Three Point Percentages the past 15 games
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Curtis just needs to not shoot them. I am actually better with Shaq shooting them because his stroke looks good and he seems to be building that confidence. Smith's shot is an ugly one...not really built for distance shots. While I disagree with some of Wright's decision to shoot the 3 at times because of the timing of the shot or situation, he really does have a nice stroke from outside for a 6'9" guy.
Ray's work on his shot over the summer has paid off. It's not about pure talent level for Tulsa, it's about the upside potential and the individuals willingness to get their grades AND spend the time to improve their basketball skills.
Harrison tightens up on his shot. It's almost as if he doesn't trust his skills or possibly a little stage fright? Maybe some meditation before the game to get him into "The Zone"? Ohmmmmmmmm, Ohmmmmmmmmmm
Ever since the 3 against Memphis, Shaq has been a little more willing to square up and shoot. His shot is so much more fluid and pure than when he was a FR. You can see the amount of work he has put in to improve there. That said, he is much more confident shooting it, but it is still not his first choice. Now he needs to develop the 8-10 pull up in the lane. He would be absolutely devastating with that in his repertoire.
You really need players that can hit 3s out on the 3 point line. Put Shaq @ the FT line, with Ray & Woodard outside. If they can't leave Ray & Woodard alone, Shaq has 2 less opposing players in his way. Of course, we still need 2 bigs playing well to make this work !
BTW, if you tell Curtis not to shoot, he becomes Bishop Wheatley & our offense becomes Woj-like.
BTW, if you tell Curtis not to shoot, he becomes Bishop Wheatley & our offense becomes Woj-like.
Long twos aren't worth it when you can move a couple feet out and get another point when your percentage doesn't drop much. He just needs to work on his 3npoint game. Move somewhere into the 30% range on three's next year so he can make the (hopeful) transition to the NBA easier.
According to the AAC website Woodard finished #4 in 3pt FG% and Rashad Ray finished 6th.
Ray also finished first in Assist to TO ratio.
The 3 pt % is better than what I thought.
Curtis needs to pick it up or go inside and try the pump fakes he is really good at that.
Shaq will be successful driving to the rim against most teams but it will be tough against Cincy and SMU.
GO TU!!!
Ray also finished first in Assist to TO ratio.
The 3 pt % is better than what I thought.
Curtis needs to pick it up or go inside and try the pump fakes he is really good at that.
Shaq will be successful driving to the rim against most teams but it will be tough against Cincy and SMU.
GO TU!!!
Great post Geo...... After looking at Ray's top 6 in AAC 3 point shooting percentage and his league leading A/T ratio, he is forced to receive fewer minutes than Curtis .
Ray 91 assists/ 36 turnovers /30 steals
Curtis 45 assists/55 turnovers/17 steals
He's probably played more minutes than Curtis on the year II. Are you judging off of the last game? Curtis was effective following directive not to leave Nic Moore. Ray had an issue with this. I do think Ray got some really raw calls while guarding him. Watching college basketball yesterday, I thought the officiating was much better in these lower conference tournaments. Why can't we get balanced officiating in one game? Or in the minimum get some pandering?
Curtis has played more minutes this year than Ray. Curtis did a good job on Moore. Unfortunately Curtis is only about 5% from the three this year when the game is within 10 points at the time. (look up the running scores when he makes one.) wheras Ray is 6th in the league from the three and has made crunch time shots. With our shooting woes, we need shooters on the floor. Defensively I will take Ray all day due to his ability to get steals and disturb the opponents.
No question on Curtis not making shots when the game is competitive. He's only made one three in the last six games, and that was when TU was throttling Temple. I've had conversations with people about that very fact. Good point. I will take Ray as well, but I did want to call attention to the fact that Curtis was excellent on Moore Sunday.
We have two really big issues with Curtis offensively. 1: He turns the ball over. 2: He can't shoot. Ray is particularly very strong in both categories. Although Ray had a really bad game Sunday, and some really uncharacteristic bad decisions.
I already was... Curtis is a role player at best. His shot is soooooo flat. Birt has better size for the position, shoots the longball better, and he shoots tremendously at the stripe. As long as he lives up to his modest totals from UIC and JUCO then Birt will probably start next season.
Curtis actually shoots a better % from the field against much tougher competition than Birt. Birt is much better from three at 40% but it's far from a given that he supplants Curtis in the starting lineup. There's an adjustment period from Juco as the players are bigger, faster and close out on shooters more quickly. If he can beat out Curtis then we should be much better next season.
