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Updating the cost of climate change

HuffyCane
“Los Angeles weather is the weather of catastrophe, of apocalypse, and, just as the reliably long and bitter winters of New England determine the way life is lived there, so the violence and the unpredictability of the Santa Ana affect the entire quality of life in Los Angeles, accentuate its impermanence, its unreliability. The winds shows us how close to the edge we are.” Joan Didion, 1968, decades before “climate change” and smack dab in the middle of the era where scientists were telling me we were 20 years from another Ice Age.
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Updating the cost of climate change

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watu05 said:
The issue is what caused the fires and continues to feed them. No municipal fire system was designed to deal with first like this. It will cost billions and billions to cope with these disasters and more to come as the climate continues to change. Whining about water systems is just another distraction from the larger problem.

As I've said, I suspect the insurance industry will be the vehicle for change as insurance companies find they cannot survive the risks that climate change creates. Florida and now California are on notice. Premiums in general are going up along with increasing denials of coverage in all parts of the country. But maybe it will be another unsupportable cost? Who knows? But the costs of denial will outweigh those of addressing the core issue.
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We better address measures to best deal with climate change because there is very little the US can do to control the same. World CO2 emissions aren’t going down and there’s not a damn thing the US can do about it. Not properly planning for predictable acts like fires in Southern California must be the focus as it’s the one thing we do have some control over. I see Newsome wants answers as to why there wasn’t water available to fight these fires. Assume people(s) will lose their jobs over this. Gavin wants a scapegoat
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Updating the cost of climate change

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lawpoke87 said:
The left blaming the destruction scale on climate change and giving those in charge a pass as sad as it is predictable. They come to the defense of each other like no other group. Disinformation at its finest boys. When the municipality can’t get water to the burning neighborhoods it’s the fault to those who maintain the pumps and lines…period. But let’s ignore that and go back to the ole climate change crap
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The issue is what caused the fires and continues to feed them. No municipal fire system was designed to deal with first like this. It will cost billions and billions to cope with these disasters and more to come as the climate continues to change. Whining about water systems is just another distraction from the larger problem.

As I've said, I suspect the insurance industry will be the vehicle for change as insurance companies find they cannot survive the risks that climate change creates. Florida and now California are on notice. Premiums in general are going up along with increasing denials of coverage in all parts of the country. But maybe it will be another unsupportable cost? Who knows? But the costs of denial will outweigh those of addressing the core issue.
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Updating the cost of climate change

HuffyCane
lawpoke87 said:
Pubs and Dems are both at fault regarding messaging. Pubs tend to deny that events were cause by climate change while Dems claim every event was caused by climate change. I read an article yesterday claiming the cold surge into the south this path week was caused by….you guessed it….climate change. I tend to view the picture on the whole and opposed to individual events. Bottom line is we need to readjust budgets and policies with climate change in mind. California needs to be prepared when fire season comes around to fight fires including mitigation efforts year round. I would guess the cost to California and the country if this latest fire would have paid for years of mitigation work there. We’re somewhat fortunate not to have recently experienced a drastic climate event which jeopardized our food supply ala the dust bowl. Those came without climate change so I would imagine it will be worst now. It’s not a matter of if but when. I don’t believe we’re prepared
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The Dust Bowl was caused by human hubris. As was this event. Anybody bothering to listen or check has been told since the 1950’s that these weather conditions would lead to a fire event like what we’ve seen in parts of the affected area. More water could have saved some. Better forest management and less red tape might have saved some. But blaming this event on climate change or the Governor is like blaming Katrina on Bush and/or Nagin.

Any different analysis leads to a conclusion based on a sickness: that government can control all outcomes and has a duty to protect us from our own greed.
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This is the Republican Party

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Why don't you go private? No one is forcing you to be in Medicare. Instead of a civil servant denying your access to care, you can have someone who earns a bonus from limiting your access or maybe an AI designed to reduce your access to care. When Medicare was enacted, it was strongly opposed by conservatives and the AMA as socialism; it's relatively recently that the AMA and conservatives who use it have become supportive. But hey, the Donald and the Doge boys will inevitably mess with Medicare. Most likely by expanding Medicare Advantage as a "cost saving measure". Given the Advantage Plans' record to date, it will cost a lot more, greatly increase the paperwork and permissions to obtain procedures, and increase the % of denials for procedures. But most importantly, it will also increase the share price of United Healthcare and other Advantage Plan managers.
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