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2024 Election prediction/discussion

We have to be honest that culture war issues are a huge driver.
100%. Some of the fringe social positions of the Dems don’t play well with white working class, Hispanics or even black males. Abortion limitations doesn’t play well with the college educated for the most part.
 
100%. Some of the fringe social positions of the Dems don’t play well with white working class, Hispanics or even black males. Abortion limitations doesn’t play well with the college educated for the most part.
The fringey social positions are freakout sets by Fox News and Libs of TikTok, and they are really, really good at it. My biggest concern never was porn in school. Playboy existed long before libs of tiktok came to be.

Abortion has passed in virtually every state it was put on the ballot. Hell, it only failed in Florida because it was run as a constitutional amendment and needed 60% to pass. I think it got 59%. Marijuana got LESS.
 
The fringey social positions are freakout sets by Fox News and Libs of TikTok, and they are really, really good at it. My biggest concern never was porn in school. Playboy existed long before libs of tiktok came to be.

Abortion has passed in virtually every state it was put on the ballot. Hell, it only failed in Florida because it was run as a constitutional amendment and needed 60% to pass. I think it got 59%. Marijuana got LESS.
1). You clearly aren’t familiar with Hispanic social values

2). Did you figure out why your post on total votes cast in this election was wrong ?
 
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I would love to see it by educational breakdown… those college elite globalist shills in the Democratic Party really had their butts handed to them by the Fuhr… I mean by Trump….good riddance to their years of stagnancy and competency is what I say…. Finally we have a solution
 
Ahhh….another Hitler reference.

Hoping the final sentence was intentional. If so….nicely done.

1). You clearly aren’t familiar with Hispanic social values

2). Did you figure out why your post on total votes cast in this election was wrong ?

2024
Trump 72,816,266 votes
Kamala 68,171,433 votes

2020
Biden. 81,283,501 votes
Trump. 74,223,975 votes

That is minus for both candidates, 1.4 million for Trump and 13.1 for Kamala. The premise still stands. Fourteen million fewer people still voted in this election. This isn't a mandate.

Question: Does Kamala and her supporters get to burn down the Capital? That is cool now, right? I mean, everyone is going to get pardoned now, right? Everyone gets a free Destroy the Capitol and Beat the hell out of some cops day.
 
2024
Trump 72,816,266 votes
Kamala 68,171,433 votes

2020
Biden. 81,283,501 votes
Trump. 74,223,975 votes

That is minus for both candidates, 1.4 million for Trump and 13.1 for Kamala. The premise still stands. Fourteen million fewer people still voted in this election. This isn't a mandate.

Question: Does Kamala and her supporters get to burn down the Capital? That is cool now, right? I mean, everyone is going to get pardoned now, right? Everyone gets a free Destroy the Capitol and Beat the hell out of some cops day.
Do you understand that California is only 55% reported? They still have roughly 7 million votes to report. There are several other states still around 70% reported. We have roughly 13 million more votes to be reported. Like I said in my prior post….total vote will only be 1-2 million below the all time high in 2020. Which is remarkable considering the relax mail in rules. In short….your numbers and premise are still wrong
 
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Ahhh….another Hitler reference.

Hoping the final sentence was intentional. If so….nicely done.
A good fascist never tells.

Though as to Hitler reference I have no idea what you’re talking about… our new supreme leader does not like being compared to a such man who would try and seize authority through violence, fraud, and intimidation. Nor one who would resort to popular demagoguery to trick people to support him…. Our astute leader is much more capable than using such tricks. I can’t believe you would insinuate such things Lawpoke… how rude.
 
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2024
Trump 72,816,266 votes
Kamala 68,171,433 votes

2020
Biden. 81,283,501 votes
Trump. 74,223,975 votes

That is minus for both candidates, 1.4 million for Trump and 13.1 for Kamala. The premise still stands. Fourteen million fewer people still voted in this election. This isn't a mandate.

Question: Does Kamala and her supporters get to burn down the Capital? That is cool now, right? I mean, everyone is going to get pardoned now, right? Everyone gets a free Destroy the Capitol and Beat the hell out of some cops day.
I don't believe that Biden got more votes than obama
 
LGBTQ issues.
Yes. It is just reality. Though I would say homosexuality is greatly normalized in society but the hyperemphasis on other sexual identity fringe issues is off putting to many.

