Official Cincinnati Prediction Thread

[Henry Kendall]

Color me convinced.

Thought the defensive performance against the Pokes was maybe a fluke, given the weird start of the season. Turns out this predictor was wrong. This D is really fun to watch.

Nostalgia time: Reminisce about the Keith Burns defenses. The 200 lb. LBs, that stoopid shift on the D-line right before the snap, the ridiculous arm tackles that allowed some mediocre RB to look like a Heisman winner. Awww.....the good ol' days.

Let's hope our OC stays out his own way.

Look out, the AAC as best of the rest is creeping toward the P5 in performance. The polls are a little funky this year, but having 4 or 5 AAC teams in the top 25 is remarkable.

TU: 31
UC: 28

Bonus Kendall prediction: Zaven Collins has 11 tackles, 3 TFL, 2 pass breakups, and at halftime develops a new treatment for Covid.

 

[HuffyCane]

Without the distractions of Homecoming, this homecoming is a little smoother.

University of I’ll Never Be Convinced 41
Bear scats 35

 

[mcane]

If TU wins, that means D holding down the UC attack, avoiding TOs and good special teams play.

TU 27
UC 17

 

[HuffyCane]

If TU wins, that means D holding down the UC attack, avoiding TOs and good special teams play.

TU 27
UC 17

You could be right. A very reasonable person might see this as a 17-7 game with the winner being either school.

 

[TulsaFanFromStigler]

Color me convinced.

Thought the defensive performance against the Pokes was maybe a fluke, given the weird start of the season. Turns out this predictor was wrong. This D is really fun to watch.

Nostalgia time: Reminisce about the Keith Burns defenses. The 200 lb. LBs, that stoopid shift on the D-line right before the snap, the ridiculous arm tackles that allowed some mediocre RB to look like a Heisman winner. Awww.....the good ol' days.

Let's hope our OC stays out his own way.

Look out, the AAC as best of the rest is creeping toward the P5 in performance. The polls are a little funky this year, but having 4 or 5 AAC teams in the top 25 is remarkable.

TU: 31
UC: 28

Bonus Kendall prediction: Zaven Collins has 11 tackles, 3 TFL, 2 pass breakups, and at halftime develops a new treatment for Covid.

Tulsa Gonna Win 35 - 23

 

[noble cane]

Without the distractions of Homecoming, this homecoming is a little smoother.

University of I’ll Never Be Convinced 41
Bear scats 35

Assuming we dont have a burn ban in effect, the socially distanced homecoming bonfire will be burning bright here in the sticks.

Unfortunately we wont surprise anyone from here on out..

Governor Stitt.... 1
Bear .. 0

 

[Gold*]

Ike’s 24
That ain’t chili 17

 

[TU Sepp]

TU's defense has come to play.

Is there anyone on here that thinks that Zaven Collins reminds them of a bigger stronger Al Humphries. Although I think Al might have been a tad bit faster than Zaven.

 

[TU 1978]

11th Street Hurricane 28
Cincy Cat 14

 

[TU_BLA]

If TU wins, that means D holding down the UC attack, avoiding TOs and good special teams play.

TU 27
UC 17

I like this prediction. If our offense hadn't spotted UCF 13 points the other day, we blow them out. Our D simply needs to keep us in the game until the offense finds a little rhythm. As Herman Boone said, the offense is like novocaine. Give it a little time, it always works

 

[loca2874]

The ESPN power index has Tulsa at a 55.2 percent chance to win this game.

Tee Yoo 28
Scaredy-cats 24

 

[Tulsa_]

Tulsa vs Cincinnati Betting Odds
All betting lines, odds and prop bets are available on FanDuel Sportsbook.
Moneyline: TLSA: (+620) | CIN: (-925)
Spread: TLSA: +17 (+100) | CIN: -17 (-120)
Total: 48 – Over: (-105) | Under: (-115)
Public (Spread) Betting Percentages: TLSA: 38% | CIN: 62%

17 ???
6.2 : 1 against us winning ?

 

[drboobay]

Got my 2 tix. Interesting that most ticket blocks required 4 bought. Wonder if they will all sell.

 

[quincy101]

Bear scats 35

If a Bear Scats in the woods & no one's there to step in it, did it really happen?

