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That was some real stuff back then.

We had Real sweepers.

You could pass it back to the keepers and pick it up.

None of this flat back 4, false nine.

Keepers had to be able to throw and stuff. '

The world was better then. We weren't even compromised with Coors yellow bellies here.
Sweepers seemed to be all the rage back in the 90s. Now you really don't see them anymore. Mickey Eklund used on on his 06 Sheffield team. His formation was like a 1-3-4-2. Unfortunately, at U13/U14 the boys haven't quite picked up on it that with a sweeper sitting deep they can push the behind the line of defenders wide and you can put the other team in a whole lot of hurt if you're bold enough to play two behind them and keep them wide. I could hear my son's coach yelling for the 2 outside forwards to push high and beyond the 3 defenders and he would ask the 9 to drop and stay in front of the C of that line. The outside forwards feel uncomfortable pushing that high because they feel like they're offside because they can't really see the sweeper sitting deep...it just throws them off (especially at that age).
 
I don't know where the whole decision on who in Tulsa gets NL, but if it's WSA, they have a ton of work to do in player development. I refereed a good number of games this weekend for the U15-U19 age groups, and most of the teams were RL teams at WSA, so their highest groups. Maybe 1 team (08G) is anywhere close to being NL quality but I don't think they'd do well in the Texas league at all. And I think everyone would assume all the girls from TSC would move over but that would create issues...pretty sure WSA isn't going to abandon a majority of the girls currently in the mix, because they'll leave for one of the other clubs if they do.
 
I don't know where the whole decision on who in Tulsa gets NL, but if it's WSA, they have a ton of work to do in player development. I refereed a good number of games this weekend for the U15-U19 age groups, and most of the teams were RL teams at WSA, so their highest groups. Maybe 1 team (08G) is anywhere close to being NL quality but I don't think they'd do well in the Texas league at all. And I think everyone would assume all the girls from TSC would move over but that would create issues...pretty sure WSA isn't going to abandon a majority of the girls currently in the mix, because they'll leave for one of the other clubs if they do.
Did you hear TSC is losing NL?
 
I don't know where the whole decision on who in Tulsa gets NL, but if it's WSA, they have a ton of work to do in player development. I refereed a good number of games this weekend for the U15-U19 age groups, and most of the teams were RL teams at WSA, so their highest groups. Maybe 1 team (08G) is anywhere close to being NL quality but I don't think they'd do well in the Texas league at all. And I think everyone would assume all the girls from TSC would move over but that would create issues...pretty sure WSA isn't going to abandon a majority of the girls currently in the mix, because they'll leave for one of the other clubs if they do.
Those WSA girls who don’t make the NL roster would still be playing at the same level they are now…ECRL. Not sure I would call that being abandoned. Unless TSC retains ECRL there would be nowhere for those WSA girls to go and stay at their current level. Seeing most of the WSA girls left TSC I’m not sure why they would go back and play the same level they are offered at WSA.

Aside from the 09s, the NL girls teams at TSC are considerably better than their WSA RL counterparts. WSA will want to win. They will take those NL TSC girls imo

TSC and WSA fate regarding NL should be announced this month.
 
Did you hear TSC is losing NL?
I don't know but there's speculation from others on the board closer to that situation.

Personally I don't know how WSA would be considered for NL. Facilities are crap to be honest. and the team quality is definitely not there and basing an NL bid off of poaching players from the club losing NL is weird to me. The quality should be there and if NL came and saw what WSA has right now, it's just not there right now.

I know Lawpoke thinks the WSA players playing RL would stick around but I don't think they will if WSA just takes all of the girls from TSC NL and bumps the WSA girls who are currently the top team and now they're being bumped to 2nd team. Sure they're the same "level" but there is a pride thing in play and there's a perception that loyalty from the club for the players who have stuck with WSA should be factored in (parents and players). They will have more players who leave the club than stay on those teams just to spite WSA for being slighted.
 
I don't know where the whole decision on who in Tulsa gets NL, but if it's WSA, they have a ton of work to do in player development. I refereed a good number of games this weekend for the U15-U19 age groups, and most of the teams were RL teams at WSA, so their highest groups. Maybe 1 team (08G) is anywhere close to being NL quality but I don't think they'd do well in the Texas league at all. And I think everyone would assume all the girls from TSC would move over but that would create issues...pretty sure WSA isn't going to abandon a majority of the girls currently in the mix, because they'll leave for one of the other clubs if they do.
Did I not make this apparent on these threads? I thought I said this same thing in at least three or four different places on this thread.
 
I believe ECNL wants to keep an NL club in Tulsa and the only realistic option other than TSC is WSA as they are the only ECRL club on this side of the state.
 
I don't know but there's speculation from others on the board closer to that situation.

Personally I don't know how WSA would be considered for NL. Facilities are crap to be honest. and the team quality is definitely not there and basing an NL bid off of poaching players from the club losing NL is weird to me. The quality should be there and if NL came and saw what WSA has right now, it's just not there right now.

I know Lawpoke thinks the WSA players playing RL would stick around but I don't think they will if WSA just takes all of the girls from TSC NL and bumps the WSA girls who are currently the top team and now they're being bumped to 2nd team. Sure they're the same "level" but there is a pride thing in play and there's a perception that loyalty from the club for the players who have stuck with WSA should be factored in (parents and players). They will have more players who leave the club than stay on those teams just to spite WSA for being slighted.
I don’t necessarily think pride will be an issue, most of the girls playing RL at WSA are playing RL for a reason, and that is not knock on the those players. If WSA gets NL they will have to win to keep it, they will gladly take all of TSC’s NL players if that gives them better odds of winning. What I do agree with are WSA’s terrible facilities and why any team in the Texas conference would agree to play at any of WSA field options.
 
I believe ECNL wants to keep an NL club in Tulsa and the only realistic option other than TSC is WSA as they are the only ECRL club on this side of the state.

Blitz has RL, but their top team plays in Frontier conference.
 
There is a lot more to NL selection than standings. Facilities, how the club treats visiting clubs, etc.
 
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There is a lot more to NL selection that standings. Facilities, how the club treats visiting clubs, etc.
You’ve either talked to someone in the know or have seen the rating questionnaires. 100% correct. There’s also factors like quality of club leadership, retention of coaches, retention of players, club size, etc…
 
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My 2Cents...... I think TSC goes on probation this year and that leads to either a merger or no NL in Tulsa for 2026.
 
My 2Cents...... I think TSC goes on probation this year and that leads to either a merger or no NL in Tulsa for 2026.
Very possible. I’m almost certain TSC will either go on probation or outright lose NL for next season. I’m leaning toward the latter but I could see ECNL taking the cautious path. Probation for NL is just prolonging the inevitable for an additional year imo.
 
Girls side is the only issue. Boys side is fine in NL. Could they just lose girls?
I was told it’s all or nothing but who knows if that’s accurate. TSC had talked about filing separate charters with ECNL (boys and girls) a few years back to insulate the boys side from the poor results on the girls side. No idea if that ever occurred.

I’ve always thought if this did occur that TSC would work something out with MLS Next 2 for the boys and basically sacrifice the girls side in GA.
 
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