Itās not often when you see protesters and counter protestors come together in mutual agreement 
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Both sides are incredibly dumb. Congratulations?Itās not often when you see protesters and counter protestors come together in mutual agreement
These are the same types of people that got hurt feelings about Bernie in 2016ā¦. Then proceeded to screw themselves and their agenda in the Supreme Court for the foreseeable future because they didnāt dig Hillary.
Clearly one side or the other doesnāt have a firm idea about what their alternatives are.
Iām sure this a minority of the group who feels this way but not sure what they think this will accomplish. Republicans are just as supportive, if not more so, of Israel. I guess they want Trump back in office?
www.mediaite.com
Major College Democrats Organization Warns Biden: Our āVotes Are Not to Be Taken for Grantedā
The College Democrats of America,"the official collegiate arm of the Democratic National Committee," has issued an ominous warning to Joe Biden.
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Much easier to deflect and make baseless accusations I assume? Againā¦.why do libs support a group which hates LGBTQ people, doesnāt believe in womenās rights or even basic civil rights over a minority group which is far more in line with them in social issues? Simple hate?
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The point isnāt that liberals support Muslims, itās that they refuse to hate them quite as much as conservative Christians feel they should. I donāt have any affinity for Islam, but I also donāt have a substantial enough reason to go out of my way to hate Muslims either.
And my claim was not any more baseless than yoursā¦. the KKK isnāt a notoriously progressive organization if you know what I mean.
They can hate on Joe Biden's position all they want. It's not any where near worth all the strife that 4 more years of Trump will bring. They are just flat stupid about what will be the consequences of their protests.Iām sure this a minority of the group who feels this way but not sure what they think this will accomplish. Republicans are just as supportive, if not more so, of Israel. I guess they want Trump back in office?
Major College Democrats Organization Warns Biden: Our āVotes Are Not to Be Taken for Grantedā
The College Democrats of America,"the official collegiate arm of the Democratic National Committee," has issued an ominous warning to Joe Biden.
Please read my post. That is not the point. The question is why do liberals support Muslims over Jews when they hate LGBTQ, womenās rights, as well as a whole host of social positions championed by the left? Hate probably isnāt even a strong enough word here.
No, the question is why do conservatives historically hate every single one of the groups you mentioned?
Muslims? Pretty sure they established that back in the Iran daysā¦. It continued unabated through desert storm and beyond.
Jews? Conservatives (regardless of party affiliation) were keeping them out of country clubs back in the 50ās. Aryans with swastika tats are still showing up at Trump rallies to this day and were at Jan 6th.
LGBT? I can, today, go find a plethora of conservative Christians that hate these people just as much as the Muslims, and if given the opportunity would persecute them in the same fundamentalist ways.
I donāt need to hate Muslims 4,000 miles away because they donāt share my valuesā¦. I have enough bigots right here in the good old USA that donāt share my values.
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Still havenāt addressed my question so letās do this one more time. Not sure how I can dumb it down anymore but here we go:
Againā¦.why do libs support a group which hates LGBTQ people, doesnāt believe in womenās rights or even basic civil rights over a minority group which is far more in line with them on social issues? Simple hate
Iām not answering your question because I think the premise is false and I call it into question. Liberals in general do not āsupportā the group that you are saying they do. They donāt support one ethnic group over another. They do empathize with victims and criticize groups that commit atrocities.
Itās a loaded question, similar to me (theoretically) asking āHave you stopped beating your wife?ā
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Gallup disagrees. Againā¦.why?
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- After a decade in which Democrats have shown increasing affinity toward the Palestinians, their sympathies in the Middle East now lie more with the Palestinians than the Israelis, 49% versus 38%.
Todayās attitudes reflect an 11-percentage-point increase over the past year in Democratsā sympathy with the Palestinians. At the same time, the percentages sympathizing more with the Israelis (38%) and those not favoring a side (13%) have dipped to new lows.
Sympathy does not equal support, lack of sympathy does not equal hatred.
No matter what someoneās view on gay marriage isā¦ (which Judaism isnāt particularly positive about either btw) I donāt think they should be blown up or shot.
I have a lack of sympathy for the Israeli government because their actions given their situation does not warrant sympathy.
