Just for reference, my daughter’s spring schedule other than league games is:
Dallas ECNL showcase
Dallas Cup
Texas Shootout - Roundrock
Nationals
Not near as busy as the fall.
Celtic complex is nice
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Dallas ECNL showcase
Dallas Cup
Texas Shootout - Roundrock
Nationals
Not near as busy as the fall.
Celtic complex is nice
We are going to the Dallas showcase, Phoenix showcase (which I wish we weren’t to be honest), and the Celtic cup. Then MAYBE whatever TSC tourney happens.
Looking forward to visiting this complex again. It’s been a bit.
I refer to ECNL showcases for players U15 and under as expensive friendlies. All girls U15 and younger are playing at Moneygram where the older age groups are at Toyota. There will be zero college scouts at Moneygram.
Yeah. That’s really what they are. Very few, if any, girls are likely getting scouted at u13 id imagine.
Only Scouts would be from US Soccer and maybe a few soccer publications which publish rankings
But that's not gonna stop the tournament organizers and sponsors from selling it and having a separate page link that profiles all of the college coaches that will be in attendance. My son stopped caring about the college coaches in attendance because at MOST tournaments and showcases, there aren't many high level teams represented. ECNL might be different but most of the coaches are only looking at U16 and above. Besides, my son had specific goals for college and a major so he started reaching out to those schools specifically and we got wise to attending camps where those programs were represented. That worked way better and resulted in way more contacts and communications than just leaving it to chance and having some small liberal arts college in Timbuktu reaching out.
Lawpoke, I know your daughter is closer to the recruiting cycle and I know she's made the initial contacts with some schools. The ID camps those schools have are key and a good way to introduce herself. My son sent emails about a week before camps and said he looked forward to meeting them and then always on the first day he sought the coaches out, introduced himself and reminded them he reached out via email. Unfortunately, we had no clue and started this too late and should have started it coming out of his sophomore year into junior year.
Honk, since your daughter is younger, start compiling some video clips into a montage. TSC should be able to help since they record most of the ECNL games with VEO. I don't think you need to start doing it just yet...maybe when she gets to FR year and as she starts growing into her body. I know at Union, every athlete there had a free HUDL account so we could drop clips on there and create a link to send to coaches.
Speaking of…..my daughter got an invite from Texas Tech and will be visiting this weekend. You’re 100% correct about starting early as most of the D1 schools will fill a majority of their spots by the start of the player’s junior year.
The roster reductions will make things very interesting. I was talking to our babysitter, who plays at a Division One school, and she said fewer people will enter the portal right now because they are waiting to see how things will shake out with the roster reduction.
The increased money will be interesting.
What about this Title IX ruling? That could change things with NIL, too.
Lots of unknowns right now. I’m ok with that roster reductions as long as the girls get more money on a per player basis. Never saw the need for more than 28 on a college roster.
Well, I am sorry you find me to be such a meanypants.
There is some apparent Oklahoma never-played soccer ignorance protruding through intermixed with some " I have been a parent to a daughter who has played for seven years.
I have thanked Blah's and Lawpoke's for their posts. I have even basically said blah. I am sorry if I sound like I am being d**k. Some of it is just having fun, and some could be missed because it is just the tone of the interwebs.
I appreciate everyone's perspective, so I continue to follow and post on this thread. This is a journey, and no one's adventure is the same. This page is now thousands of posts long and 48 pages deep. My wife and I are still in disbelief. We started this path so early vs. when it started for us, but that is how it is.
There are some different perspectives. Some come strongly worded because I think they are willfully ignorant or just dead wrong. I have some pretty deep relationships inside this community in this market and others and across referees, coaches, and administrators.
I realize you have thanked TUBla & Lawpoke, despite some occasional hard criticism. That's great that you did the hard criticism, and also great that you eventually thanked them despite your hard criticism. I wasn't commenting on your dealings with them, only with HonkvnotHonky. They have essentially been on this board for a long time, and won't be affected by hard criticism on the Other Sports board.
This is not as obvious with HonkvnotHonky. He hasn't been here as long, and probably doesn't have the ties to TU keeping him here. It just seemed unnecessarily rude to act that way with him so early on, after him excitedly joining this board. He has not really even had any hardcore, in your face conflict/debate with you yet. That would be when I would think you would pull that type of language out.
