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Unintelligent voting precinct procedures!

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HuffyCane said:
Nope. That’s a restraint on the right to vote*
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Then election workers at the local polling places are a restraint to the right to vote.

By supervision, I only mean that people are supervised by three workers of varying parties to be voting without outside influence upon their voting by anyone besides themselves. Supervision is only meant to exclude outside influence from a person voting, not to influence their vote. Supervision is only meant to keep party operatives, relatives/friends, nursing home employees, or any other person from becoming involved in their voting process. We would supervise by making sure no one else is 'supervising'. The same as we do at local polling precincts.
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Unintelligent voting precinct procedures!

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If you an incapacitated or otherwise unable to get to a polling place, accomodations should be made for mailing a ballot. I believe in OK there needs to be a notary present for most absentee voting, which is a protection. Imperfect, but a protection. If you are able bodied, I think you should vote in person, though again, confirming whether someone is able-bodied is difficult. The presence of a notary is again mitigating and makes me feel more comfortable.
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Unintelligent voting precinct procedures!

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HuffyCane said:
They give it no attention because the fraud benefits them or they know the left will sue them for denying voting rights. Like your plan to send the government in to a nursing home to monitor how seniors are voting and intimidate them.
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The same as voters are intimidated at the local polling precincts by election workers supervising the voting that occurs there? I am only talking about volunteers that are only paid for the elections that they work, not officials on salary at the election board. People like me.
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Unintelligent voting precinct procedures!

HuffyCane
They give it no attention because the fraud benefits them or they know the left will sue them for denying voting rights. Like your plan to send the government in to a nursing home to monitor how seniors are voting and intimidate them when all they want to do is vote absentee like every one else.*

Mail in voting sounds good in theory but it’s totally unworkable in practice. Unless you are comfortable with a little bit of electioneering/fraud influencing the outcomes. And some people, including mostly Democrats, are.
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Unintelligent voting precinct procedures!

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HuffyCane said:
Well, everybody has a right to an absentee ballot, right? So the absentee ballots go to one address in the hospital. So the ballots go to the social director, head nurse, business manager, etc. Who sometimes just fills them out for the comatose patients. And he/she “helps” color in the oval for the others. So the local party machine just places their operatives in those positions to achieve the desired yield without being to sloppy or obvious about it. Of course when they bus everybody over to the casino once a month but can’t bus everyone to the polls, because problems, it gets a little too obvious.

Meanwhile Elder Home Village pushes to social media photos of grandma with her new friends in the cafeteria wearing red white and blue “casting” her last ballot. Huge problems with this, from both parties, in AZ, TX and FL.

The mail in ballot, absentee ballot scams go into the thousands. It would take a dozen threads to list just the best ones.
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Party officials should have the right to demand sets of special non precinct based election workers from both parties be sent into nursing homes to collect supervised provisional ballot voting, if they are concerned with nursing home patients right to vote. The other methods being used leave it open for easy and intentional election fraud.

Mailing them to an official at the nursing home or party operatives going into that home without supervision, and 'handing out' provisional ballots, should be illegal. I am sure if they put election officials on the task of figuring out how to do this with proper supervision, with limited manpower & time constraints, they could come up with a better solution than current policy is allowing. But I'm sure nobody is giving it any attention.
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2024 Election prediction/discussion

Chris Harmon
astonmartin708 said:
You only analyze the very surface of an issue.
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It is completely clear that what I'm analyzing are the statements that were made...the words that were used....and that the audience can take those words in a number of ways...some rational and some irrational. Obviously, candidates should be very careful about what they say, and I think both campaigns did a poor job in that area this time around. That was my point from the beginning. And it cannot be okay for one party to use certain phrases, regardless of tone or situation, yet completely wrong for another party to use those phrases.

If a person feels that something is good when their preferred party does it, but also feels the same thing is bad when the opposing party does it, I'm not sure what other term to use than bias.

