Let’s all be nice to each other. We should all be TU fans at heart. Let’s hope for what’s best for the kids of Tulsa no matter what clubs they play for. TSC was great for my son. Leo was great. Other clubs have good coaches. Yes, it’s a money source for some but some do it for the kids. Let’s all try to take the high ground and hope everyone’s heart is in the right place. I can promise you the golf instructor’s pocket book is in the right place……
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They need the facilities for training and games. And BASC has the best grass fields available as well as 4 full size turf fields. And TSC is one of the largest rec programs in the area and you can bet JM and Nsien are going to pull the better players over. It will be interesting to see how the BA Express kids are treated and evaluated. Many of those kids are quality players and you probably have an ECNL/MLS Next kid in the mix there but they play in BA because the per month costs to the parents are kept low. TSC used to have this partnership and Barry tanked it for some reason. It was even originally billed as a pipeline to competitive soccer for the BASC rec kids. Heck Tina was out there one year doing a clinic for girls who wanted to try...my daughter went out there. She was 6. And then we figured out she had no desire to play soccer, but she was all about the pink soccer ball, the pink cleats, the pink shinguards. My daughter was all about soccer fashion 😆 😆 😆 😆 . That was hosted out at BASC. JM did a couple clinics out there for the rec kids. I know it was all about ID'ing kids to get into the TSC pipeline at a younger age.
Speaking of TSC, I am doing 6 games this weekend for the TSC tournament. I'm doing 2 HS games tonight in Cleveland. And I'm currently sitting in the Nashville airport. I hope my legs make it
You god damn right we are.
I live in Jenks. I get a chuckle reading our local bitching boards about the “traffic” uh yeah. Get real. You people know nothing. This city has a handful of places with traffic.
169 and BA at 5pm.
Owasso heading north on 169 at 5pm
Glenpool i75
I think the exits on 71st and 169 and memorial and creek have improved dramatically from their traffic heights since they fixed up those exits and entrances.
Other than that, there really isn't much.
The 71st and riverside is just kind of slow. Like 5 mins. That isn't real traffic. There are just lots of cars.
From where I live, BASC and Indian springs are equally as long to get to.
Also: I’m told that a TSC girls coach had all the girls circle up and asked them if they were training else where and at which clubs.
The girls should have gathered the TSC girls coaches together and asked them how many of you have reached out to other clubs about coaching positions and which clubs have you specifically contacted. I assure you hands would go up. Cyp and Nathan both know their NL players are gone. Not sure what the point is of putting them on the spot
It’s mid April and TSC still hasn’t announced their coaches on the girls side
I saw Barry several times this weekend...he actually looked defeated.
Several referees commented on how small the TSC tournament was this year...especially the older age groups which used to draw 200 hundred teams from 7-8 different states. At best I saw a few times from Arkansas, a few from Missouri, some from the KC area, and a handful from TX. Most teams were pretty local (2 hr drives or less, so OKC, NW Arkansas and a ton of Tulsa area teams). The quality of teams wasn't terrible. My daughter had the whistle for a U8 4v4 game and the two teams were pretty darn good for that age and she had to make a few foul calls. (She did great BTW and there weren't any audible grumblings).
1 U16 match I was watching had 10 yellow cards and 1 Red Card. I saw 4-5 of the YCs issued, all legit.
I didn't have to issue any cards...it would suck to have to flash one to a 9 year old 😆
Several referees commented on how small the TSC tournament was this year...especially the older age groups which used to draw 200 hundred teams from 7-8 different states. At best I saw a few times from Arkansas, a few from Missouri, some from the KC area, and a handful from TX. Most teams were pretty local (2 hr drives or less, so OKC, NW Arkansas and a ton of Tulsa area teams). The quality of teams wasn't terrible. My daughter had the whistle for a U8 4v4 game and the two teams were pretty darn good for that age and she had to make a few foul calls. (She did great BTW and there weren't any audible grumblings).
1 U16 match I was watching had 10 yellow cards and 1 Red Card. I saw 4-5 of the YCs issued, all legit.
I didn't have to issue any cards...it would suck to have to flash one to a 9 year old 😆
That sucks because TSC has the best tournaments in Tulsa by miles. It is terrible these are being diminished because of the state they are in.
Go look at the lineup for next weekend at WSA Cup they might have 3 teams from out of state and maybe 10 that aren't local and another 10 that aren't WSA.
