2024 Election prediction/discussion
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Oh boy….another Hitler reference.
Oh boy, another lobster who doesn't recognize they're in a pot of boiling water.
Oh boy….another Hitler reference.
Oh boy….another Hitler reference.Reads like you're more interested in the mechanics of elections than if the candidate you support and their policies are actually good for the United States. Conragts, you're a political operator. We get it. So was Goebbels.
I think he has been involved with politics. Too much arguing in politics. Too much trying to persuade people rather than doing real workReads like you're more interested in the mechanics of elections than if the candidate you support and their policies are actually good for the United States. Conragts, you're a political operator. We get it. So was Goebbels.
I’ve talked for months that Harris was simply an awful candidate. She was awful in the 2020 primary and history repeated itself as it often does. Just a bad move by the Dems. Looking forward to national vote numbers tomorrow to see if the Dem defeat tonight was due to Pubs voting above 2020 numbers or Dems just not showing up to support a bad candidate.I’m not so sure. I want to see the numbers first. W “won” the Hispanic vote with 40%. But he spoke Spanish, as does his wife and a good portion of his family. And he had a Mexican-American sister-in-law helping him stump and raise money.
If Trump outperforms him, I’ll listen to arguments on a shift.
If she loses, the story will be that she didn’t have time to develop her message.
The reality is that the fundamentals didn’t favor her with inflation, the retreat from Afghanistan and real weakness in opportunities for young men in our society.
Top that off with the fact that she just wasn’t a good candidate. She’s not good at it. Appears incapable of relaxing or delivering concise answers. Refused to discuss any plans. Not really inspiring. Not as bad as Clinton, but up there. They needed a retail politician to overcome inflation. They selected maybe the worst choice for that out of the dozen or so contenders.
Reads like you're more interested in the mechanics of elections than if the candidate you support and their policies are actually good for the United States. Conragts, you're a political operator. We get it. So was Goebbels.I’m not so sure. I want to see the numbers first. W “won” the Hispanic vote with 40%. But he spoke Spanish, as does his wife and a good portion of his family. And he had a Mexican-American sister-in-law helping him stump and raise money.
If Trump outperforms him, I’ll listen to arguments on a shift.
If she loses, the story will be that she didn’t have time to develop her message.
The reality is that the fundamentals didn’t favor her with inflation, the retreat from Afghanistan and real weakness in opportunities for young men in our society.
Top that off with the fact that she just wasn’t a good candidate. She’s not good at it. Appears incapable of relaxing or delivering concise answers. Refused to discuss any plans. Not really inspiring. Not as bad as Clinton, but up there. They needed a retail politician to overcome inflation. They selected maybe the worst choice for that out of the dozen or so contenders.
Except when it could mean voting in a fascist. Not the time to protest vote.Minorities have decades of experience with government policies failing them. Demanding change at the voting booth is a positive imo as is holding elected officials accountable. Hopefully this can be a message sent to our elected officials.
I’m not so sure. I want to see the numbers first. W “won” the Hispanic vote with 40%. But he spoke Spanish, as does his wife and a good portion of his family. And he had a Mexican-American sister-in-law helping him stump and raise money.Not that I think Trump should have been their outlet but I am glad to see minorities are finally realizing the years and years of Dem policies have failed them and voted for a change.
Harris only winning Hispanics by 8 points is a seismic political shift.
Minorities have decades of experience with government policies failing them. Demanding change at the voting booth is a positive imo as is holding elected officials accountable. Hopefully this can be a message sent to our elected officials.Just wait.
You forget that Trump is a con artist and a salesman who fundamentally doesn't understand how to run the government successfully. All sales are final. If you don't think he will manage to screw his term up, you're in for a surprise.
I was just thinking this lawpoke as I was tossing and turning in bed.Not that I think Trump should have been their outlet but I am glad to see minorities are finally realizing the years and years of Dem policies have failed them and voted for a change.
Harris only winning Hispanics by 8 points is a seismic political shift.
Just wait.Not that I think Trump should have been their outlet but I am glad to see minorities are finally realizing the years and years of Dem policies have failed them and voted for a change.
Not that I think Trump should have been their outlet but I am glad to see minorities are finally realizing the years and years of Dem policies have failed them and voted for a change.Did you miss Trump sneakers? His befriending nuts like Kanye? His kissing small black children on stage?
All of it was aimed to make him look more friendly to minorities.... not of it actually meant anything, and he has no intent to actually make a positive difference in any of their lives.
Well...I don't think he really cares about anyone else - minorities, Klansman, churchgoers, atheists, the AARP - none of them. He is driven by insecurity, need for power, and fear of being jailed.Did you miss Trump sneakers? His befriending nuts like Kanye? His kissing small black children on stage?
All of it was aimed to make him look more friendly to minorities.... not of it actually meant anything, and he has no intent to actually make a positive difference in any of their lives.
Did you miss Trump sneakers? His befriending nuts like Kanye? His kissing small black children on stage?That might be the single most partisan delusional statement I’ve ever heard from you. Guess you missed all the “free giveaways” Harris promised directly to minorities?
That might be the single most partisan delusional statement I’ve ever heard from you. Guess you missed all the “free giveaways” Harris promised directly to minorities?It's pandering when you make disingenuous overtures with no intent to take action. Yes, I think he was the candidate who pandered.
It's pandering when you make disingenuous overtures with no intent to take action. Yes, I think he was the candidate who pandered.You think Trump was the candidate who pandered to minorities? WOW.
You think Trump was the candidate who pandered to minorities? WOW.He certainly put in a lot of work pandering to them. Congratulations?
Meh, I don't think several of the Graham teams beat the 2012 or 2016 teams.Well yes, the 2020 team had a better defense. But the Graham led teams were much better overall than anything we’ve had since.
I am genuinely worried about the continuation of the America that I have known in my 59 years versus slippage into an Orban style authoritarian regime.Cool. You supported a convict who tried (in absentia) to violently overthrow the US government. I don't care if 95% of the country voted for him, it's still despicable.
You're over here spouting stats like "Mr. Putin won districts that had been +40 for Yeltsin".
Cool. You supported a convict who tried (in absentia) to violently overthrow the US government. I don't care if 95% of the country voted for him, it's still despicable.We talked about his surprisingly strong showing across several majority Hispanic counties back in 2020. He flipped counties that were +35 Hillary to +20 Trump against Biden. So that’s not a surprise.
We talked about his surprisingly strong showing across several majority Hispanic counties along the border back in 2020. He flipped counties that were +35 Hillary to +5 Trump against Biden. So that’s not a surprise. It’s why, in part, Biden suddenly started talking about building the wall and moving job programs supporting border security to that area of Texas last year. Which we covered here this time last year.Trump is running far ahead of his 2016 and 2020 numbers in places like New York and New Jersey. Curious to see how he runs on the west coast. He’s running double digits above his past numbers with minorities. Who would have thought ?
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I think it showd two things.He certainly put in a lot of work pandering to them. Congratulations?
He certainly put in a lot of work pandering to them. Congratulations?Trump is running far ahead of his 2016 and 2020 numbers in places like New York and New Jersey. Curious to see how he runs on the west coast. He’s running double digits above his past numbers with minorities. Who would have thought ?