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Only in his nightmares.I think Pat Birt is still considered his legal guardian
He didn't like TU... Never heard the inside story but it must have started in Junior High somewhere. Coaches just have to lay a better groundwork for local players.
Wojcik wasn't around when Shake was coming out of HS. It was Manning and Haith by that point.A lousy DW and the idiocy that spewed from his lips probably didn't help much either....
Wojcik wasn't around when Shake was coming out of HS. It was Manning and Haith by that point.
He would have laid the early ground work when Shake was coming up through the youth leagues. Seems that those relationships have to be built very early and then grown. Maybe my timeline is off...Wojcik wasn't around when Shake was coming out of HS. It was Manning and Haith by that point.
I think Woj was fired when Shake was a Freshman in HS. His not coming to TU likely had more to do with his buddy Jalen Lowe getting "slighted" by Danny Manning / BB.He would have laid the early ground work when Shake was coming up through the youth leagues. Seems that those relationships have to be built very early and then grown. Maybe my timeline is off...
He would have laid the early ground work when Shake was coming up through the youth leagues. Seems that those relationships have to be built very early and then grown. Maybe my timeline is off...
His not coming to TU likely had more to do with his buddy Jalen Lowe getting "slighted" by Danny Manning / BB.
Do tell chum.That’s not the correct version of the story.
Jalen went to TU wanting to be a QB on the football team. The coaches wanted him to switch to another position and it pissed him off so he transferred, I think to a lower division, and talked bad about TU, at least that’s the version I got. It had nothing to do with the basketball coaches.Do tell chum.
Jalen went to TU wanting to be a QB on the football team. The coaches wanted him to switch to another position and it pissed him off so he transferred, I think to a lower division, and talked bad about TU, at least that’s the version I got. It had nothing to do with the basketball coaches.
If it's funny how legends grow over time, then set the story straight, and put a halt to legends over time.That’s not it either. It’s funny how these legends grow over time.
If it's funny how legends grow over time, then set the story straight, and put a halt to legends over time.
I remembered the story vaguely and would have gotten a few details incorrect. That's why I wanted you to retell the story for better accuracy. I appreciated the story being told and retold. That's how you stop the legend, by retelling the story as many times as necessary. Thanks.Did you hear about this surfer guy who pulled a knife on Mr. Hand this morning?
I’ve told the actual story here multiple times, and Money you even commented favorably the last time I recited it. But I’ll post it again, just for olde times sake.
As you know, Shake had a friend and former teammate who attended the University in 2013. This guy may have needed some help with his school work, so he was assigned a tutor who treated him like he was stupid.
He told Shake about his experience and Shake decided to end his recruiting relationship with TU. He told his HS teammates the story and I happened to have a player on the team. That’s how I know.
That’s it. Not as glamorous as some of the other versions, but at least no knives were involved.
Maybe if the Owasso kid (guessing it was Lowe) had listened to his tutor he would have stayed at a D1 program instead of washing out to NEODid you hear about this surfer guy who pulled a knife on Mr. Hand this morning?
I’ve told the actual story here multiple times, and Money you even commented favorably the last time I recited it. But I’ll post it again, just for olde times sake.
As you know, Shake had a friend and former teammate who attended the University in 2013. This guy may have needed some help with his school work, so he was assigned a tutor who treated him like he was stupid.
He told Shake about his experience and Shake decided to end his recruiting relationship with TU. He told his HS teammates the story and I happened to have a player on the team. That’s how I know.
That’s it. Not as glamorous as some of the other versions, but at least no knives were involved.
Maybe if the Owasso kid (guessing it was Lowe) had listened to his tutor he would have stayed at a D1 program instead of washing out to NEO
I wasn't saying that he washed out at NEO. Just that he washed out of TU. There were plenty of kids less athletically gifted than him that stuck around 4 seasons under BB / early on in Monty's tenure.The D1 stage may have been a little big for him, but I don’t think he necessarily washed out at Neo. From what I hear, he eventually moved on to an NAIA school and earned some sort of national player of the year awards. I read recently that he now plays for an indoor team in Arizona. I didn’t know indoor football was still a thing.
And that's the kid's version of the story. No one knows TU's side. Having known many individuals who worked in athletic academic support over the years, I find it hard to believe anyone employed there would call or imply that any of the student athletes they worked with were stupid. Now did the kid feel like he wasn't getting enough support or the type of support he felt he needed to remain academically eligible...probably. That's fair too. There's 2 sides of that story and the truth is probably somewhere in the middle.Did you hear about this surfer guy who pulled a knife on Mr. Hand this morning?
I’ve told the actual story here multiple times, and Money you even commented favorably the last time I recited it. But I’ll post it again, just for olde times sake.
As you know, Shake had a friend and former teammate who attended the University in 2013. This guy may have needed some help with his school work, so he was assigned a tutor who treated him like he was stupid.
He told Shake about his experience and Shake decided to end his recruiting relationship with TU. He told his HS teammates the story and I happened to have a player on the team. That’s how I know.
That’s it. Not as glamorous as some of the other versions, but at least no knives were involved.
I can hear the diet rite soda getting cracked open on this thread.
I figured you’d roll in at some point. I guess I’m going to have to hike up those jordache pants and set these youngsters straight.
Diet Rite- isn't that the stuff you can put in the bottom of your stainless steel pots and skillets to remove the scoring from them?I couldn’t resist
What people won't do for a cheating former NBA coach
Diet Rite- isn't that the stuff you can put in the bottom of your stainless steel pots and skillets to remove the scoring from them?
I would like to see discussions of Shake Shack go the way of he who shall not be named.Shake and Rotnei who ?
Who's Conley? And Phipps? is Phipps a type of pretzel chip made by Nabisco. If not it should be. Here's hoping BTW gets smoked in the HS playoffs.Conley too
TAB or GTFO!I can hear the diet rite soda getting cracked open on this thread.