Go look at the lineup for next weekend at WSA Cup they might have 3 teams from out of state and maybe 10 that aren't local and another 10 that aren't WSA.
I watched the 2nd half of the Girls 2013's game against Energy (#1 Energy and #2 TSC) TSC controlled the game and won 3-1. I heard the tournament was up 15-20 teams ( I didn't count). Place was packed. I've never seen people parked on the East side of Elwood before and I live only a mile from there.
There were 56 girls teams entered. No idea on the boys side.
Entering as TSC 2013 Pre-ECNL made me chuckle btw
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The complex was packed but remember that this tournament usually split between Scheel's and Mohawk with the showcase teams (U15-19) being exclusively at Mohawk and the younger groups being at Scheel's). All teams were at Scheel's this time around. and there were far fewer of the older age group teams than in the past and more younger teams. The 2 TSC tournaments were among the premier regional events in this area. A lot of the teams that used to travel from KC, StL, TN, and the Austin/Houston areas no longer come because of the cancellation last Spring after 3 drops of rain fell. A lot of referees who travel to the tournament stopped doing so, and in my conversations with other refs yesterday, there's probably a lot of local referees who won't do it anymore, many citing lack of support from TSC higher ups (i.e. not enforcing red card suspensions for coaches...I was AR on a U19 game and the coach from the team from Arkansas received a RC on Saturday, known because the other AR had centered that game and issued the RC; and the ref was told it was fine that he was on the sideline....and he kept on bitching the entire game too despite the fact his team got thoroughly outplayed and gave up on the game about 60 minutes in).
Plus quite a few referees showed up for their scheduled games only to be told those games no longer existed on the TSC schedule but TSC didn't bother to give the assigners an updated schedule so it was still on the referees' schedules. I had one of those and I was pretty pissed that they wasted my time with it.
Remember just a few years ago TSC had between 400-500 teams for its Spring tournament.
TSC advertises over 300 teams attend. No chance they got close to that number this year with 56 total on the girls side. Not much good news these days at TSC
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I agree; it seemed like there were far fewer older teams, and none of the top TSC teams participated.
You can be quite amusing sometimes. A rainout led them to cancel indefinitely. Did you speak directly with the Directors at Solar, NOKC, ESC, Renegades, BVB, or OEFC? I have coaching friends who have faced similar situations in baseball and soccer. I’m sure one year has caused some issues, but many of the NOKC club parents who publicly complained on Facebook after that still sent their same teams from out of town.
I have some questions:
Why don’t these teams attend the WSA tournaments?
Which of the Nine WSA intra-club scrimmages, with an admission fee of $800, should they participate in?
Can I criticize a "non-profit" that significantly supports a university known for financial misconduct involving its founder?
It’s all justified because there are 40-foot praying hands in front of it, right?
Who wins out on girl players now NL is there, Rhein bros or Praying Hands bros?
Will WSA be pissed when Tulsa finally makes the right move dismisses Rhein broskey #1?
Will Rhein broskey #1 go back to rocking out as the Bixby's head coach and achieving two semifinals in 13 years?
When Rhein Broskey #1 is dismissed, will TU be allowed on Bush's hallowed self-named complex? Will it then be self-before-side?
#justDrseussing
Blitz's tournaments seem to be growing slightly, but they still aren't of the same caliber.
Is there a group of referees holdouts due to a lack of support? I’d love to know who is spreading that around?
Our games were set for Monday and did not change. I didn’t hear anyone among the teams mention any issues. Granted, I mostly interact with the younger teams, but you make it sound like it was everywhere.
Again, last Spring , it rained for like 15 minutes on Sunday morning and they canceled the remainder of the day after the 7:30am time slot at Scheel's and Barry threw the owner of the complex under the bus.
And for the record, I am not a WSA guy, I'm not a TSC guy, nor a Blitz guy. My son played at TSC for many years and finished playing fo Blitz. While I disagreed with a lot of the stupid petty politics about why x kid got moved up and others didn't at both places, I can say my son always had solid coaching and he played with good groups of kids which made for a good overall experience at both. He considered moving to WSA one year and it didn't feel right to him (his words, his decision).
That said, you're 100% right on a lot of your WSA analysis of tournaments and the Bushes. I worked with Ryan at ORU and he was a lot easier to handle than Roger was.
