TU Sepp said:

Texas has around 570,000 alumni, so coming up with an extra $40M plus NIL money is not a big stretch for them.

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Tulsafanzz said:

SMU is also going to have stupid ridiculous travel as a member of the ACC.

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TU Sepp said:

The Univ of Texas has an annual athletic budget of $187M. The budget for football is $41.8M, however the program creates $146.8 million in football revenue.

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chito_and_leon said:

Honestly I feel like the "student" part of "student athlete" is just marketing at this point, at least at the top levels. It's like having the stripper dress up as a French maid. It's better when the act plays to a fantasy.

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TU1NNJ said:

For several months I have thought about the academic component to what is happening now in D1 sports. I realize you are discussing making a multi-year scholarship contingent on maintaining academic standards and I agree that is great step.

University Presidents and faculty love to talk about academic integrity as a key pillar of the institution. In the last 20-30 years for many athletes this piece has gone out the window. Are athletes really getting an education or is it just a facade to maintain minimal eligibility while they can compete? Recent changes such as NIL and unlimited transfers have worsened the problem. Presidents needed to stand up to conference administrators and TV executives. There is no way the student academic benefit is served by players transferring multiple times and chasing NIL dollars or conferences being flung across the nation requiring players to be out school more frequently in the name of conference revenue to be divided among member schools. Coaches are starting to become concerned about the transfer portal impact on their ability to be successful, although self serving, it is a potential support group that can lead to change. When will the university Presidents and Boards finally step up and challenge how the system that has evolved is really anywhere close to a university ultimate mission of educating students for lifetime success.

Rant over.

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darrenj said:

I think it would open up a lot of the revenue that the NCAA keeps for themselves right now. Maybe not stated but i think it would end up in court for numerous things. That is the one place the NCAA doesn't want to be but yes the starting point is minimum wage for each athlete and overtime would apply. The additional cost would be overwhelming for most schools.

The NIL doesn't affect the school or the NCAA right now. All comes out of boosters pockets whether a little or a lot. Coaches and ADs are having to ask for quite a bit more from those guys each year.

I'll give you an example. Texas goal for just the football team is $10 to $15 million per year. They struggle to get to that figure as the older donors who have been the big spenders in years past do not like the NIL at all.

Kids are making outrageous demands as some football players are asking for $1 million for just one season. Upfront. Some of them are getting it.

Basketball not near as much. I believe Max Abmas got around $75K for the one season at TX. Maybe a car to drive as well.

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chito_and_leon said:

I don't think this would change their right to TV $$. They'd be entitled to minimum wage, etc. but they wouldn't have any right to more than that, right? I think it's the other things that would be a problem, especially workers comp.

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Barlass said:

I think I still have a shot!

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drboobay said:

Academic conditions too.

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drboobay said:

Academic conditions too.

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TU_BLA said:

And this is because the NILs and schools haven't started playing the game to give them some leverage in this insanity. Schools in so called lesser conferences need to even the game up somehow and this is the way to do it. The players are certainly signing some sort of NIL contract/agreement, so now it's time to add some teeth to it. Here's the thing, most of these NIL deals are just booster payments directly to the player with no services being provided. You've had a few sign lucrative NIL deals where the player actually had their names/likenesses used in ads for the companies paying them. Caleb Williams and Wendy's, Caitlin Clark and State Farm. That was more the whole point...that and EA being able to bring back their NCAA games, schools being able to market jerseys with actual player numbers on them, players being able to go to card and memorabilia shows and signing things for $$ and appearance fees. Ed O'Bannon started this, Jeremy Bloom quit playing college football because the NCAA said he couldn't take money for being one of the best trick and stunt skiers in history despite the fact that it had no bearing on his status as an amateur football player (do you all remember how freaking fast this kid was?)

The NIL thing went way the opposite direction and combined with the stupidity that is the transfer portal, you've basically got college free agency by the day, not even the year. And as long as the courts are going to treat college athletes like their pro athletes, then it's time for the collectives and schools to treat them as such to with employment agreements/contracts they must sign. Screw LOIs anymore, they haven't meant anything in years. They wanted the freedom to move like coaches do, well then they can sign on for buyout clauses as well. A place like TU should include the cost of the NIL, the cost of training, gear, tuition, etc. plus remaining lost years as part of the buyout. If Texas wants PJ that bad, let them pony up $300k as the buyout.

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darrenj said:

The players would love to be considered employees of the school and the NCAA. They would then have access to all the TV $$ and everything. There is no way the NCAA will ever do that.

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TU_BLA said:

I can agree with this. I think the year to year renewal on a scholarship sucks

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lawpoke87 said:

I have mixed feelings here. Having a hard time siding with universities who have for decades refused to provide their student athletes with four year scholarships. Instead offering one years ships which are subject to cancellation at the whim of the school. Would like to see something in the middle. If you’re going to tie NIL deals with the universities (they are currently separate) then the universities need to offer guaranteed four year scholarships to all student athletes regardless of NIL status imo. There can be opt out clauses for the university based on being convicted of a crime, etc.

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darrenj said:

The players would love to be considered employees of the school and the NCAA. They would then have access to all the TV $$ and everything. There is no way the NCAA will ever do that.

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TU_BLA said:

And this is because the NILs and schools haven't started playing the game to give them some leverage in this insanity. Schools in so called lesser conferences need to even the game up somehow and this is the way to do it. The players are certainly signing some sort of NIL contract/agreement, so now it's time to add some teeth to it. Here's the thing, most of these NIL deals are just booster payments directly to the player with no services being provided. You've had a few sign lucrative NIL deals where the player actually had their names/likenesses used in ads for the companies paying them. Caleb Williams and Wendy's, Caitlin Clark and State Farm. That was more the whole point...that and EA being able to bring back their NCAA games, schools being able to market jerseys with actual player numbers on them, players being able to go to card and memorabilia shows and signing things for $$ and appearance fees. Ed O'Bannon started this, Jeremy Bloom quit playing college football because the NCAA said he couldn't take money for being one of the best trick and stunt skiers in history despite the fact that it had no bearing on his status as an amateur football player (do you all remember how freaking fast this kid was?)

The NIL thing went way the opposite direction and combined with the stupidity that is the transfer portal, you've basically got college free agency by the day, not even the year. And as long as the courts are going to treat college athletes like their pro athletes, then it's time for the collectives and schools to treat them as such to with employment agreements/contracts they must sign. Screw LOIs anymore, they haven't meant anything in years. They wanted the freedom to move like coaches do, well then they can sign on for buyout clauses as well. A place like TU should include the cost of the NIL, the cost of training, gear, tuition, etc. plus remaining lost years as part of the buyout. If Texas wants PJ that bad, let them pony up $300k as the buyout.

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TULSARISING said:

What a loving and merciful God we have

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