!!

TU_BLA · Feb 28, 2015

Right now Gonzaga wetting themselves against BYU.

ctt8410 · Feb 28, 2015

It will never not be weird watching Eric McClellan play for Gonzaga.

TUBballJunkie · Feb 28, 2015

DAMNIT, GONZAGA.

Poor EMac on that FT he tried to miss.

Tu Geo · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by ctt8410:
It will never not be weird watching Eric McClellan play for Gonzaga.

Got to give it up to Wojcik

E Mac and Clarkson were pretty damn talented. If he could just get out of their way.

GO TU!!!!

Tulsafanzz · Feb 28, 2015

Originally posted by Tu Geo:

Originally posted by ctt8410:
It will never not be weird watching Eric McClellan play for Gonzaga.

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Got to give it up to Wojcik

E Mac and Clarkson were pretty damn talented. If he could just get out of their way.

GO TU!!!!

E Mac made a bad decision to leave here. His Vandy experience was bad & he gets very minimal game time @ Gonzaga. Hopefully his senior year will be better. From TU's perspective, we probably wouldn't have signed (one of) Shaq or Ray.
I would hate to not have both of those guys.

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