It wasn't last spring it was Nov of 2013. I'm not a TSC, Blitz or WSA person my son played for TSC and I'm really good friends with the owner of Scheels. (I also live less than a mile from there). My son plays golf now but I'm still interested in what goes on. I hear he is thinking about building an indoor facility at the corner of 101st and Elwood. It would service bathrooms for south fields (do away with portable) and potentially a snack bar in that building as well. As well small turf field that can convert to Futsal. Only takes 2 things......Time and $$$$
Scheel's is almost there in terms of being the best in the state. Still too many bare patches on the grass fields for my liking. He'd be well-served to install full on irrigation and begin an overhaul of the grass fields 1 by 1 with a slightly better quality grass. I'd also like to see a permanent building/meeting room that could serve as a referee facility during big game weekends, like this past weekend. The tent is so cheesy and invites way too many people to think they can just pop in and bitch about the officials. Edmond's new building has a fantastic referee "locker" room complete with a couple of private bathrooms and an office for the assignor. I'm sure they also use it for coaches' meetings. BASC has a nice room but it is largely too small for the number of referees we're talking about.
I will say, I did enjoy the fact that the time slots this weekend were 2 hr slots and not just 1:30 which a lot of tournaments are running to squeeze in more games. As a ref, games frequently get behind schedule for whatever reason, and if you are moving from one field to the next, while having to go back and turn in game cards, and check that you are not wearing the same color as the 2 teams playing, it usually gets you more behind. The WSA Showcase in January was trying to run 40 minute halves for U13 and above on 1:30 timeslots meaning if you got behind any time at all, and you were now behind the rest of the afternoon. The 2 hours slots gave you time to get some water, a snack, debrief with your crew, and file any RC reports if you had that unfortunateness of issuing a RC during a game.
There were also some wonky field layouts. They had a field tucked on the north side and the touchline was about 3 feet below the rest of the field. It was a 9v9 field. With the wind blowing from the south, it was virtually impossible to keep the ball in play once it got to within 6-8 ft of the touchline. My daughter ran that line on a game and she said her calves were sore afterwards because she had to lean forward to keep from falling backwards. A lot of fields have slopes on the sides to help water run off, but this one was extreme.
Union boys with a huge 2-0 win over Jenks tonight to move to 10-1 on the season. That’s the good news. Bad news for Union is their captain and CB looks like he either broke his arm or dislocated his elbow. Lengthy delay to get him in an air cast and his arm immobilized and carted off. I’ve known him for a few years and he’s a good kid, really bright kid and a hell if a soccer player. He missed the last 6 games including the playoffs last year due to a concussion, so this sucks for him.
I think I saw on this Jenks broadcast that Jenks is now 3-8 on the season.
Girls varsity fixture had Jenks win 4-0. Majority of the game played in Union’s end. It could have been worse too if the Union GK hadn’t played really well.
I think I saw on this Jenks broadcast that Jenks is now 3-8 on the season.
Girls varsity fixture had Jenks win 4-0. Majority of the game played in Union’s end. It could have been worse too if the Union GK hadn’t played really well.
Which is directly contrasted to a conversation I had with him last Fall at the Blitz tournament. He said he was done with the politics and controlling nature of clubs and wanting to dictate how he coached his teams and where he could bring his teams to play in leagues and tournaments. He just wanted to coach and teach players and didn't want to charge them. I know he had his own teams independent of clubs and he said he just charges them to cover league/referee fees and tournament entries. He said he wasn't getting paid, just reimbursed for his travel.
He's a good technical coach just like all the Carrenos are.
I was once told by an old time soccer coach….”if you don’t want to deal with poor coaching and questionable personnel decisions don’t have your kid play high school soccer”
lol. No reason to play high school soccer other than fun and school pride. College scouts aren’t flocking to Oklahoma high school soccer contests. I assume training in Edmond and playing high school is a lot. My kid couldn’t do it with Dallas.
All that said….tell her to go out and win a state title for the Spartans . My daughter and I watch most of the games
It actually hasn’t been that bad. She only has to go Edmond twice a week and then all the Energy players in Tulsa train at Samba together one day a week. And bc of HS is playing right now, right now they only have practice once a week in Edmond. She’s been invited to some camps. And the coaches told us that a long time ago. I think it’s all social for them.
I’ve never seen coaches restrict players like they do here. I doubt Jenks is doing it this way. My sister’s both played HS and NCAA and they are shocked.
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