Youth soccer club
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Mtsc is still pretty popular here, right?
My daughter played rec soccer a while ago.
I’m not around traditional youth sports enough to know, but I will say: I can’t recall any friends whose kids play basketball / baseball talking about the boys and girls club anymore. They’re all playing club / travel ball too.
South Country Soccer in Glenpool is definitely rec as well. Assume there are others around.
Bixby has a youth baseball league which is 100% rec. Assume there are others as well.
Indian nations always had what I would consider rec basketball. Assume they’re still around
Baseball. I tried to get my kid on a little league team and it was just awful. His team had kids thrown together while the other 3 teams in the league were all competitive teams that were using this league as their practice for competitive season. Because of this, the kids on the throw together team, didn't have any fun and dreaded games.
I think soccer is somewhat healthy at the younger ages but by the time you hit 11v11 there aren't a ton of those teams in the rec/rec+ leagues and many of the kids who could afford to have moved to Blitz/WSA/TSC who put them on lower teams and treat them like rec players while charging them academy fees. Football is fine, especially around Tulsa because there are so many kids playing and they indoctrinate the kids into their respective organizations by calling them Broken Arrow this and Union and imply they are part of the school system with the naming (they are not in any way affiliated with the schools before 8th grade). But again, the point is more the parents pushing it than the kids asking for it. My son probably would have been fine playing rec soccer if I had stayed coaching rec soccer but we looked at competitive because all of his friends (and my entire team of 9 year olds) all were moving to TSC and Blitz.
When I played baseball at a younger age (8-12), our league had registrations and took only as many players through that process as could allocated to the 8 teams in the league. Every team in the 8-10 division had 5 10 year olds, 5 9 year olds, and 5 8 year olds. Every one got at least 1 AB each game and at least 1 inning in the field. And the teams were allocated players randomly. Kids that returned after playing as an 8 year old were allocated to the same team so you'd have kids playing together for a minimum of 2 years and they made it hard to move teams to discourage teams from recruiting players from other teams in the league. It changed a little going to 13/14 old ball because you had 5-6 11/12 year olds leagues merging into one Pony League with 12 teams. Not everyone who tried out got a spot in that one. There were 3 of us who started as 8 year olds playing together until we were 14 (we got drafted by the same Pony League team). Point is, I made a ton of friends in this system, I had a lot of fun in this system, and I loved baseball because of this system. I always figured I'd be able to help
My son develop that same love for the game but the experience was not the same and we couldn't find a league/system here that was even remotely close to providing that same opportunity.
My son has played baseball the last two year in the Bixby rec league (8-9 year olds). Outside of a few teams (you always have those) the rest of the teams were truly what I would consider “rec”. I have no clue regarding the other baseball leagues around town.
I do believe there is a shortage of rec leagues for older kids in most sports. Now are the low number of rec leagues in the older age groups related to a low number of kids playing these sports in these age groups ?
No idea. I hear absolute horror stories about baseball from so many parents. There is a sort of club system, but not so much. It is super expensive, too. Plus, ALL the travel ball kids do private training—all of them. The ring thing is just too funny.
My wife is letting my son play baseball this spring, and I dread it. I hate baseball. I think it is so boring. But if he wants it at his age, we will let him give it a go. The tee-ball was a joke, and we told each other never again until the coach pitched.
There seems to be still some rec soccer, but I skipped it because I wasn't interested. I couldn't bring myself to play it.
There doesn't seem to be any rec volleyball. Everything is a club, and that isn't cheap.
This was a good video. I agree to an extent. Unfortunately, I think some things begin at a younger age. That is just how it is, for better or worse.
I9 offers youth rec leagues in most sports including soccer, baseball, volleyball, flag football and basketball. The YMCA also offers youth leagues in volleyball and basketball
Maybe. So I saw that post and decided to follow the guy. He has another post talking about parents pushing kids to play and get a college scholarship so he laid out the numbers. He said 70% of all kids playing youth sports quit playing by age 13. Then he went on to rattle off numbers like 2% of kids who play HS sports actually go on to play college athletics in D1, and so on.
So it is possible the numbers dwindle more as kids reach those older age groups.
The Y leagues only last through a certain age (11/12 maybe) and the baseball and flag football are even younger from what I can tell.
My son played Upward basketball 1st through Asbury and then 1st UMC (which had paired with 1st Baptist Tulsa). Because he was playing soccer, this was a good outlet for him to do basketball as the seasons were short and there wasn't much pressure. I will say because of his GK training, he was an excellent defender because he could move his feet and he had long arms...blocked a lot of shots. His coach the last 2 years would put him at the top of a 1/2/2 half court trap defense. He had fun and I don't think he had any desire to continue after he aged out (8th grade). Upward is similar to i9. I know 1st Baptist BA does the i9 stuff. I am not opposed to any of these Christian affiliated sports orgs. They pretty much welcomed anyone in. And you would think the referee abuse might not be as insane at these types of events...you'd be wrong
My daughter tried volleyball and I think she liked it but her issue was she liked a lot of things and wanted to do a lot of things and we had to start cutting some things out because there simply wasn't enough time in the week to do everything and as you get older and start participating in school sports/activities, it becomes even harder. Right now my daughter does competitive pom through school and swims on a competitive swim team. Next year she is going to have to choose which one to do because pom and swim simply don't play well together at Union (or most HS in the area because of the way things are scheduled). We think right now she is leaning towards swim.
Let it be known: TSC is allowing us to reach out to other clubs in Tulsa to request scrimmages / friendlies.
At least for the 12G age group.
One response I’ve received so far is “we don’t have enough girls right now, but in a couple weeks we should and we are interested.” So thats good!
At least for the 12G age group.
One response I’ve received so far is “we don’t have enough girls right now, but in a couple weeks we should and we are interested.” So thats good!
Wait, TSC wouldn't allow teams to seek out friendlies/scrimmages? And if you all get one set, reach out and I'll be your referee. Still 9v9s or 11s?
I think it was more of an unofficial / official stance. You know how clubs are about protecting their players.
My stance has always been: ask them to play. Make the other clubs say no. At minimum, it dispels the idea that TSC is scared to lose players so they won’t play the other local clubs.
11 v 11.
I don’t recall us ever scrimmaging a Tulsa area team at TSC. Not sure how much of that was TSC trying to protect players opposed to the large talent gap between TSC NL team and other area teams. Assume some of both
We scrimmaged area teams fairly frequently at Blitz
We scrimmaged area teams fairly frequently at Blitz
Well, if an NL team loses to RL, then the RL club gets to say “why go there? They’re bad. That’s why they will lose NL.” If NL wins, then that’s the expected outcome. So it doesn’t realllllly benefit TSC. Our coach wants to play them so our girls get touches before league stuff starts again.
My son's TSC team seemed to always have scrimmages lined up against some of the other clubs. Blitz and Sheffield for sure. I'm sure part of it was trying to get kids to come over. And they would frequently scrimmage the next team up in the age group...until they started beating them regularly and it was a bad look especially when there were several players on his team (my son included) that clearly should have moved up to that next team and weren't because TSC didn't want to lose the players that would have been displaced...I think this happens a lot.
Now that you mention it I guess I don’t remember ever playing local teams. All of our friendlies consisted of Dallas teams or teams within in the same club. I think the whole time we were at TSC I only remember playing one local team our age, every other local team was older.
I think in most cases your team isn’t dodging the local teams or age group, it’s more than likely the games just wouldn’t be competitive. Like I mentioned above, we played a local team in our age one time in 2+ years we were at TSC.
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