Coaching a youth US Soccer teams is usually a relatively short term deal. MLS head job is the goal
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success as a pro coach usually is tied to how much $ ownership is willing to spend on players...and in MLS it's not even that easy as the league funnels all the big name international players to a handful of clubs (Miami, NYCFC, LAFC, Galaxy).
Nsien is a good coach. I think he's better youth coach than an upper level pro coach TBH, but then again, FC Tulsa didn't really work hard to get him the players he needed to compete.
I don’t think JM would be able to pass many background checks. He is a horrible person, over rated trainer.
You can think of him as you wish as a person, but as a technical teacher of soccer, he is one of the very best in Tulsa.
Do you think that is because he is talented or because the pool is shallow?
I think Felipe at Samba is better / just as good and isn’t a massive d*ckhead.
I've seen him train kids and seen the results, even after just a couple of sessions. He would occasionally come in and do some technical training sessions with my son's team. Even though my kid is a GK, the sessions were very positive for him as well and helped him with both his footwork with the ball in the back as well as his distribution. I mean, just a session or 2 and you could see the instant difference JM was making.
My son did a couple of sessions out at Samba too with a GK specific trainer so I can't really speak to Felipe's effectiveness. Everything is different when you're talking GKs and who they train with and what they work on. Lewis Amos was a great GK coach for my son...he was crazy and challenged my son to be better and put him in a training group with GKs who were slightly better than him so that also pushed him. BUT, the best coach my son had was Donovan Ricketts mostly because he challenged my son to play the game from the GK spot in a different way and he forced him to focus on skills that weren't associated with shot stopping. He treated the GK position like it was the grand master of chess on the soccer field which was perfect for my son because he is a very analytical person.
JM's personal issues can't be ignored so I questioned the wisdom of putting him with extremely young kids but as a coach for kids 14+, he makes them better players.
My daughter has tried multiple times to train with him and each time, he treated her like she wasn't worthy of his time. No "onboarding", no time for her to acclimate to his style, nothing. So when she didn't immediately click, that was it. She refuses to go back because of how uncomfortable she feels around him.
Makes sense and understandable. To be honest, I have never seen JM train girls. And I know on his own players, he's extremely tough and some kids work well in those conditions and some don't. And I'm not saying he's right or wrong or that I agree with his methods other than the drills he puts the kids through seem to be effective and stick pretty quickly.
Well, he has 1 that he's worked with for a long time and to his credit, she's a beast.
But other than that, idk any.
First time posting in the group, but have followed the conversation for a while. JM has trained tons of girls and coached girls prior to his most recent stint at TSC. Of all the coaches my daughter has had (and she has had a ton for a 2011) he was her favorite.
I'm happy she enjoyed it. I'm sure others have, too, but I'm only speaking on my experience with him as well as my daughter's experience. I'll give him his flowers all day on being a good technical coach / trainer. But that's where it stops for me.
You can ask ten different people about JM and get ten different opinions. All are likely valid. He’s not for everyone. In fact, he’s not for most players. He’s intense. He’s uncompromising. He’s demanding. He’s harsh at times. A kid has to have tough skin. All that said, for the most part he trains the top kids in the area. He’s sent more boys to MLS Next academies than all the other coaches/trainers in the state combined. I believe every local girl currently in the US Soccer ID camp pool is or has been trained by him.
However, your kid must find a fit. It doesn’t work if there is no relationship between a trainer and player. I’m a firm believer that every young player needs a mentor. Whether that’s a coach, trainer or older player. I do believe Felipe at Sambo is also a good option. He’s trained a number of D1 girls through the years.
However, your kid must find a fit. It doesn’t work if there is no relationship between a trainer and player. I’m a firm believer that every young player needs a mentor. Whether that’s a coach, trainer or older player. I do believe Felipe at Sambo is also a good option. He’s trained a number of D1 girls through the years.
We were at TSC until this past season but moved to OEFC, but we try to find open sessions with JM when we have time.
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As I said before, I hate hearing this stuff. I honestly want to know how many Tulsa players are down there. We friggin hated OKC back in the day. It's amazing the lengths parents will go to get their kids opportunities. One has to wonder where we would be if they were all here not there.
What would it take to get them back? A change in coaches? More talent ?
I have a friend whose son is pretty young lives there is in ECNL and thinks they are full of turds... his team is good and he plays a lot too.
JM is intense. He is demanding. If you are not at that a top level, he probably isn't for you. That is okay. There have to be coaches like that. There are different coaches for different groups and levels. I don't know why people can't understand that. Some styles are very off putting, and he is terrible role model at times. But he will make teams perform. In america you get to decide what you want.
TSC didn’t leave us with a lot of options. The girls side was never a priority and there were things that happened on our team in particular that made no sense for us to stay. My daughter plays at a high level and I wanted to make sure she continued to have the opportunity to challenge herself with ECNL and OEFC was the only other option.
MLS Next 2 was just announced also, could be an option.
Can MLS next 2 play high school soccer? MLS next is no high school. That could be an interesting ask here in small market Tulsa. This town loves its high school athletics. Our newspaper can't seem to go beyond writing articles about Union, Owasso, Jenks and Bixby Football.
One of the failures of the girl's DA was the high school only requirement. Half the clubs gave the finger to the DA and weren't all in. They didn't understand, given that the girls were winning world cups.
One of the failures of the girl's DA was the high school only requirement. Half the clubs gave the finger to the DA and weren't all in. They didn't understand, given that the girls were winning world cups.
What value do you think those conferences provide? I have been to them. They are usually relatively overrated, especially if you have been in the game for ages. But it is nice if you are presenting and getting paid. I mean, if you have 1,000 participants paying $455. That is profitable.
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Hopefully the leadership with this new club understands the current Tulsa climate and makes the proper adjustments to running a club. Tulsa soccer is a mess.
I'm not sure what the value actually is, but I think the optics of it suck. Our club is struggling and from the outside, it seemed like there was a huge conference where our people maybe could've gone to learn something new or gain new perspective, etc. Instead, 4 people from TSC went to Brazil to visit a Brazilian club. Maybe they'll bring something back from there? IDK.
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It’s is. TSC has about 75% of the talent. That’s not good enough to compete in ECNL Texas league. I’m not saying people should play at TSC (or any club) but WSA and Blitz aren’t turning out D1 players. I have been openly critical of TSC but they still have the most talent because of ECNL
If the talent is divided more than where it currently stands that will make it even harder to compete. But I agree with what you are saying about the other clubs.
The other clubs (WSA, Blitz, FC Tulsa) smell blood in the water. TSC is perceived as weak and vulnerable. They are all trying to position themselves to gain NL should it be taken from TSC. None of it is good for the Tulsa soccer scene. Hopefully it all shakes out sooner rather than later.
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