If a murderer kills your wife is it judicial to kill his wife as well as his entire extended family? When you kill them, do they get to kill the rest of your extended family? Where does the bloodshed stop?
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Radicals who are now people of influence and have hollowed out the left's formerly prestigious institutions, continue to wear those institutions' dead carcasses to wield power and view everything through power dynamics. Their messaging is transmitted through the hard left ecosystem fairly efficiently. It doesn't matter that anti-colonialism is just picking an arbitrary point in time and saying "the second to last person to steal the land has a right to it." There is no good / bad side to this group outside of which set of winners they think needs to be taken down a peg at any particular moment.
are the schools where protester are shutting down classes and graduation ceremonies still hosting spring sports?
Surprised it took Israel this long. Hopefully if they didnāt find the office was aiding Hamas or Hezbulloh they will allow it to reopen.
...Interesting that a large group of Israelis, living a few hundred miles (or fewer) from both the fighting in Gaza, as well as Hamas' terrorist attacks, are now calling for a ceasefire.
www.euronews.com
"We hope the world hears us and knows that the people of Israel are not the government of Israel," said one protester Shulamit Ron. "We don't agree with the policy, we don't agree with the way they behave, and we want to have a different future."
Judaism is not a monolith.
Israelis rally to demand ceasefire and Netanyahu's resignation
"We hope the world hears us and knows that the people of Israel are not the government of Israel," said one protester.
www.euronews.com
"We hope the world hears us and knows that the people of Israel are not the government of Israel," said one protester Shulamit Ron. "We don't agree with the policy, we don't agree with the way they behave, and we want to have a different future."
Judaism is not a monolith.
It's the third time I believe. Egypt during an overthrow of their government, us/Iraq during our invasion of Iraq, now israel. Baharain & Saudia Arabia did it without any military actions going on.
...Interesting that a large group of Israelis, living a few hundred miles (or fewer) from both the fighting in Gaza, as well as Hamas' terrorist attacks, are now calling for a ceasefire.
Israelis rally to demand ceasefire and Netanyahu's resignation
"We hope the world hears us and knows that the people of Israel are not the government of Israel," said one protester.
"We hope the world hears us and knows that the people of Israel are not the government of Israel," said one protester Shulamit Ron. "We don't agree with the policy, we don't agree with the way they behave, and we want to have a different future."
Judaism is not a monolith.
Yeah every country has a profoundly naive element whose lack of fortitude, if it were to take hold in a majority, would threaten the survival of the country. They always provide solid propaganda for their enemies to use as is the case here.
Israel will not allow Hamas in Gaza during my lifetime. Hamas had to know this prior to its military action into Israel. I certainly did. They also had to know what Israelās response would be as it related to Gaza.
They have some regional defense pacts/obligations, particularly with Egypt, that could influence such decisions, but generally this is right on.
Does anyone here ever check in with Israeli press to see the wide range of views that Israelis hold about Netanyahu's policies? Here's an example of an editorial piece from Haaretz the oldest daily in the country. Haaretz is liberal, highly respected and its editorial page reflects views and voices that we don't see in the US.
Over 60% were conservative, and 11% liberal last election. I'm sure that this war has swayed some minds, but I doubt that many. I doubt those views are held by more than a 25% of the population. Every country has liberals and conservatives, even beloved China. It's just a matter of percentages.
If this thread has evidenced anything to me itās simply a confirmation of my perception that American conservatives are happy to be human rights ignoring hawks when itās convenient for them to be because the conflict aligns with their agenda and theyāre fighting a handful of terror cells mixed in with a bunch of half starved women and kids they can bomb, but when actual sacrifice and difficulty is encountered (like in Ukraine) they tuck their tail.
Some might call it strategicā¦. Others might call it a bullyās cowardice.
Some might call it strategicā¦. Others might call it a bullyās cowardice.
You lost me when you described 30k-40k soldiers as a āhandful of terror cellsā. Aside from your gross mischaracterization, I would hope most reasonable people would hope for peace in Gaza as well as Ukraine.
Where was this liberal courage when Putin took the Crimea and turned Syria into a puppet with a warm water Naval base?
That a whole lot of words when you could have just used a cry face emoji