 

[Hurricane Drummer II]

Tulsa vs Cincinnati Betting Odds
All betting lines, odds and prop bets are available on FanDuel Sportsbook.
Moneyline: TLSA: (+620) | CIN: (-925)
Spread: TLSA: +17 (+100) | CIN: -17 (-120)
Total: 48 – Over: (-105) | Under: (-115)
Public (Spread) Betting Percentages: TLSA: 38% | CIN: 62%

17 ???
6.2 : 1 against us winning ?

I think this may be from last year's game.

 

[loca2874]

The ESPN power index has Tulsa at a 55.2 percent chance to win this game.

Tee Yoo 28
Scaredy-cats 24

We have now been moved to 59 percent

 

[HuffyCane]

We have now been moved to 59 percent

Insane. Last year’s game, should you have a need to recall, was essentially an entire game played like the first quarter of the UCF game this year. Puzzling offensive calls, five turnovers by Smith alone, 100 yards of penalties, but the defense kept us in it until Smith forced in a pick with 4 minutes left and the nationally ranked but injury depleted Cincinnati team took the ball and the lead and then the game. It’s a weird year. They are on the road. They don’t have the trouble that Hype and UCF have with the multiple 3 defense. Theyve got five years of tape on our offense and Smith is still committing the inaccuracies, fumbles and interceptions that plagued him at Baylor when he isn’t comfortable with the play calls. This is a pick ‘em game at best for either side and will be highly entertaining.

 

[quincy101]

Thang is, TU simply can't play as bad as the 1st 13 minutes of the 1st Q vs UCF. Not possible. Plus, when the Cincy game starts, we will have had two extra weeks of practice with the O vs the League's best defense & the D vs an improving O from the 1st 2 games. I, personally, have a high level of confidence that we will beat Cincy's A$$.

 

[mcane]

CU favored by 4
CU’s wins over Army which beat Citadel 14-9 doesn’t look so great
And a 21 point W over USF worse
I would take TU straight up

and CU has yet to play in a stadium with fans
Assuming TU does not implode in the first quarter I’m marking this down as a W
TU leads the ACC and gets SmU and UH here

we need uH to beat BYU which is as overrated as is CU

 

[Babe the Blue Ox]

CU favored by 4
CU’s wins over Army which beat Citadel 14-9 doesn’t look so great
And a 21 point W over USF worse
I would take TU straight up

and CU has yet to play in a stadium with fans
Assuming TU does not implode in the first quarter I’m marking this down as a W
TU leads the ACC and gets SmU and UH here

we need uH to beat BYU which is as overrated as is CU

I believe the Houston game is there this season.

 

[loca2874]

CU favored by 4
CU’s wins over Army which beat Citadel 14-9 doesn’t look so great
And a 21 point W over USF worse
I would take TU straight up

and CU has yet to play in a stadium with fans
Assuming TU does not implode in the first quarter I’m marking this down as a W
TU leads the ACC and gets SmU and UH here

we need uH to beat BYU which is as overrated as is CU

Cincinnati does not have a quality win at all. I believe we will be their toughest competition so far. They are sitting in that 8 spot. We need to beat the brakes off these guys. If we do then the loss to OSU (who is beating folks) is really going to piss me off

 

[TULSARISING]

TU 31
Cin 24

 

[TU4ever2]

Their defense is stout and disciplined. Their offense operates mostly mistake free and heavy on the run. This leads to overall low scoring games that appear much closer than they are.

Defensively they have good talent and a creative flexible staff.

Our defense will have a lot of success against passing teams and have issues (especially if our offense is ineffective) with big and running teams.

Tulsa will commit 10 penalties for about 100 yards and produce just over 300 yards of offense, with some nice turnovers mixed in.

Cincinnati will keep Tulsa in front on defense and force long drives with conservative play, grind on the run game and play action late. They'll score off a couple turnovers and two or three good drives without making a lot of mistakes the entire game.

Cincy 33
Tulsa 17

One TD by our defense getting a turnover to the house or in Cincy territory, two wtf calls because its Monty, and a couple missed field goals.