The abrasiveness was a bit more organic with Lawpoke & TUBla, and it really wasn't with this poster. Just seemed a little premature to be so abrasive with him. I wouldn't have even thought to make that comment if the argument was with TUBla or Lawpoke. Not even sure if Honkv has been here long enough to see those comments thanking Lawpoke & TUBla. He only joined the board about a month ago.
We are doing the Dallas showcase, Phoenix showcase and The playoffs in San Diego.
I don’t mind the drive to Dallas. Phoenix just seems to offer very little value to us right now.
I’m really not sure why he’s taken that tone. It’s not like we’re debating whether Trump is the second coming of Hitler. I expect the attitude on Crossfire. Not when discussing kids soccer. Maybe TulsaRulz can enlighten us. We’re generally a fairly laid back crew when it comes to youth sports around here with the exception of an occasional JM comment or accusation that I’m part of his club
From my experience, soccer is a sport that exudes a lot of passion and perspectives, and in America, there is an immense amount of ignorance. Even now, many of the foreigners here are full of dook. If you had an accent, especially British, you were given a lot of credence to coach because you came for a soccer play and played the game at some level. In reality, lots of these foreigners are really, really full of dook and a lot of Americans are full of dook too. If you are parent that doesn't come from a background, it makes it hard to understand.
Now, America is more complicated. In the past, there was just competition and rec within each club, including places like Solar and Texans, having ONE team in each age group. That was roughly 18 teams or so. Now, Solar has over 215 youth teams! There are a lot of tiers, and those tiers are still shaking out. The leagues are constantly evolving.
The MLS teams want to cordon off their talent even more and don't want to be involved with the likes of Solar or, Texans or Real Colorado.
ECNL does their thing. Think what will happen if the NWSL tries to get academies going. That could mean bye-bye, ECNL girls.
USL-A is trying to do something. NPL, GA, and a host of other abbreviations are trying to make names for themselves. Inevitably, someone will embezzle money, sleep with someone else's wife or retire, and the league will fold.
Meanwhile, US Soccer is just shrugging its shoulders and saying do whatever you want. We will come to find players.
In the background, you have parents who are sick of travel, the expenses, and the inability to play locally. It sucks. You don't have that issue in places like southern California or Texas. But in Colorado, Nebraska, and Oklahoma. It is a big, big issue. When your team sucks, it isn't fun.
Now, in the middle of this, they are going to an age change to shake up some things.
I guess this place helps you coordinate your thoughts and perspective.
But listen to someone like Lawpoke, whose daughter is fantastic and plays at someplace super cutthroat like FC Dallas. If you don't perform, they will axe your ass with no qualms. Five others are willing to jump right in and take your spot. In Tulsa, you have a much different dynamic. If you haven't lived in a big market or been around those clubs, you don't understand that dynamic as much. Tulsa they are just trying to hold a team together right now. It is sad. It is even more pathetic now that players are jumping markets because they don't believe our local team is up to the task.
I guess this place helps you coordinate your thoughts and perspective. I like listening to Bla's manager's perspective and interaction with the clubs. He and Lawpoke have interesting perspectives on dealing with colleges. That stuff is going to change.
Whether you think my responses are tart, It is also interesting to hear how a division team is dealing with being down in the dirt (honkv). It is also interesting listening to what they believe needs leadership change.
The landscape is never settled in this country, especially Tulsa.
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It’s a lot, but so are the league games in Colorado and south Texas.
My biggest issue with the showcases is that you’re matched up with teams that are “comparable” based on your conference record. The problem with that is you are playing in one of if not the toughest conferences in the country and if you’re middle of the pack in Texas you play middle of the pack teams in lesser conferences. Our showcase games last year were never super competitive, but on the flip side, if you are competitive in the Texas conference you will compete against some of the top teams in the country in the showcases.
My kid has played a lot of futsal but it’s not her favorite either due to the lack of physicality. First time she played was in KC with Tina. No one told her about the five fouls per half and then PKs. She had three fouls in the first 90 seconds. Thought Tina was going to stroke out.We did not. My daughter doesn’t like Futsal that much
My daughter will play if that’s what the team is doing during the winter and she’ll play to win. But if it’s “extra”, she won’t do it. She prefers the field.
