I do think it’s cool what they are doing with the childrens hospital , puts things in perspective

I have to put my phone on the charger. Back at halftime. I know your looking forward to it

Is the game over yet?

TU83 said:

We must’ve left our defense in Tulsa….

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We have a defense ?

We must’ve left our defense in Tulsa….

TD UAB

This has temple game vibes

We’ve got to hit the pervert every time he touches the ball or this game will be over before halftime.

loca2874 said:

He is only on your hot seat. Guarantee administration doesn’t make a move

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Ahh yes, our brilliant administration 😂

TULSARISING said:

And just like that , Kevin Wilson is back on the hot seat 😂

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He is only on your hot seat. Guarantee administration doesn’t make a move

And just like that , Kevin Wilson is back on the hot seat 😂

punt return TD. 14-0 the team without an FBS win.

We are effing terrible

And a punt return for a TD.... Defense and special teams just can't tackle today.

Update: Punt return ruled out of bounds. But UAB looks much faster than Tulsa today

And a 3 and out or do we get the reversal on review and go for it on 4th down?

TD uab

Well, the choice to deferr may have been a mistake... A TD is what, 6 plays?

4-0 all time vs Birmingham. Let’s go for 5.

From my living room, waiting for the big rain.

HURRICANE!!

astonmartin708 said:

I think aTufan’s response to my criticism of conservative’s relationship to education acts as evidence. When I say people need to stop being dismissive of knowledge and education, the first response was “not everyone needs to go to college… some people need to be AC repair men”

That attitude in itself is what I’m talking about. Assuming that just because your kid may not grow up to be an engineer or a doctor that they don’t need to respect and value knowledge means you are communicating the wrong thing to your child. What gets communicated to children when they hear that is that they have permission to goof off in class because in their parent’s opinion what they are being forced to learn isn’t valuable.

P.s. I wasn’t talking about curriculum issues that Oklahoma and several other states are falling into. That’s a separate discussion.

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I think Tulsa is likely similar to most areas. I have friends and family who teach at Bixby, Union, Owasso, Jenks, Glenpool, Sapulpa and two at risk TPS. Parents in the burbs are generally engaged and active in the educational process including extra curricular activities. Which tends to show it’s with high academic performance from their children.

The at risk TPS schools generally lack parental involvement. Far too many of those parents show a lack of concern when their kids perform poorly or fail to complete assignments. These kids were particularly hit hard with the Covid closures. Over half of students in my two friends classes completed zero or a very minimal amount of work. They lost almost a year.

Sapulpa and Glenpool are a mixture of the two as one might expect due to the diversity of those districts.

Maine up 7-0 on Joe exotic university 😂

drboobay said:

What is your evidence this is actually happening?

I agree there is much rhetoric to this end. Even efforts. Ryan Walters I would put largely in this category. But I think such efforts have had relatively little success.

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I think aTufan’s response to my criticism of conservative’s relationship to education acts as evidence. When I say people need to stop being dismissive of knowledge and education, the first response was “not everyone needs to go to college… some people need to be AC repair men”

That attitude in itself is what I’m talking about. Assuming that just because your kid may not grow up to be an engineer or a doctor that they don’t need to respect and value knowledge means you are communicating the wrong thing to your child. What gets communicated to children when they hear that sort of comment is that they have permission to goof off in class because in their parent’s opinion what they are being forced to learn isn’t valuable. That attitude can transform into a behavior where anything they find difficult or boring, they feel they should be allowed to ignore… and that bleeds into their adult life where they give up trying to master things at the slightest inconvenience, meaning they only care to consider information that’s surface level…. Which is how you get people like Trump feeding the bull crap and them eating it up.

I deal with this often as I sometimes have to craft trainings for entry level (i.e. Wrench turning) employees and we have to dumb down even simple concepts because they can’t pay attention long enough to grasp what we pay them to. And that problem extends across multiple states, Republican and Democrat.

P.s. I wasn’t talking about curriculum issues that Oklahoma and several other states are falling into. That’s a separate discussion.

drboobay said:

What is your evidence this is actually happening?

I agree there is much rhetoric to this end. Even efforts. Ryan Walters I would put largely in this category. But I think such efforts have had relatively little success.

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Haven’t seen any evidence of this with my high school student at Bixby. Same ole same ole as far as curriculum.

astonmartin708 said:

I never said anything about college. I said stop disparaging knowledge and belittling intelligence.

Stop justifying your kid being shiit-heel in class which ruins the education of others. Encourage them to learn and emphasize the value of becoming more adept at the tangential disciplines which will help them be better at their craft, even if they’re not interested in learning quantum physics or calculus.

Maybe learning the tangentials to managing inventories, supply chains, and communicating with subordinates and customers will help them own their own successful plumbing business someday. Or maybe they could learn about marketing and technology fundamentals to more effectively advertise their services and be more competitive in their regions.

Also, stop discouraging them from learning the important historical, civics, and technology / science concepts that society would benefit from them knowing. There’s no excuse for kids being allowed to disregard social studies classes.

The amount of American adults being lured into faux science or falsified / misconstrued historical narratives these days because of their ignorance and lack of comprehension of good research practices is sickening. If these people are going to vote they need to be able to do so more intelligently than they have been to date.

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What is your evidence this is actually happening?

I agree there is much rhetoric to this end. Even efforts. Ryan Walters I would put largely in this category. But I think such efforts have had relatively little success.