...of the Tulane game in the Tulsa World on Friday? It's not like the game itself or all the drama between the players and coaches didn't give them a side story.
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Yeah, but that didn't make pooper scooper's story sound as good. He probably did a rough count 10 or 15 min. before tip. He's gotta work that sh*ta$$ storyline.
I would be more welcoming of Haisten's crap if he didn't write it and if he applied the same standard to OSU. Relatively speaking to the fan and student base, TU's attendance is better than OSU. But then again, Haisten and The World must kowtow to the Big XII at all times.
Either way, obviously not nearly enough fans there. TU marketing department, as I've said before, needs to learn from the Drillers about getting people into the stands. Talk to Mike Melega and Brian Carroll. That would help.
By the way, Nigel Carter was working as an intern for the Drillers last summer.
By the way, Nigel Carter was working as an intern for the Drillers last summer.
I don’t know that marketing would do much, either. You need people locally who are interested in the home team and college basketball. That doesn’t happen much right now.
I actually thought Hines’ article on Friday was very well done. It even pissed off the Tulane board.
I actually thought Hines’ article on Friday was very well done. It even pissed off the Tulane board.
My point about the marketing is that the Drillers in the early 80's drew about 500 fans a game, if that. The place was dead. And they turned things around. And lets face it, baseball isn't a fast-paced game. Most people aren't going because of their love for baseball.
I posted this topic with a question mark after my first sentence. I guess I should have made that question mark more obvious. I want to thank gold for accidentally answering my question. I have my shortcut to the Tulsa World set to TUSportsExtra. It has always shown me every story even remotely related to TU. Alas not on Friday or anytime after. They didn't show me Kelly's write up of the game. But they definitely show me Scoop article about the attendance. They don't even show the article Kelly wrote on Friday in the Latest TU Headlines in the days after.
I found it because Gold's mention of the article made me aware it actually existed. I found it by going to the Sports heading and selecting Men's Basketball. I'm hoping this was just a one time screw up by somebody at the paper. Anybody else have this same problem? Man almighty that royally pissed me off that not only did they have the article on attendance, but they did not have a write up on the actual game. Might not have even posted this topic if I had found Kelly's game summary!
I found it because Gold's mention of the article made me aware it actually existed. I found it by going to the Sports heading and selecting Men's Basketball. I'm hoping this was just a one time screw up by somebody at the paper. Anybody else have this same problem? Man almighty that royally pissed me off that not only did they have the article on attendance, but they did not have a write up on the actual game. Might not have even posted this topic if I had found Kelly's game summary!
By the way @Bill Lowery, are you the sneaky one who disguises his name as mr. Bill Mowery in the comments section of the TW?
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If so, you should put a little more effort on your stealth work on the internet. 
ointsId've given you low rankings if Chris hadn't gotten rid of that emoji!) ;0)
If so, you should put a little more effort on your stealth work on the internet. ointsId've given you low rankings if Chris hadn't gotten rid of that emoji!) ;0)
By the way @Bill Lowery, are you the sneaky one who disguises his name as mr. Bill Mowery in the comments section of the TW?
Not me. Don’t you have a subscription to comment? I haven’t subscribed to the TW since the early nineties. And I only subscribed then when I had it mailed to Delaware. I stopped when I moved back to Missouri. I rarely read articles from the online site today. Usually when someone on the boards mentions a story.
That’s an interesting point. The Drillers still don’t draw well every night. But they do pack them in from time to time. I only know a handful of people who actually follow them like you would a real team. The rest of us treat it like it’s an outdoor bar with a low cover charge, hot dogs, and an occasional baseball game that you sometimes follow.
I think TU basketball is an altogether different animal. I have a lot of doubts that “marketing” will make much of a difference. It’s a lot of other generational and cultural factors at issue. I remember a time when nothing was scheduled on campus during basketball. From what I understand, there are MANY events scheduled during our games now. Should we do more things like the Drillers to get people down there? Hell yes. But I think we are talking baseballs and basketballs here.
Agreed - there are some things the drillers do VERY well that we could absolutely use to our benefit, but the overall attendance situation is beyond marketing and promotions.
I think TU could do better at “passive marketing,” getting our name out there. We compete for entertainment dollars with OSU and the Thunder. Both have tons of people wearing gear, bumper stickers on cars, and generating discussion. It annoys me to some extent and I suspect the piers that be believe such efforts are below them. But I think it makes a difference.
