To be fair most cheap stuff tasted like swill. It was just whatever you got used to and could put away a lot of. That was Keystone for me. 2x case race champ.
when is the press conference?
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I wish we had one! Some of the bigger chapters bring them out on game days. Would be cool.
Well I suppose after 6 or so it didn’t matter anymore. As long as it was cold and yellow, I’d drink it.
My biggest qualm with the other houses wasn't the beer differences. It was the beer pong rule differences. I saw some crap tendencies being brought from other houses. It's a gentleman's game, treat it like one.
Went back to an alumni event a while back and it’s VERY different than we played. Each house had their “rules” though. Some were indeed weird
TU wasn't a Keystone Light school like OU and OSU were in the mid 2000s....luckily we had QT that ran specials on other beers.
I'm not sure what most folks drank in some of the other houses... but I only saw Natty Light among the KA's that I can recall. I was there later than you though.
I refer you to the capital gazette article about Navy for facilities and budget items.
I will also point out this is four years now of the QB excuse. Several schools in our conference have had grad transfer QBs come in. The coach has failed and it is on him.
Next year the schedule will be even harder and the chance of us having a 1 win season is high.
Houston will be better than us and likely competing for a ny6 bowl.
UCF will be better than us and likely competing for a ny6 bowl.
Cincy will be younger and better than us and likely competing for a ny6 bowl.
Memphis will be better than us.
Michigan St will be a monster next year and compete for a division and B1G championship.
OSU is likely a 9-10 win team next year.
Tulane continues to improve, just fired their OC because he wasn't getting it done, and has a bowl game to build on. Monty is .500 against them and lost the last two including an embarrassment last time in New Orleans.
Navy will be Navy and I doubt we will be favored.
SMU in Dallas is always tough on Tulsa, Dykes will be in his second year and their schedule isn't quite as tough.
Wyoming could be winnable at home, but they will bring back a good bit and are bowl eligible this year.
San Jose St is terrible but when was the last time we won on the road? A trip to Northern California isn't exactly a short one either.
ECU may have a new coach but definitely have a killer recruiting class and a freshman hometown QB lighting people up.
That's 8-10 losses and an 0-12 season is as likely as 8-9 wins. There is no evidence to support the claim that Monty will make it all better next year. His offensive trends have been down and we have been through three of his just wait for so and so QB's, it seems unlikely number four will be different.
But Tulane has all that state money coming in so they can afford to fire coaches!11!!!
Coors Lite was a backup... not enough difference for the slightly higher price.
I think I'd go...
Bud Light
Keystone / Coors Lite
PBR?
Natty Light.
But to be honest, it all got you drunk... so if you weren't buying it then who really cares right?
I know - but it just doesn’t work for me for some reason. I love me some coors.
Yeah. I think I'll take Austin's opinion over yours. You'll argue with anyone, no matter their expertise. I assume you know who Austin is, but it certainly isn't obvious from your post.
You had plenty of time to write the check to get this done, to make Monty gone. But you didn’t do it. I hold you personally responsible for our failure next year. I’m starting a jihad on you if we lose next year.
Let’s write checks to build an indoor facility. Like the ones that teams in our conference have had for nearly a decade.
Our coach knew coming in when Dane Evans would be graduating. He has had four years to recruit a QB and we are hoping a transfer who had one good game at the college level will be our savior. Never mind that our play calling leaves a lot to be desired and we have a coach who is something like 5-16 in games decided by 8 points or less.
Houston returns virtually everyone on offense and will be the favorites in the west. Their defense has been injured (nearly every defensive lineman in particular) and gained a ton of experience. They will be better next year not worse.
UCF has been leading the league in recruiting and have a ton of young talent who have seen the field. They have three senior starters on offense and five on defense. It's unlikely they step back as the program has been fairly successful for a decade and shows no negative signs from the coaching change.
Cincy has four seniors on a top defense and four on offense in there two deep. They are mostly freshman and sophmores and will be a monster next year.
Memphis has 7 seniors in there two deep and will be loaded next year. They lost two wtf games to Tulane and Navy in the rain. Otherwise they're a ten win team again this year. They will be better next year.
Tulane just keeps improving every year and had they beat wake in overtime to open this year would be sitting with 7 wins right now. 8 is very possible as is a third victory in a row against Monty.
Michigan State is always at least decent and QB is their only true question mark. They are still better than Arkansas this year.
