Ukraine….what’s our endgame here

[astonmartin708]

Biden owd Zelensky money, not a solution.

Trump owns you and Putin owns Trump.

 

[noble cane]

Trump owns you and Putin owns Trump.

If Putin owns Trump, why didnt he move on the Donbas with Trump in office.. Obama gave him the Crimea and Syria, yet he chose not to act on the rest of Ukraine until Biden was in office.. why?

 

[TulsaRulzOSUdrools]

Perhaps that should tell you something.. the EU talks a mean game and sends a few Euros, but none of their youth are running to the front..all you guys that want to fight, i am sure that Zelensky will take you for cannon fodder.. i am pretty sure he will take anyone.. only he cant get the thousands upon thousands of fighting age Ukrainian males that are partying in clubs all over Europe to join his cause.. ( i had multiple Ukrainian exchange students and they me send pics of Berlin, Warsaw, Prague, and Vienna clubs)

This is not true. Lots of people without military experience have shown up and been shown the door.

 

[noble cane]

This is not true. Lots of people without military experience have shown up and been shown the door.

Ok.. so Birkenstock Vegans need not apply..

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Biden owd Zelensky money, not a solution.

Where the heck do you get that Biden owed Zelensky money. Do you ever get on your rocker?

 

[Gmoney4WW]

If Putin owns Trump, why didnt he move on the Donbas with Trump in office.. Obama gave him the Crimea and Syria, yet he chose not to act on the rest of Ukraine until Biden was in office.. why?

Putin thought it would be over in 2 or 3 days. So, it didn't really matter. Besides it would throw more fuel on the fire that Putin had the goods on Trump. Why would Putin do that to Trump early on while he was being impeached over that crap? He was probably protecting Trump from that. Why turn the wolves back onto Trump's scent? You want to protect your dog for future favors.

Later in Trump's first term he probably thought Trump would win a second term. Why would he want to put Trump under the pressure cooker until he was in his second and final term, where he wasn't terribly worried about being elected again. It would be much easier to ignore Ukraine, and watch it being taken over, if Trump wouldn't really suffer any consequences for having done so.

Later on, when Trump had failed to win, it wasn't looking like there was any great chance for Trump to come back and beat Biden in the second race against him. Putin probably thought if not now, then when. Besides I'm pretty sure he thought Biden would react weak. Once again though, he thought it wouldn't matter because he thought it would be over before Biden even had a chance to react.

 

[noble cane]

Putin thought it would be over in 2 or 3 days. So, it didn't really matter. Besides it would throw more fuel on the fire that Putin had the goods on Trump. Why would Putin do that to Trump early on while he was being impeached over that crap? He was probably protecting Trump from that. Why turn the wolves back onto Trump's scent? You want to protect your dog for future favors.

Later in Trump's first term he probably thought Trump would win a second term. Why would he want to put Trump under the pressure cooker until he was in his second and final term, where he wasn't terribly worried about being elected again. It would be much easier to ignore Ukraine, and watch it being taken over, if Trump wouldn't really suffer any consequences for having done so.

Later on, when Trump had failed to win, it wasn't looking like there was any great chance for Trump to come back and beat Biden in the second race against him. Putin probably thought if not now, then when. Besides I'm pretty sure he thought Biden would react weak. Once again though, he thought it wouldn't matter because he thought it would be over before Biden even had a chance to react.

I hope you didnt strain something with those mental gymnastics..

Its like.. watching a KW offense in action... " they are expecting a screen, so we will run up the middle, unless they expect me to expect them to expect the screen and run up the middle, so, i will do something totally unexpected and run a screen."

 

[lawpoke87]

Besides I'm pretty sure he thought Biden would react weak. Once again though, he thought it wouldn't matter because he thought it would be over before Biden even had a chance to react.

There was a 6 month lead up / build up to the invasion. What are you talking about “would be over before Biden has a chance to react”. Biden had ample time to send arms and even troops to defend against the invasion is he so wanted. He didn’t and Ukraine was invaded