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Their defense is stout and disciplined. Their offense operates mostly mistake free and heavy on the run. This leads to overall low scoring games that appear much closer than they are.

Defensively they have good talent and a creative flexible staff.

Our defense will have a lot of success against passing teams and have issues (especially if our offense is ineffective) with big and running teams.

Tulsa will commit 10 penalties for about 100 yards and produce just over 300 yards of offense, with some nice turnovers mixed in.

Cincinnati will keep Tulsa in front on defense and force long drives with conservative play, grind on the run game and play action late. They'll score off a couple turnovers and two or three good drives without making a lot of mistakes the entire game.

Cincy 33
Tulsa 17

One TD by our defense getting a turnover to the house or in Cincy territory, two wtf calls because its Monty, and a couple missed field goals.

Where is your prediction to the half yard on our offensive output, and the # of tackles for a loss by Collins?

 

[TU4ever2]

Where is your prediction to the half yard on our offensive output, and the # of tackles for a loss by Collins?

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Collins will depend on how well they handle Player. If they are able to keep him from demanding two or even three offensive players Collins will struggle. If he continues to show dominance and cause problems that prevent offensive linemen from getting to the second level, or eveb picking up some of the blitzes then Collins will get three or four.

Collins needs to be free to be most effective, if you watch a lot of his TFL happen after he reads and reacts to the play. A three hundred pound lineman takes a little while to get around. Player has been eating up attention, our cornerbacks have been locking up the recievers leaving Collins the freedom to move and the time to react and make plays. He makes the correct reads, is explosive to the ball and a strong tackler, our DC has done a good job of setting the defense up to exploit those skill sets. Our DB size also helps when we face RBs who get to the second level a lot. It is impressive to watch, I think we will look back at this coach like we did some of the offensive coordinators we have had since Kragthorpe.

 

[nevadanatural]

After watching Player for three years I’ve yet to see a lineman that can “handle” him one-on-one. If they don’t put at least two guys on him he’s in the backfield causing trouble.

 

[astonmartin708]

Their QB is talented but just a slight bit less accurate than Smith. Ill be surprised if the don't commit at least 3 turnovers. We have to capitalize on those though. I'm not sure we'll get as many penalty yards going our way as we did against UCF. They will bust a couple big plays on weird gadget sets. Their defense is ok but probably not !ugh better than Wyoming's last season.... Though they probably have better corners.

I'm not making a score prediction. I think this one has overtime potential. We need a big day from all phases and no mental mistakes from players or coaches.

 

[TU4ever2]

After watching Player for three years I’ve yet to see a lineman that can “handle” him one-on-one. If they don’t put at least two guys on him he’s in the backfield causing trouble.

He is impressive, unfortunately we only have one of him and our line doesn't hold up great at the end of the game especially against grind teams.

They can do certain things scheme wise to get away with chipping, or sneaking some one on ones in there. We really cause trouble though when they have to double team him and play away from him, or add a chip block from someone else too.

 

[TU_BLA]

He is impressive, unfortunately we only have one of him and our line doesn't hold up great at the end of the game especially against grind teams.

They can do certain things scheme wise to get away with chipping, or sneaking some one on ones in there. We really cause trouble though when they have to double team him and play away from him, or add a chip block from someone else too.

Our DL has been fine. And it has good depth. I've repeatedly pointed this out. Not only can we roll fresh players out, they're actually pretty good players. Gillespie regularly rolls 3 full DL sets out there barring injuries. OUr top 3 is as good as what our top 3 were last year. I love the set with Player-Stevenson-Goodlow. Teams CANNOT run outside on that group. Goodlow has length and speed, Player collapses the pocket by pushing the OT into the backfield but also makes sure the tackle is force deep and outside. This is why Collins and Wright and TieNeal Martin and Sawyer (when in) always seem to be in the backfield on running plays. Stevenson always occupies 2 linemen. And having an extra run blocker in the form of an H-back, FB, or TE hasn't been effective against us either. Our susceptibility to long runs are the backs with exceptional vision, speed, and Barry Sanders' cutback ability because of our tendency to over pursue. We have been better disciplined against this type of runner this year than we were last year. HUbbard's 75 yd TD on the 1st play was exactly that...Collins and Edmiston both over pursued and ran past the cutback lane. Anderson's TD for UCF was one of these as well combined with a missed tackle (which hasn't been as big a problem this year as it has been in past years). Our overall speed at LB and in the secondary, especially Martin, have made our run defense much better. This is where teams are struggling to figure out how to attack this style of defense. Fickel did an interview where he was asked about Collins and the defense and he was very complimentary about trying to figure out where the cracks were.