I go back to a point I made about the time I grew up. The liberal adpiration was "Don't label me." Now it often feels like "give people as many labels as you can."

Might not be a popular view here buy gotta report what I see.
 
Yes. It is just reality. Though I would say homosexuality is greatly normalized in society but the hyperemphasis on other sexual identity fringe issues is off putting to many.

I go back to a point I made about the time I grew up. The liberal adpiration was "Don't label me." Now it often feels like "give people as many labels as you can."

Might not be a popular view here buy gotta report what I see.
I believe a significant portion of them would be accepting of basic respect for gays and lesbians. It’s when you get into things like pronouns “a girl identifying as a boy is a “they””, men in girls bathrooms, males playing against their daughters in sports, etc…is where things begin to break down for most.
 
I believe a significant portion of them would be accepting of basic respect for gays and lesbians. It’s when you get into things like pronouns “a girl identifying as a boy is a “they””, men in girls bathrooms, males playing against their daughters in sports, etc…is where things begin to break down for most.
Yes. We must adhere to traditional general roles!


Männer sollten die Hosen und Frauen die Kleider tragen!

Sorry… was I shouting in German? I don’t even know German…. I don’t know what came over me… I must have had a small stroke for a second.


Anyway… we will be passing out the uniforms at the schools next Thursday to encourage these gender norms….. we got a wonderful deal on some khaki shirts with black shorts for the boys. Very smart looking.
 
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Speaking of Communism and the Third Reich... I guess whatever assistance Biden can dole out, ahead of turning over the reins to Trump, will be the last of it from the US. With Trump and his buddy Elon, we are now team Putin. I wonder if the Evil Axis will make us an honorary member? Trump can fill his pockets with Rubles. Elon has his own money, so he can fill his pockets with emptiness, and the communist way.
 
Speaking of Communism and the Third Reich... I guess whatever assistance Biden can dole out, ahead of turning over the reins to Trump, will be the last of it from the US. With Trump and his buddy Elon, we are now team Putin. I wonder if the Evil Axis will make us an honorary member? Trump can fill his pockets with Rubles. Elon has his own money, so he can fill his pockets with emptiness, and the communist way.
So no more giving hundreds of billions to our industrial military complex or will we just find another war to keeping lining their pockets?

Hate to see Putin ceded that territory but when we allowed them to take it virtually unopposed it was inevitable. Ukraine isn’t taking it back without US boots on the ground and that ain’t happening. Time to stop the killing and wasted billions and start rebuilding what’s left of Ukraine. Peace is good.

Maybe we can achieve a semblance of peace in the Middle East while we’re at it. Wars and killing need to stop
 
So just a random question , had anyone from here ever caused anyone to change their minds about something political ? 😂
 
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So no more giving hundreds of billions to our industrial military complex or will we just find another war to keeping lining their pockets?

Hate to see Putin ceded that territory but when we allowed them to take it virtually unopposed it was inevitable. Ukraine isn’t taking it back without US boots on the ground and that ain’t happening. Time to stop the killing and wasted billions and start rebuilding what’s left of Ukraine. Peace is good.

Maybe we can achieve a semblance of peace in the Middle East while we’re at it. Wars and killing need to stop
We just replaced it with Israel, as Putin directed us to do, by proxy with Hamas/Iran/Hezebollah. His command was ours to take. It doesn't bother you that Putin is playing us like Marionettes with Trump & to a certain extent Biden. China/Russia are setting themselves up for war with us, if necessary. As soon as they are confident, Putin will attempt to take the entirety of Ukraine, and then look to the next country. His Russian empire doesn't end with Ukraine. And of course, when Xi feels confident then Hong Kong will suffer and then Taiwan will be taken over.

They are making preparations just recently by making inroads on the Himalayan border right now. China is always doing something to prepare for tomorrow. It's going to come before we know it. Maybe it won't be in our lifetime, but it certainly will occur in your daughter's lifetime. This laissez faire attitude that you wish to take is dangerous.
 
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I believe a significant portion of them would be accepting of basic respect for gays and lesbians. It’s when you get into things like pronouns “a girl identifying as a boy is a “they””, men in girls bathrooms, males playing against their daughters in sports, etc…is where things begin to break down for most.
Genetic males and females have vastly different physical abilities on average. Vastly. That is no different than saying that stuff falls down and not up when you drop things.

