astonmartin708 said:

The most difficult part about this has really been humor. I was in trainings alongside guys from the lower to middle rungs of the business. They said they would regularly poke fun at each other for various reasons, sometimes for stereotypes, but they also said they had worked together on the same crew for 40+ years and had been to many family gatherings and had to trust each other with their lives on a day to day basis.

But when an outsider heard some of the ways they talked to each other they might be somewhat appalled, even knowing it was in jest, because a newcomer to that part of the organization might not know how to deal with it.

I do think there needs to be some programs on some people having a bit thicker skin and knowing that even when someone might say something you initially perceive as hurtful, that it may not meant to be taken in the way you have perceived it. The hard part is to tell the difference between when you need to stand up for yourself and when you should allow it to slide.

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aTUfan said:

dei is like minim wage;
productivity, reliability and value to the organization are not part of the equation.

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dougheffking said:

They're such a massive group of clowns.

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goldenhurricane2 said:

Oru fans: this isn’t our Super Bowl!

Oru fans on their message board:

“It seems early in the season, but the Super Bowl is already here (Mayor’s Cup)!”

Lol they are also mad no one really talked about the game over here beforehand… we didn’t talk about Arkansas Pine bluff or NSU much either - basically the same caliber of team.

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goldenhurricane2 said:

Oru fans: this isn’t our Super Bowl!

Oru fans on their message board:

“It seems early in the season, but the Super Bowl is already here (Mayor’s Cup)!”

Lol they are also mad no one really talked about the game over here beforehand… we didn’t talk about Arkansas Pine bluff or NSU much either - basically the same caliber of team.

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TU_BLA said:

You're 100% correct. I'm not a theologian at all, never even took a modern religion class. Most of my Christian beliefs have probably been formed in the last 10-15 years. So many scriptures are taken out of context and bastardized. The prosperity gospel is one. The I Corinthians 13:4- passage about love gets co-opted as a passage about marital love when it's really a passage about how to love your fellow man (you know, the Love Thy Neighbor commandment that Jesus said is 2nd only to Love God). And the evangelicals think that Christianity is about keeping a scorecard and checking off boxes to get into heaven when reality is, all you have to do is be a good person (controversial, I know). This is why they keep bringing up isolated scriptures in their blasting of LGBTQ folks.

Anyway, my time at ORU was a good thing for parts but I also learned thing and became a little jaded towards evangelicalism at the same time. The number of times I heard "I thought this was supposed to be a Christian school" when someone didn't get their way was enough to make me want to destroy my ear drums with an ice pick.

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libertychamp said:

If we lose to #257 Oru and #148 Tuisa continues our losing streak does konkol need to be replaced?

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TULSARISING said:

As a Christian myself ( which means we know we are not perfect or anywhere close to it which is why I need Christ ,think is forgotten about way too much ) I couldn’t agree more . There are so many of these “ churches” that just want to make money off of hurting people looking for hope , it’s a horrible thing. People like Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copeland are examples of this.
Ps - not trying to shove my beliefs on anyone , just wanted to point out how many misuse the Church

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drboobay said:

I agree such programs probably exist.

But there are many programs that are really about accepting one another in a genuine way at work.

I have heard some very brave employees speak about how they have been shunned in life, sometimes by their own families, who feel they are genuinely part of our team. It is moving and makes me proud to work for my employer. These are really talented and hard working folks too. So the only favor we are providing is insisting on treating effective employees with appropriate dignity and inclusion.

So casually dismissing DEI is a bit tough for me to take. The devil is in the details.

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lawpoke87 said:

Do reasonable people believe acceptance of our differences is a bad idea? Inclusion is a good thing. DEI gets murky when people are hired or promoted due to their amount of melanin in their skin. Makes for a lengthy discussion with many complexities. Pros and cons on both sides.

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