According to Twitter, Geno is leaving the program. Thanks, Geno - you always played hard. Good luck wherever you land.
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I bet there’s a few D1 schools out there willing to take a 6’9 guy who can shoot
What's out there now to add
High senior
Juco
Transfer
Save spot for next year
High senior
Juco
Transfer
Save spot for next year
I suspect Horne, Jeffries, and Igbanu in combination with Hewitt and another forward will get most of that.
Yes - having two true big men on the roster will take us to the next level, in my opinion.
I don't think Haith can afford to wait a year. He needs to sign a Shammet type of player
He would, I agree. It would be nice to get a guard who could shoot like Shammet from Wichita State . It would still be great to add another big man like you said. That way we could have 2 guys that are 6ft 10 inches on the court
We have one, his name is Sterling Taplin. If you look at Shamet’s stats and Taplin’s stats they are very comparable, we just need to get Taplin to stop passing up open shots. Now if you’re talking about the future I agree but until play starts We don’t know whether or not that guy might already be on campus.
I’m intrigued by Bryce Cook and hope we get him to sign next November.
I’m intrigued by Bryce Cook and hope we get him to sign next November.
I think you’ll find Zeke Moore to be another one. 39.1% from 3-pt as a frosh and 52.2% in HS. Someone I know saw him do shooting drills with our players on his visit and said he out performed everyone.
Shamet was 4* and #88 nationally on rivals. We're not going to grab quality this season.
We might still be able to get a good shooter now that we have two open scholarships though. One for Antun and another for someone who spaces the floor.
We might still be able to get a good shooter now that we have two open scholarships though. One for Antun and another for someone who spaces the floor.
He would put our roster a little more out of balance though.
Honestly; I don't really care about that though. To me open roster spots just mean you can bring in a player that's better than the last one you had. They represent opportunity rather than detriment.
It's interesting that some are advocating for two "big" guys on the court when the game is going toward the 4 guard line-up. Look at the final 4- none of those teams play with 2 guys over 6'7. The "winning" formula seems to be 4 shooters/penetrators and one big (in Nova's case that guy can also shoot) who rebounds and sets screens.
Duke tried two bigs and neither could guard opposing slashers- they tried zone and even that resulted in a key big fouling out. Last year (UNC/Zags) it was all about big guys and depth, but it seems that the game is moving far far away from it. Maybe that's not true, but it seems to be a trend
Duke tried two bigs and neither could guard opposing slashers- they tried zone and even that resulted in a key big fouling out. Last year (UNC/Zags) it was all about big guys and depth, but it seems that the game is moving far far away from it. Maybe that's not true, but it seems to be a trend
You're right on with this, especially at the college level...but even looking at the NBA, most teams may play with some really tall guys, but they are not post players in the truest sense. Durant, Nowitzki, Al Horford. They occupy positions considered for bigs but none of them are true PFs. The Warriors play with more of a 4 out 1 in concept. The Celtics do as well. The game has certainly shifted to be one that favors teams who have 4 guys who can shoot from distance or penetrate off the bounce.
Every good team still plays with a guy who can protect the rim and grab rebounds be they NCAA or NBA. Tulsa's problem has been that our Centers can't stay on the court for more than 25 minutes a game. We've needed a starter and a backup to fill that roll for 40 minutes. Antun and Hewitt could do that. Igbanu can be a tweener 4-5 as well.
Cincy's frontcourt this season:
Washington 6-9 28.5 mpg
Clark 6-8 23.3 mpg
Scott 6-7 12.5 mpg
Brooks 6-11 9.7 mpg
Diarra 6-9 6.6 mpg
WSU's frontcourt was similar though a little smaller after the first 4 contributing forwards. I attribute some of that to coming from the MVC where they could get away with it.
Cincy's frontcourt this season:
Washington 6-9 28.5 mpg
Clark 6-8 23.3 mpg
Scott 6-7 12.5 mpg
Brooks 6-11 9.7 mpg
Diarra 6-9 6.6 mpg
WSU's frontcourt was similar though a little smaller after the first 4 contributing forwards. I attribute some of that to coming from the MVC where they could get away with it.
