Illinois State
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This is a disaster. We have talent but it’s not being utilized. JP would do more with this roster.
In all honesty, it wouldn’t matter who we beat or didn’t beat...
What’s wrong with that? He could coach, just couldn’t recruit or evaluate talent or handle the media. I like our players a lot, but something is very wrong. We aren’t ready to play. We are getting killed on the boards by the one team that may be worse at rebounding than us.
Yup. Plus we’re in year 4 and in those 4 years our zone has never done anything but hurt us. Yet we continue to run it....and the exact same way. Hard to stay emotionally invested watching a talented team be wasted. But I will continue to watch because I hate myself or something probably
Since I’m in full melt now, might as well point out how dumb we play. The number of offensive possessions we waste with crap like Henderson just pulled is insane
How is Muller at ILS beating us so badly in recruiting? You can’t say the Valley or Normal , Illinois is superior to Tulsa.
This is incredibly frustrating to watch... we have talent, but for some reason it isn’t clicking. This is Haiths team now... so at this point it’s on him... idk what needs to happen to get this fixed but we’re gonna really struggle in conference play in January and February... Tulane is looking like they may pass us up this year with the way we’re playing.
Yeah baby, we started comeback with freshman and 4 or 5 min to go. We'll get it down to 2 or 3 and lose by 6 or 7. I knew they could make it respectable and lose.
Haith really needs to reevaluate some things over this week off... I’m not sure I can handle both football and basketball being awful in the same year.
Don't know how Seniors Henderson or Wheeler see the floor by conference time- don't know that they bring anything to the table- would rather see Jackson develop
Anyone think we can beat this team at their place?- my guess is a loss by 20 and that's being nice, sorry
We actually got it down to 10 & then got 2 horrible calls in a row. Jackson seemed to be able to bother Evans. He & Joiner do bring energy on defense.
Joiner is gonna be really good. I really like him, he just has to get over some of his freshman mistakes but that’s natural.
6 for 23 on 3pt field goals- can't take that many if we can't make'em- get it inside, period- just a terrible shooting team
Illinois state on fire from 3, our ineptitude from behind the arc, low energy, and poor defense cost us this game when we very well had the talent to win. This shouldn’t be happening at this point... this isn’t a rebuilding year, this isn’t a coach coming in and working with someone else’s players. These are all Franks guys and he needs to be responsible for making this work. TU isn’t paying him nearly $2 million per year to put this type of product on the floor.
I have no confidence that we will, but I hope we find a way to kick their ass. Their coach is a tool and Evans needs to be put in his place
And unlike Monty, this isn't Frank's first go, he's been a HC for a long time. What you see is probably what you get.
Strange thing tho, wasn't his reputation that he could coach but not recruit? He did well with other people's players but couldn't get his own? He hasn't seemed like a particularly good X and Os coach ever but is getting some talent.
I don’t know anymore... we should be undefeated right now or at worst, one loss.
Haith refuses to adapt. He's been doing it for 12 or 14 years and says why change. He hired a coach that had the same philosophy.(Henderson) Guard inside and leave em open outside. It's not working this year, it didn't work last year. He's not going to change. That is killing us on defense and apparently always will kill us until we change coaches.
He doesn't know what it means to adapt to your players or adapt to what the other team does. Apparently he doesn't ever even coach what he needed to change, so I guess there was nothing to tell them to change to. His defensive philosophy sucks. When you don't guard them shooting threes at first, sometimes they get in a rhythm, and it doesn't matter if u pressure them later. They keep making it anyway, cuz they're in rhythm.
We aren't a hot 3 pt shooting team, but we were just awful from three today. That won't last. Henderson is on a Birt streak. Which is funny cuz preseason he was shooting like Birt year before the Birt streak. We want Joiner, Taplin, & Scott shooting 3's. Henderson just wasted 4 trips down the floor. If he misses his first three, I don't want to see him taking a 4th 3 ptr. Don't really want to see him shooting 3 or 4 per game if his averages don't pick up. We did that with Birt till season's end.
He doesn't know what it means to adapt to your players or adapt to what the other team does. Apparently he doesn't ever even coach what he needed to change, so I guess there was nothing to tell them to change to. His defensive philosophy sucks. When you don't guard them shooting threes at first, sometimes they get in a rhythm, and it doesn't matter if u pressure them later. They keep making it anyway, cuz they're in rhythm.
We aren't a hot 3 pt shooting team, but we were just awful from three today. That won't last. Henderson is on a Birt streak. Which is funny cuz preseason he was shooting like Birt year before the Birt streak. We want Joiner, Taplin, & Scott shooting 3's. Henderson just wasted 4 trips down the floor. If he misses his first three, I don't want to see him taking a 4th 3 ptr. Don't really want to see him shooting 3 or 4 per game if his averages don't pick up. We did that with Birt till season's end.
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