Weatherdemon said:

TU opened as an 8 point favorite. It’s up to 10.5.
My wife and I will be there being loud rooting for the win.

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I wish I lived in the Tulsa area. I’d enjoy cheering the team on together. Be extra loud for me Damon. Thanks.

Gmoney4WW said:

I'd like to see that article too.

No comment from you about the report in the Wall Street Journal about exploring whether they can fire 3 and 4 star military officers? That's a pretty respectable media source that doesn't usually put out statements and/or facts they can't verify.

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You do realize Obama fired 197 officers during a five year period? Please read the first paragraph.

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years​

• 07:01 PM ET 10/29/2013

Defense: What the president calls "my military" is being cleansed of any officer suspected of disloyalty to or disagreement with the administration on matters of policy or force structure, leaving the compliant and fearful.









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We recognize President Obama is the commander-in-chief and that throughout history presidents from Lincoln to Truman have seen fit to remove military commanders they view as inadequate or insubordinate. Turnover in the military ranks is normal, and in these times of sequestration and budget cuts the numbers are expected to tick up as force levels shrink and missions change.
Yet what has happened to our officer corps since President Obama took office is viewed in many quarters as unprecedented, baffling and even harmful to our national security posture. We have commented on some of the higher profile cases, such as Gen. Carter Ham. He was relieved as head of U.S. Africa Command after only a year and a half because he disagreed with orders not to mount a rescue mission in response to the Sept. 11, 2012, attack in Benghazi.

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Rear Adm. Chuck Gaouette, commander of the John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group, was relieved in October 2012 for disobeying orders when he sent his group on Sept. 11 to "assist and provide intelligence for" military forces ordered into action by Gen. Ham.
Other removals include the sacking of two nuclear commanders in a single week — Maj. Gen. Michael Carey, head of the 20th Air Force, responsible for the three wings that maintain control of the 450 intercontinental ballistic missiles, and Vice Adm. Tim Giardina, the No. 2 officer at U.S. Strategic Command.

From Breitbart.com's Facebook page comes a list of at least 197 officers that have been relieved of duty by President Obama for a laundry list of reasons and sometimes with no reason given. Stated grounds range from "leaving blast doors on nukes open" to "loss of confidence in command ability" to "mishandling of funds" to "inappropriate relationships" to "gambling with counterfeit chips" to "inappropriate behavior" to "low morale in troops commanded."

Nine senior commanding generals have been fired by the Obama administration this year, leading to speculation by active and retired members of the military that a purge of its commanders is under way.
Retired U.S. Army Maj. Gen. Paul Vallely, an outspoken critic of the Obama administration, notes how the White House fails to take action or investigate its own officials but finds it easy to fire military commanders "who have given their lives for their country." Vallely thinks he knows why this purge is happening.
"Obama will not purge a civilian or political appointee because they have bought into Obama's ideology," Vallely said. "The White House protects their own. That's why they stalled on the investigation into Fast and Furious, Benghazi and ObamaCare. He's intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being purged."

Another senior retired general told TheBlaze on the condition of anonymity, because he still provide services to the government and fears possible retribution, that "they're using the opportunity of the shrinkage of the military to get rid of people that don't agree with them or do not toe the party line. Remember, as (former White House chief of staff) Rahm Emanuel said, never waste a crisis."
For President Obama, the military of a once-feared superpower is an anachronistic vestige of an America whose exceptionalism and world leadership require repeated apologies. It must be gutted and fundamentally transformed into a force wearing gender-neutral headgear only useful for holding the presidential umbrella when it rains. It is to be "his" military and used only for "his" purposes.

lawpoke87 said:

Didn’t see it but that’s an awful and very dangerous precedent.

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Was posted late last night above. Here it is, reposted.

lawpoke87 said:

Thankfully Generals aren’t political appointments. I haven’t seen much support for Trump in either the FBI or upper military brass. Which I submit is a good thing.

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lawpoke87 said:

I’m counting on there being enough disdain for Trump at the highest level of the military that this won’t be an issue. Certainly seems to be the case based on comments made by military brass

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"The sense of mounting chaos was exacerbated by a Wall Street Journal story that the Trump transition team is considering an executive order that would create a “warrior board,” which would have the power to recommend the removal of three- and four-star officers. The story fueled new fears that Trump — who threatened to fire generals wholesale during the campaign — will purge top brass and politicize the military, after mulling on the trail that he could turn its might on his political enemies when in office."
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So what was that you were saying about Generals not being political appointments? Some of my worst fears are being reported and/or strongly considered only a week after the election. I'm sure all the congressmen that stood up to Trump before will not let this happen. Oh wait, they have all pretty much left political office. Gives me great confidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump was asking if they could get Biden out of office before January 20th. Rubio and Wiles are the only respectable staff appointments so far, and now Rubio is possibly being reconsidered because the rabble rousers in the Maga movement are not happy with him.