 

[quincy101]

The passing game of both teams will be tough since 25-30 mph winds are forecast. I like our run game to pound on Cincy's D which should pay dividends in the 4th Q. TK, Taylor & Prince. Ouch! They have a good RB but is he as good as Chubby Hubby who we pretty much shut down. I think not.

 

[HuffyCane]

The passing game of both teams will be tough since 25-30 mph winds are forecast. I like our run game to pound on Cincy's D which should pay dividends in the 4th Q. TK, Taylor & Prince. Ouch! They have a good RB but is he as good as Chubby Hubby who we pretty much shut down. I think not.

They have two good running backs. And offense and a coach that knows how to attack the multiple 3 defense we run, unlike UCF. This is gonna be a slug fest regardless of weather.

Gonna need a huge game from Player and the Cat. If our line can maintain two gap responsibility, that will free up the LB crew to stuff or set Zaven free. Should be some great battles, even if the score is 17-3. Looking forward to it.

 

[HuffyCane]

Our DL has been fine. And it has good depth. I've repeatedly pointed this out. Not only can we roll fresh players out, they're actually pretty good players. Gillespie regularly rolls 3 full DL sets out there barring injuries. OUr top 3 is as good as what our top 3 were last year. I love the set with Player-Stevenson-Goodlow. Teams CANNOT run outside on that group. Goodlow has length and speed, Player collapses the pocket by pushing the OT into the backfield but also makes sure the tackle is force deep and outside. This is why Collins and Wright and TieNeal Martin and Sawyer (when in) always seem to be in the backfield on running plays. Stevenson always occupies 2 linemen. And having an extra run blocker in the form of an H-back, FB, or TE hasn't been effective against us either. Our susceptibility to long runs are the backs with exceptional vision, speed, and Barry Sanders' cutback ability because of our tendency to over pursue. We have been better disciplined against this type of runner this year than we were last year. HUbbard's 75 yd TD on the 1st play was exactly that...Collins and Edmiston both over pursued and ran past the cutback lane. Anderson's TD for UCF was one of these as well combined with a missed tackle (which hasn't been as big a problem this year as it has been in past years). Our overall speed at LB and in the secondary, especially Martin, have made our run defense much better. This is where teams are struggling to figure out how to attack this style of defense. Fickel did an interview where he was asked about Collins and the defense and he was very complimentary about trying to figure out where the cracks were.

Player can do that because the end uses a 4 or 4i technique depending on down and distance. Watch Goodlow and whether he lines up hat to hat or over the tackle’s shoulder. On second and short where you might see an edge run, he will line up as a 4 and Player will shoot the A gap knowing B and C are covered. Usually it’s the nose playing zero and having two gap responsibility in a multiple 3 defense, but not us not always lately as close as I can tell. That’s how you see Zaven and the others collapse to the edge with only a single gap responsibility and stop the run for a short loss. Obviously, it’s usually much more complicated than this, but a few times it’s just that simple. Against UCF, it happened several times.

 

[quincy101]

Well, just watched the local weather & I'm wrong about the wind. 10 to 15 mph so I guess everyone's passing game is back in the mix. No prob. Cincy will still have issues with our pressure & back-end.

 

[TU Sepp]

I have no idea what our offense will do against Cinncy....

TU - ???

Cinncy - 20

 

[bluegold70]

Happy 50th Homecoming to me.....in honor of my 50th our offense goes bananas and scores 50....while our most excellent defense hold the barekittens to a bare ass 14.....

Most Excellent University 50
sinsinnatty 14

NUKE EM for the Bluehairs!!!!! (in my case..no hair)

 

[TU Pilot]

Game postponed until 5 Dec...

 

[loca2874]

Game postponed until 5 Dec...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I HATE YOU CINCINNATI!!!!!!