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No but I think we should add Army and Air Force so we can have all of the military academies in the conference, maybe Boise State as wellHad officially applied for the big 12 and is expected to be accepted by this Friday. Will aac kick us out.
Whatever and whoever maximizes our overall streaming value for football is all that matters.Service Academies would kill our basketball NET. No thanks. We need well rounded programs who are competitive in multiple sports
Wonder if we could do them as football only? Maybe pick up Creighton or Butler for basketball only ?Service Academies would kill our basketball NET. No thanks. We need well rounded programs who are competitive in multiple sports
Any idea how that would work with the armed forces network? Assumed the academies would have their streaming available on the AFN.Whatever and whoever maximizes our overall streaming value for football is all that matters.
Will aac kick us out.
Shaking my head.Wonder if we could do them as football only? Maybe pick up Creighton or Butler for basketball only ?
Army would be football only.Service Academies would kill our basketball NET. No thanks. We need well rounded programs who are competitive in multiple sports
I like where you are going with this but I would swap out SO Miss for UAB. They are building a new stadium and have recent success in basketball and football. Plus they built a good stadium. These other teams are building 15k seat stadiums. The other team would be Air Force in my opinion. They would add a national following and a more historical name.who do we add?
Boise, col st, so Miss, and?
🤢I don’t see the AAC being able to pull any MWC schools aboard. Sunbelt and CUSA more likely targets.
You may be right but I think our chances are better if we take more than just 2. If we take 4 or more we have a TV contract to negotiate with and a better preception than other G5s. By taking more we take out other competition and provide a more complete geographical division.I don’t see the AAC being able to pull any MWC schools aboard. Sunbelt and CUSA more likely targets.
Agree. The MWC schools are regional rivals and the conference fits into a nice geographical footprint. You’re asking a few of those schools to abandon those rivalries and incur increased travel expenses to join a similar league. I would be surprised if the increased network revenue (assuming that to be the case) would be sufficient to override those negatives. Now, if the AAC invites 4-6 of those schools then those problems are greatly reduced.You may be right but I think our chances are better if we take more than just 2. If we take 4 or more we have a TV contract to negotiate with and a better preception than other G5s. By taking more we take out other competition and provide a more complete geographical division.
Pig Pokers would block it so not even worth the try.Why didn't TU apply for membership in the Big 12?
Never hurts to at least put yourself out there and try!
I doubt if the MWC would be interested in that, they'd prefer to let the AAC raid C-USA and the Sunbelt then claim the P-6 label.The 20 team megaconference seems like the best option inclusive of AAC, MWC and Army.
Had officially applied for the big 12 and is expected to be accepted by this Friday. Will aac kick us out.
Hard no on Liberty for me. It's basically ORU on worldwide crack. I think the AAC needs to balance geography with what's in the conference now. UMASS does that, Charlotte, UAB, and <pick a school>. Maybe UTSA? Lots of eyeballs in San Antonio and the Roadrunners are a program with potential in lots of sports. UAB is a competitive winner. UMASS has a ton of support. Charlotte is that new program with a lot of potential and in a city that is seemingly craving teams to root for. Sure some will support the Research Triangle schools, but Charlotte is sort of away from that area and a different type of citizenry and fan base from the Raleigh area. There's a ton of potential eyeballs and supporters with Charlotte and a boost in competition will probably provide a boost to their recruiting. Ideally Aresco would pursue some programs in P5s and get them to look ahead. TCU and Vanderbilt will almost assuredly be left out of any FBS Super League conversation.If I had to handicap it, UAB and Liberty. Maybe Air Force and Colorado State, but there would be concessions there on scheduling and certain non football travel. Issues that remain from the WAC. The Charlotte people are high on themselves. Never really looked into the very limited publicly available numbers on them though.
Army has close to a full scheduled lined up for the next 10 years. That would be very difficult to unwind.Army and Umass.
i like north texas, southern miss, FAU and/or louisana or La Tech
I believe this is the correct line of reasoning. Come 2025 I do think the only members left in the Big12 will be BYU, Houston, Cincy, UCF, Iowa State, KState, Baylor and TCU. At this point I see the Big12 remnants adding Boise, Colorado State, Memphis, etc…. Hopefully Tulsa can get into what will clearly be the best G5.Hard no on Liberty for me. It's basically ORU on worldwide crack. I think the AAC needs to balance geography with what's in the conference now. UMASS does that, Charlotte, UAB, and <pick a school>. Maybe UTSA? Lots of eyeballs in San Antonio and the Roadrunners are a program with potential in lots of sports. UAB is a competitive winner. UMASS has a ton of support. Charlotte is that new program with a lot of potential and in a city that is seemingly craving teams to root for. Sure some will support the Research Triangle schools, but Charlotte is sort of away from that area and a different type of citizenry and fan base from the Raleigh area. There's a ton of potential eyeballs and supporters with Charlotte and a boost in competition will probably provide a boost to their recruiting. Ideally Aresco would pursue some programs in P5s and get them to look ahead. TCU and Vanderbilt will almost assuredly be left out of any FBS Super League conversation.
As Huffy keeps saying, stop thinking the quality of their program at this static moment in time is the end all and be all for that expansion decision. (And this is where the Big XII will fail and why UCF, Cincinnati, and Houston will find themselves in a bad space in 10-12 months from now. The PAC 12 is waiting to see what the SEC does with OU and Texas and when that exit is going to come. It's not going to be 2025. I think that's when the PAC 12 makes their decision and poaches OSU and 1 other. The B1G is not going to sit by and their going to take Iowa State and Kansas. And WVa may end up in the ACC before the end of the year. BYU will jump back out of the deal and stay independent and won't lose a dime or any sleep. And the insanely funny thing is, even if none of this happens, I feel confident that the ALLIANCE and the SEC EMPIRE will cut the Little XII out of any playoff deal in the next negotiation and they'll be relegated to G# status moving forward.
It’s very difficult for independents to schedule late season home games. Back when we were Indy, 5 game home schedules were the norm with some seasons only having 4 home games.My question is why don’t we just go back to being an independent? We can schedule better games that way and are not locked in to Arky State or North Texas or Western Kentucky.
Why didn't TU apply for membership in the Big 12?
Never hurts to at least put yourself out there and try!
I hear you on this but now it’s a question of quality over quantity. Do we want more home games or do we want our quality of opponent to go up? That is the reason for the question.It’s very difficult for independents to schedule late season home games. Back when we were Indy, 5 game home schedules were the norm with some seasons only having 4 home games.
And where are you going to put the Olympic sports, in the conference with ORU? That would be exciting.
I thought you followed basketball as well based on your avatar.I hear you on this but now it’s a question of quality over quantity. Do we want more home games or do we want our quality of opponent to go up? That is the reason for the question.
As for the Olympic sports I am sure someone will take them. The only Olympic sport I follow from TU is softball.