We just need some damned common sense! And don't make a big deal out of everything.

On the other side of it, I don't really care if a little boy thinks of himself as a girl and thus uses the girls bathroom. Neither would any of my daughters. It is a made up problem.

Again common sense. Not stoking fear or making up crazy talk.
 
So just a random question , had anyone from here ever caused anyone to change their minds about something political ? 😂
There are smart people here that make me stop and think. Maybe even change my mind on some topics. Not about Trump but about issues of the day.
 
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We just replaced it with Israel, aa Putin directed us to do, by proxy with Hamas/Iran/Hezebollah. His command was ours to take. It doesn't bother you that Putin is playing us like Marionettes with Trump & to a certain extent Biden. China/Russia are setting themselves up for war with us, if necessary. As soon as they are confident, Putin will attempt to take the entirety of Ukraine, and then look to the next country. His Russian empire doesn't end with Ukraine. And of course, when Xi feels confident then Hong Kong will suffer and then Taiwan will be taken over.

They are making preparations just recently by making inroads on the Himalayan border right now. China is always doing something to prepare for tomorrow. It's going to come before we know it. Maybe it won't be in our lifetime, but it certainly will occur in your daughter's lifetime. This laissez faire attitude that you wish to take is dangerous.
Of course it bothers me. Don’t forget in the months leading up to the war I was the lone voice urging the U.S. to provide Ukraine with the military assets necessary to defend against the invasion. I knew once Russian acquired that territory it was never being returned. Ukraine loses a war of attrition. Ukraine will be in a worse position two years from now than today from which to negotiate. If you have a better solution then I’m all ears
 
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There are smart people here that make me stop and think. Maybe even change my mind on some topics. Not about Trump but about issues of the day.
True , I think for the most part , most of us are pretty solid on our core views, im personally registered as an independent, probably the closest thing I would be considered would be a blue dog Democrat ( if that even exists anymore ) I can’t say I’m a supporter of either side ( I think both sides have corruption ) I would like to have someone who isn’t an extremist on either side , just someone that has common sense about things and dosnt go so far extreme in either direction
 
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I mean I can see why people don’t like Trump , but what I can’t understand is how anyone can like Harris or Biden
Agreed. How could anyone in the center of the aisle appreciate anyone who got some of the most conservative members of Congress / politics like the Cheneys to support them? It was a no-good liberal trick. Glad you didn’t fall for it.
 
Happy to see that with our election of the chancellor…. Uh…. I mean President…we have reassured our new (and honestly age old) ally Vladimir Putin.

“The former structure of the world is irrevocably disappearing, we can say it has already gone, and a serious, irreconcilable struggle is unfolding for the formation of a new one,” Putin said.

"The calls of the West to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia, a country with the largest arsenal of nuclear weapons, demonstrates the exorbitant adventurism of Western politicians," said Putin.

"The world needs Russia, and no decisions by supposed superiors in Washington or Brussels can change that."

Happy to see that the ineffectual politicians from America’s second Reich, like Kennedy and Reagan wasted their time trying to temper the power of the Russian Federation. The world is a much better place when strong men like Trump and Putin are allied together. The American people have made the wise choice to take their rightful place beside and slightly below our much superior foe turned friend….

I for one welcome our new Siberian overlords and will welcome them with a salute of respect made famous by our illustrious leader. I hope the rest of my wonderfully loyal comrades are preparing to do the same.

giphy.webp
 
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True , I think for the most part , most of us are pretty solid on our core views, im personally registered as an independent, probably the closest thing I would be considered would be a blue dog Democrat ( if that even exists anymore ) I can’t say I’m a supporter of either side ( I think both sides have corruption ) I would like to have someone who isn’t an extremist on either side , just someone that has common sense about things and dosnt go so far extreme in either direction
Unfortunately, I believe it’s becoming harder and harder for moderates to win the nomination for either party.
 
Agreed. How could anyone in the center of the aisle appreciate anyone who got some of the most conservative members of Congress / politics like the Cheneys to support them? It was a no-good liberal trick. Glad you didn’t fall for it.
They(Cheney included) supported Trump's opponent. It could have been Bernie Sanders, and they still might have supported him. That's a false argument.
 
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