I just think it's funny that some guy named Bill Mowery comments on TU sports a decent amount. You have a mwinkie.
Bill Mowery in the TW is hilarious. Who’s next....Mold* ???
I always liked it when Chewbacca from Rice called me “Yellow.” Those were the days. I don’t know if any other programs that talk smack with another school’s beat writer.
What I think TU needs to do to imitate the Drillers of the 80's and 90's are ticket giveaway nights. We need people in the seats. Have three or four ticket giveaway nights. Have the tickets available at QT.
Also, since parking is a major problem at TU for fans who aren't in the Hurricane Club, some more lots need to be open to the public, even if they aren't close. If you could get some fans into the games, and make sure concession stands and the ticket office have plenty of workers those nights, it could help substantially.
Those giveaway nights for the Drillers got people thinking about the Drillers again. Made it an option. I remember going to some games at the old park where fans were sitting on the field because there such such an overflow. Around 14,000 at a park that seated maybe 10,000 at the time.
Too many people in town never even think of going to at TU game. Basketball or football. That could change. Unless people are lured into the game, they won't care about TU basketball.
Also, since parking is a major problem at TU for fans who aren't in the Hurricane Club, some more lots need to be open to the public, even if they aren't close. If you could get some fans into the games, and make sure concession stands and the ticket office have plenty of workers those nights, it could help substantially.
Those giveaway nights for the Drillers got people thinking about the Drillers again. Made it an option. I remember going to some games at the old park where fans were sitting on the field because there such such an overflow. Around 14,000 at a park that seated maybe 10,000 at the time.
Too many people in town never even think of going to at TU game. Basketball or football. That could change. Unless people are lured into the game, they won't care about TU basketball.
Beer, Hot Dogs, Bobble Heads, and Fireworks... Did I mention Beer
We need high scoring offense....
Highlight reel dunks...
And a Championship contender..
We have to make sure the local press can’t ignore us..
Otherwise we need to have Sara McLaughlin do a PSA for us..
I don’t know if conference rules let us give tickets away. That was an issue since the WAC and I don’t know why AAC would be different. We can discount them but that’s about it. I don’t have any hard info and stand to be corrected, but over the years that’s what I’ve gleaned.
Couldn't we just have a company sponsor a public giveaway? Like QT buying a bunch of tickets at an ultra low price to give away with QT drinks in the metro area?
One of the car dealerships was doing a giveaway for a football game this year, although I can't remember if it was a true giveaway or the tickets were reduced to 5 dollars when presented at TU. Probably was to get in for $5.
Does anyone else remember this?
Does anyone know how much tickets can be discounted if they can't be given away?
With the attendance issues affecting most NCAA schools. if it is a rule that you can't give away tickets, that needs to be changed.
Could QT or some other company offer a free ticket with a purchase of something at their store?
Does anyone else remember this?
Does anyone know how much tickets can be discounted if they can't be given away?
With the attendance issues affecting most NCAA schools. if it is a rule that you can't give away tickets, that needs to be changed.
Could QT or some other company offer a free ticket with a purchase of something at their store?
From what I recall, QT wants no part in partnering with TU athletics and made it clear they will not be donating... which is weird since the alumni connection but I guess that’s their prerogative.
Interesting with huge a TU booster being the half owner of QT. He talked to my TU marketing class when I was in college about the founding of QT.
That's a terrible place to have a giveaway because no one who casual sports fan is going to know to look at XYZ car dealership in town. If you're already a Tulsa fan you might go to the dealership for cheaper seats, but those aren't the people we're trying to attract. We need a place (like QT) where a plethora of non-TU fans go everyday and there are locations spread around town. One car dealership isn't going to cut it.
Well, we're not asking them to donate. We're asking them to do an advertising giveaway. It wouldn't cost them anything and it might help them sell more taquitos or donuts or whatever.
As I recall the things that got people into Driller Stadium were fireworks, REO Speedwagon concert, dollar hotdog night.
If it would bring them more business, I bet they would go for it. We just need to know how to work with them rather than coming with our hands out looking for money.
We do have some sort of relationship with QT because they have TU pocket schedules at many locations.
I’d be very surprised if TU hasn’t attempted to do more promos/ticket deals with QT. I don’t know what the issue preventing it would be but I just can’t imagine they haven’t tried.
I’d be very surprised if TU hasn’t attempted to do more promos/ticket deals with QT. I don’t know what the issue preventing it would be but I just can’t imagine they haven’t tried.