I just think with Honkv and Soccer 7583 this post could be on the verge. It could be expanding into a Board within a Post right now. It would be a shame if not being gentle with posters for the first 2 or 3 months were to stop that from happening. By then they get acclimated to the board's etiquette and non-etiquette. You never know when two or three other parents have heard about this board via the grapevine, are keeping up with it as lurkers, and thinking about posting eventually.I’m really not sure why he’s taken that tone. It’s not like we’re debating whether Trump is the second coming of Hitler. I expect the attitude on Crossfire. Not when discussing kids soccer. Maybe TulsaRulz can enlighten us. We’re generally a fairly laid back crew when it comes to youth sports around here with the exception of an occasional JM comment or accusation that I’m part of his club
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Is your team ECNL? If it's true ECNL (and this might apply to RL too), your club might be obligated to have its teams show up to a certain number of national showcase events and selected these 2. This was even true in EA...we had to go to 2 of the 4 EA national showcases. Our club chose to go to Tucson and Bradenton. And yeah, I would agree, it might seem over the top for U13s seeing as how they cannot be recruited within the NCAA guidelines right now.
As for your question regarding the rulings. A court has said that the NCAA cannot arbitrarily limit scholarships in sports essentially eliminating walk-ons. If an athlete is on an NCAA team they are eligible for a full scholarship. In response, the NCAA enacted roster limits for sports, I think men's soccer is 26, women is 28. Football is 105. But every one of those players is eligible for a full scholarship now vs men's soccer having 9.9 scholarships to spread out among a roster of 30 (and sometimes greater). This doesn't mean any individual school will fully fund its program and put every one of the 26 players on a full cost of attendance scholarship. Schools can essentially do whatever they want. The big P4s are gonna fully fund them. I don't know what TU will do...hopefully at least cover full tuition for athletes, but even at this I think is going to put TU behind the 8-ball remaining competitive if they take this approach.
The other recent ruling was now that NIL is squarely on the shoulders of the universities to distribute to their athletes and not being pushed to some back alley clandestine fund, the DoE said that Title IX applies to NIL as well. I take this to mean that every dollar a university spends on NIL for male athletes has to be matched by NIL funds distributed to female athletes. As an example, we've heard, unofficially, that TU football as $3M NIL to work with for the upcoming season...this ruling essentially means TU would need to find at least $3M to spend on NIL for female athletes.
Granted, I don't know how much longer the DoE is going to be around or if they're even going to enforce anything having to do with Title IX anymore, at least while Trump is POTUS.
My son disliked futsal a lot. Especially being a keeper...the floor is hard and after the initial play out from the keeper, you can't play it back to the keeper unless a change of possession occurred somewhere in there. And the ball sucks and is hard to catch for keepers. And the floor is hard so diving sucked.
Yeah, we're NL. I'm sure it is due to an agreement or something. I knew that everything was more expensive, I'm gonna pay the cost, I just wish I didn't have to lol
Thanks for the info on the NIL / title IX.
I’m not
I think it may be conference related but to what extent I don’t know. If you look at Mid Atlantic conference they play home and away against every team in the conference and don’t attend any showcases.
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That’s awesome!Club Soccer Team Rankings
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Very nice Huge jump up Tulsa girls seem to be helping. Looks like we play two top 10 sides in Dallas based on those rankings. I’ve always used the rankings on the App w the soccer ball. They aren’t that far offClub Soccer Team Rankings
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We will play #7, #13, and a team out of Georgia in Dallas. I use that soccer app to gauge teams and you’re right they aren’t too far from one another.
Good luck. Go kick butt.
Very cool. I would love to see the Tulsa girls back in Tulsa if you could get the right coaches. I hope that changes sooner rather than later. With that kind of ranking, I imagine it makes it hard to want to do that.
As I said before, the OKC teams were extremely disliked back in the day. We hated Celtic (OFC hadn't been born, and they were the squad). They hated us. It was a good rivalry. Tulsa hated OKC in general. It feels like that hate isn't there as much anymore. It is crazy that people travel down the 'pike to train and play. But to each their own. It makes me sad you have to do that because the leadership sucks.
Very cool. I would love to see the Tulsa girls back in Tulsa if you could get the right coaches. I hope that changes sooner rather than later. With that kind of ranking, I imagine it makes it hard to want to do that.
As I said before, the OKC teams were extremely disliked back in the day. We hated Celtic (OFC hadn't been born, and they were the squad). They hated us. It was a good rivalry. Tulsa hated OKC in general. It feels like that hate isn't there as much anymore. It is crazy that people travel down the 'pike to train and play. But to each their own. It makes me sad you have to do that because the leadership sucks.
Appreciate that.
Before this past season we would have never thought about playing for Energy, but TSC was so dysfunctional we had to leave. The weekly drive for training isn’t terrible because we carpool with a couple of other families.
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