IMO, it's these types of conversations that keep moderates from speaking up. Topics always get tied up with semantics, and then it goes in circles forever. It's why I rarely post in Crossfire. I'll check back in about 6 months.
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Unintelligent voting precinct procedures!

HuffyCane
Gmoney4WW said:
(Responses correspond to paragraphs above and below.)

1) They are digitally signed. I don't know if public inspection happens regularly, and/or upon request, but IIRC it does happen.

2) Yeah hand counted ballots and machine counted ballots both have their weaknesses. Both weaknesses can be addressed by putting stop gap measures in, that catch them in most instances.

3) I have problems about anybody being involved in someone who is mentally unable to process thought on a basic level necessary to make a decision on a candidate. There is 2 voters in my precinct, who appear unable to do that, and they come in with their relative, who casts their '2nd vote' in the election. I am fairly certain that their votes don't vary in who they both voted for, ever. One is senile, the other is mentally handicapped. So political operatives of either party going into nursing homes would bother me as well. Even if their motives were good, which they usually aren't, there is too much room for voter influence or direct voter control in unsupervised situations like that. If anybody goes into a nursing home it should be a panel of precinct officials from both parties similar to those found at a local polling location.

4) I was thinking the same thing about you.
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Well, everybody has a right to an absentee ballot, right? So the absentee ballots go to one address in the hospital. So the ballots go to the social director, head nurse, business manager, etc. Who sometimes just fills them out for the comatose patients. And he/she “helps” color in the oval for the others. So the local party machine just places their operatives in those positions to achieve the desired yield without being to sloppy or obvious about it. Of course when they bus everybody over to the casino once a month but can’t bus everyone to the polls, because problems, it gets a little too obvious.

Meanwhile Elder Home Village pushes to social media photos of grandma with her new friends in the cafeteria wearing red white and blue “casting” her last ballot. Huge problems with this, from both parties, in AZ, TX and FL.

The mail in ballot, absentee ballot scams go into the thousands. It would take a dozen threads to list just the best ones.
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Fire him TOMORROW!

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drboobay said:
I never want to lose. To me, the best outcome is four consecutive wins to close the season. Not holding my breath for that.
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Montgomery did that in 2021. He did benefit from the Tulane kicker missing a chip shot field goal that would have dropped TU to 3-7. But that team had more fight in them than this year's squad. They need to play like they did in the second half vs. UTSA.
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Mo State game thread

TU_BLA
lawpoke87 said:
Disappointed in the loss but not the effort. The ladies took Valley preseason #5 team to the final buzzer on the road. The ladies look capable of making some noise in the AAC this season.
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They need to ID some additional scorers to pull some pressure off of Crawford. Cartwright needs to do more and be more consistent. Hill needs to be one of those options and maybe Clack. Right now there's a lot of inconsistency.
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USMNT New Era

TU_BLA
An interesting question was posed after Brad Guzan stood on his head for Atlanta United against Inter Miami in the MLS playoffs to send Messi, Busquets, Jordi Alba, and Luis Suarez to the golf course this weekend. Should Guzan be getting some USMNT call ups? He's better than any current players in the pool in distribution and with his feet. He makes more A+ saves than most of the other GKs in the pool with the possible exception of Turner.

The only thing hampering Guzan is his age, at nearly 40. But his play is still pretty exemplary and high level.
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Unintelligent voting precinct procedures!

astonmartin708
lawpoke87 said:
This latest conspiracy theory seems to be pertinent to this discussion

www.newsweek.com

Left-wing "Starlink" election conspiracy theory spreads online

Conspiracy theorists allege that Starlink, a satellite constellation developed by Elon Musk's SpaceX, was connected to voting machines.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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Would be nearly impossible to prove even if it were true.

Sick some journalists and statisticians on it for the next two years... maybe it turns into Watergate but in all likelihood not. I don't want the Dems to sink to the level of the Pubs in calling fouls.
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