This post was edited on 3/10 7:05 PM by lawpoke87
This post was edited on 3/10 7:05 PM by lawpoke87
Sure didn't see much out of Birt in his conference championship game. He played only about 5 minutes and did not even shoot that I noticed. He has had a couple of 0-10 games from the three according to team stats (which may or may not be accurate) Actually the best looking athlete on our whole team is Littlejohn. Not sure what is going on there. Shake Milton could have started next year for us....maybe he will start for SMU.........
That was weird that he didn't play much. Shooters are streaky, and I noticed he had some bad games going into that one But if you'd watched his 34 point game, he'd be the savior. And look, he's not the savior, but he's a 40 percent shooter from deep and we can use that right now.
In his Freshman year at the D-1 level team UIC (Granted its a bad league) Birt averaged 6.3 pts in 19 minutes per game. Marquel is averaging just 1 point better than that in 27 minutes per game.
Marquel has a better overall FG% because the only shots he shoots are open layups off of steals, fastbreaks, or blown assignments. That's his play when he would have been a senior this year if not for injury.
Birt shot a much, much, much, better 3pt% as a freshman, and he hit 32 out of 35 free throws. Just imagine what Birt should be able to do as a Junior who seems to have improved his touch from 3 point range. Marquel is the Lew Evans of last year. He's a great glue guy. He's smart. He's tough. But, he's just doesn't quite fit the bill as a starter.
Marquel has a better overall FG% because the only shots he shoots are open layups off of steals, fastbreaks, or blown assignments. That's his play when he would have been a senior this year if not for injury.
Birt shot a much, much, much, better 3pt% as a freshman, and he hit 32 out of 35 free throws. Just imagine what Birt should be able to do as a Junior who seems to have improved his touch from 3 point range. Marquel is the Lew Evans of last year. He's a great glue guy. He's smart. He's tough. But, he's just doesn't quite fit the bill as a starter.
YB : Did you see the 34 point game? That would be cool to see...... I saw a few clips in high school and he would be our 3rd lefty starter.....nice stroke.....maybe he was sick or disciplined in that last game. He just stood around.....only played 8 minutes whereas he was playing 22-25 usually. We will see what happens in Hutch.
Yes I did see it. You can actually go back and watch it on their site. He has a smooth shot, and as you read in that article, is especially deadly with the catch and shoot three. We need a catch and shoot player. We have a lot of guys that can score it off the dribble. He's also money from the line. You piece a team together, we don't need a world beater, we need a guy that can make open threes and keep the defense honest. BIrt can do that.
I think the dark horse is probably Taplin. I loved his film. Super strong with the ball. He's playing on one of the best prep teams in the country.
I have to agree on Taplin. I said as much to Chris today. I got to watch the last 10 minutes of the Northeast Private Schools Championship with St Thomas More losing to an absolutely loaded Brewster Prep by 9 points, although it was a 5 point game under 2 minutes and a STM kid missed a slam. Taplin came into the game just under 10 minutes and was instrumental in erasing a 17 point lead. He hit a 3 off a set play after a TO. Then he hit another 3 from the corner. He added 2 FT's and 2 off a beautiful drive and bank in. The only shot he missed in the last 10 minutes was a 3 pointer.
You can see in the article he led STM with 19 pts, 5 reb's and 3 assts.
I've linked the article. And this effort was against a team that had 7 high major signees on it.
Justin Simon - Arizona
Jalen Adams - UConn
Donovan Mitchell - Louisville
Marcus Derrickson - Georgetown
Jarred Rueter - Virginia
Alex Illikainen - Wisconsin
David Crisp - Washington
Sterling Taplin
You can see in the article he led STM with 19 pts, 5 reb's and 3 assts.
I've linked the article. And this effort was against a team that had 7 high major signees on it.
Justin Simon - Arizona
Jalen Adams - UConn
Donovan Mitchell - Louisville
Marcus Derrickson - Georgetown
Jarred Rueter - Virginia
Alex Illikainen - Wisconsin
David Crisp - Washington
Sterling Taplin
You'd think so, but I'm in the opposite boat with him. I believe he will play some next year. He's a very rounded guard and a true two-way kid.
Would have loved to have seen that. That's a great night for him. He does a lot of things well, you can see that on his film. I really like his length and athleticism to go with excellent range. He's a playmaker, and like I say above, I think he'll play some next year.
Did you see that article on the kid leading the country in scoring at Eastern Washington? The kid had one offer, from a JUCO, and the only reason he got a offer from EW was because that JUCO coach was hired there. Now he's averaged over 20 points a game consecutive years. I've watched a lot of basketball this week, and there are so many good kids out there.
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