I forgot about his top National Security Advisor, he seems like a competent and qualified appointment.(Waltz) But Hegseth is not even close to qualified enough to be the Secretary of Defense. The list of the unqualified does not end with Hegseth, there are many more. They've put out what seems like at least 60% of the cabinet so far. I have a feeling the rest of the so called appointments (recess appointments) will be just as scary as the ones he has already put out.

He's even making appointments that have never existed, in Musk & Ramaswamy. They are in charge of what? Eliminating massive amounts of positions and departments? They have said they are going to gut the government, like it's something to be proud of.

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Gmoney4WW said:

I'd like to see that article too.

No comment from you about the report in the Wall Street Journal about exploring whether they can fire 3 and 4 star military officers? That's a pretty respectable media source that doesn't usually put out statements and/or facts they can't verify.

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Didn’t see it but that’s an awful and very dangerous precedent.

Rjjackson4 said:

What is happening to TU football?

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Terrible Head Coach.

I don't know much about ORU outside of McBride. I think we've got some serious athletes on our team this year and if we show improvement like we did from game 1 to 2, I think we pull away and win fairly easily.

lawpoke87 said:

Can you link that article ?

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I'd like to see that article too.

No comment from you about the report in the Wall Street Journal about exploring whether they can fire 3 and 4 star military officers? That's a pretty respectable media source that doesn't usually put out statements and/or facts they can't verify.

Eli and Jesse will not be there. But I heard reports of a Baby Billy sighting!

HuffyCane said:

The supervisor that was fired recently gave an interview stating that the policy of avoiding homes based on perceived political affiliations was also reduced to writing in NC. Put simply, she said she was a patsy for leadership.

In the interview she suggested Congress request specific documents related to the training and supervision of workers in NC which she says contained similar instructions and were circulated throughout NC.

And there may be legs to it. At the time, the Washington Post reported in October that FEMA and the U.S. Forest discontinued service door to door, their typical method, in large parts of NC after claiming in an email to other government agencies, without evidence or any confirmation from DOD or law enforcement, that National Guard personnel encountered “two army trucks of militia who claimed they were out hunting FEMA.”

Both local and federal law enforcement quickly determined these reports to be false.

FEMA to date has not offered an explanation for the publication of the unconfirmed information later determined to be false. Or why door to door service did not resume.

Local commentators have pointed out that these actions make it less likely for some victims to come forward, further breeds government distrust, and reduces the amount of aid injected into the economy to help the public recover.

Which has the same practical effect of skipping doors.

It will be interesting if Congress remains focused on this issue.

This reminds me of the Obama era DHS blunder where they published that absurd report that said because some extremists are veterans, all veterans may be extremists.

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This sounds like something that can't be proven , with reports circulating online upon which one side can make claims , but never show proof. You know what that is don't you. I'll wait for Congress to give me a full report.

astonmartin708 said:

Meanwhile…. In Moscow, the Russian intelligence chief is making veiled comments that Trump benefited from Russian help in the election and that he needs to repay the favor…

“The election campaign is over. To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.”

Nice to know that the President of the United States has himself caught up in a mafia-esque extortion racquet with the Soviets…. he’s Putin’s bitch and he’s being reminded of it.

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Can you link that article ?

Meanwhile…. In Moscow, the Russian intelligence chief is making veiled comments that Trump benefited from Russian help in the election and that he needs to repay the favor…

“The election campaign is over. To achieve success in the election, Donald Trump relied on certain forces to which he has corresponding obligations. As a responsible person, he will be obliged to fulfill them.”

Nice to know that the President of the United States has himself caught up in a mafia-esque extortion racquet with the Soviets…. he’s Putin’s bitch and he’s being reminded of it.

Gmoney4WW said:

Who cares.

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Kamala ?

TU -10 sounds like a good spread. ORU lost to Minnesota by 23 in their opening.

lawpoke87 said:

Harris trying to raise money for recounts ?

Harris fundraising page says a portion of donations will be directed to recount effort

A portion of donations made to the Harris Victory Fund will be directed towards a recount effort, according to its fundraising page.

www.usatoday.com

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Who cares.

I predict the oru students will do the stupid TU sucks chant

I predict to be there with my mom and brother-in-law.

TU opened as an 8 point favorite. It’s up to 10.5.
My wife and I will be there being loud rooting for the win.

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Harris trying to raise money for recounts ?

Bill Lowery said:

I followed the game and wondered why Zach Reinhardt, who scored 15 pts
with 4 rbs and 3-6 from 3-pt range against us, only played 2 minutes against USF. This morning I found out he was ejected for a foul. He was a key player for them against us.

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They had a fight between him and some of the usf players

College athletes in those sports where roster limits are being imposed are now being told there will be roster cuts going into next year. I’ve been told most colleges are going to fulfill their money commitment to the kids but not guarantee a roster spot

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