OSU will probably be very similar to Texas this year.
Wyoming is probably a little worse than Arkansas St. was this year.
San Jose St is on the road and probably better than an FCS team.
Our schedule is definitely harder and considering our road record under this current coach I have little faith in wins against SJSU or an ECU team that put it on UNC. We always play poorly vs SMU on the road and we got ambushed and beaten badly last time in New Orleans.
I just strongly disagree our problem is QB play to start with. It's coaching decisions. It's quiting in Arkansas, Temple, and Navy games.
Aww you're trying to be cute and deflect from just how much money this decision could cost Tulsa in the long run.
The nightmare scenario is firing him five winless games into the season, having an interim, slim future options and an apathetic fanbase who won't respond.
I blame people who make excuses for people who have horrible job evaluations. He won more games in either of his first two seasons than the total he has won with his players the last two years.
We just completely disagree on this. It happens.
I don't believe that's accurate.
Tulsa -4 San Jose State
Tulsa -31.5 NCA&T
Tulsa -14.5 Fresno State
Tulsa -16 SMU
Tulsa -10.5 Tulane
Tulsa -10 ECU
Tulsa -23 Cincinnati
Tulsa -12 Central Michigan
I actually don’t think we disagree. I just don’t whine incessantly about things that can’t be changed. And I’m not histrionic. But that’s a personality difference not a disagreement.
Oh? Perhaps you don't know the definition of disagreement, much as you didn't for jihad?
You believe this is the best scenario for this program.
I know it is not.
The issue is the athletic director who thinks being a good person is the evaluation criteria for a coach not wins and losses.
I know it’s THE situation no matter how much we whine about it.
Whether it’s the best situation depends on what the alternatives are. We’d all love a $500m donation and to hire Nick Saban. But what are the real alternatives? I suspect if we ponied up to fire Monty we’d end up with someone even less qualified and on a longer contract. That I think is even worse in both regards. So of the available options this is probably the best. Sometimes life gives you the choice of two bad alternatives and you have to suck it up and move forward. It’s called being a grown up. You can gnash your teeth and curse the gods about cruel fate, and dream bitterly of the glory just beyond our grasp but it won’t change the real options we have. Making decisions without maturely understanding the alternatives on the other side is a recipe for bad decisions.
I’ve said over and over that I think the athletic director is where all the problems start. That’s where the first change should happen. Firing Monty while Gragg is charge is useless.
I see so you're a fortune teller now?
We don't know what's in the future, it could be worse so keep taking the bad?
We know what we get with Monty. We know other people have been here, succeeded immeaditly in far worse situations, and then sustained that success.
I'll take my chances and toss the dice. How much worse can it get? We lose every game? That's not much of a step down.
I keep hearing the number 4 in these posts.
That’s how many years Monty has had.
That’s probably our likely win total next year without any changes on this offensive staff.
That’s how many years Monty has had.
That’s probably our likely win total next year without any changes on this offensive staff.
Good post. I don't think everything that went poorly this year is on the QB position though. Boomer showed he is capable of running a quicker pace, being accurate, etc. when the defense can't tee off because they know every play that is coming. I gushed over the 2 TE sets on Saturday because it is not something we've seen at all this year. Deep slants and crosses. 1st time all year for a lot of those routes. WRs holding onto balls.Simply put, the play calling was at a level to keep the defense off balance. That is the part that needs to be there next year. A lot of us firmly believe there is plenty of talent at the skilled positions to score 30-35 ppg. With the defense that is returning, that should be good enough for 6-7 wins and possibly more if they get a break in some of those other games.
My issue with the QB is that I've heard the same thing for three, now going on four years.
Not that Dane wasn't going to start his SR year but everyone was gushing over the backups and how great they were in practice.
Then Dane left, we've been through 3 QB's, all of whom were the next great thing before they played a down, and we're sitting on 5 wins in 2 years.
I'm not laying it on the QB's themselves. I've seen all but the new guy in practice or scrimmages. President was the only one I never thought "had it."
My concern is that after 3 QB's, we didn't see improvement in the QB play until the final game this year.
Either we're not recruiting the right guys for the system or, don't know how to develop them... I'm thinking it's the latter
Careful GH2, Goldie has been spotted around campus these winter evenings hiking her rear leg.(although it might be better than Keystone)