No one is saying we don't need a true C on the floor. But the era of playing with true 1-5 is pretty much over, regardless of players' listed heights. In Cincinnati's case they played with 2 PFs and no true C even though both played exceptional post defense. We played with a PF, SF (Etou) and 3 guards. There are very few teams that play with a traditional 1-5 any more. The game is certainly shifting towards more athletic players who can shoot well from outside...because the guys playing defense are more athletic and jumping through the roof. Guys like Nowitzki and Durant are becoming the norm.
I wasn’t implying we needed them on the floor at the same time, but rather just having 2 true bigs that can help with matchup issues.
A five man rotation of guys over 6-7 is what's preferable. That's so if one guy gets in foul trouble you can sub him out. Your guards are less liable to get in foul trouble and they're usually better conditioned to stay in the game longer.
Last season we had 6-5, 6-7, 6-8, playing in the front court and we sacrificed a lot in terms of perimeter defense to accommodate rebounding / post defense liabilities. A frontcourt where we can rotate through:
PF's -
6-5 - Jeffries
6-7 - Horne
6-8 - Igbanu
C's -
6-10 - Antun
6-9 - Hewitt
We can always go smaller with guys like Jeffries, Horne, and Igbanu... but in the cases where we're getting eaten alive inside we need the ability to put in some bigs and to be able to rotate through them.
Last season we had 6-5, 6-7, 6-8, playing in the front court and we sacrificed a lot in terms of perimeter defense to accommodate rebounding / post defense liabilities. A frontcourt where we can rotate through:
PF's -
6-5 - Jeffries
6-7 - Horne
6-8 - Igbanu
C's -
6-10 - Antun
6-9 - Hewitt
We can always go smaller with guys like Jeffries, Horne, and Igbanu... but in the cases where we're getting eaten alive inside we need the ability to put in some bigs and to be able to rotate through them.
I don't agree with @astonmartin708 often, but he's right on this one, especially in Haith's system. If we can land Antun, having him and Hewitt for the C position and Igbanu being the tweener before 4 and 5 makes Haith's offense extremely effective.
Haith's system is 1-in 4-out. And on defense, it predicates on having a defense abled center.
Also, the two centers aston mentions are not slow trodding centers, they're the type that can run the court, something else required in Haith's system.
Haith's system is 1-in 4-out. And on defense, it predicates on having a defense abled center.
Also, the two centers aston mentions are not slow trodding centers, they're the type that can run the court, something else required in Haith's system.
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Some people are actually thinking Horne is more of a 3 than a 4 so that puts an even greater strain on the PF (maybe a better term would be stretch 4 even though Igbanu's not a huge "stretch") and center positions.
I would love to have him so he can never single handedly destroy our offense again
I will take an interior player who can protect the rim and score from the low block.
Since we have another spot, I’ll take a 40% three point shooter. Shooting has been our downfall in so many big games the past three years. If Zeke can shoot 40% then sign one more. Can never have too many shooters.
Since we have another spot, I’ll take a 40% three point shooter. Shooting has been our downfall in so many big games the past three years. If Zeke can shoot 40% then sign one more. Can never have too many shooters.
What are the thoughts about Jeffries at the 3? My concern with several of our guys is ball handling. I think Jeffries can do it if that improves, same with Jackson and Scott. Horne came here to play the "4" (whatever that means), but he mentioned that in his interview last year with Bruce- this would make sense, but would be the backup to Martins, right?
That's where I hope he ends up playing next season.
I'm hoping he can stay healthy all off-season and be the starter at the 3 in the '19-'20 season.
Hope you are doing well dmarsh, good to see you posting on here again!
Jeffries will be gone by 19-20. He has one year left and should start or get starter minutes next year if we get two big men inside. Korita did very well as the starter last season though. The zone ran much better with him in.
Oof thanks Nevada I meant ‘18-19. Somehow forgot what year we are currently in.
Sports years, that's like dog year's isn't it? I wish we had him for 19'-'20.
With Haith's substitution patterns, I'm guessing we'll get plenty of Jeffries and Korita playing the wing. I'm hoping it's at least 60/40 Jeffries. Didn't Haith want to bring Jeffries off the bench because he didn't think he played well as a starter. I think he is full of it on that. If he holds to that, I hope Haith brings him in 3 minutes into the game... or less.
He might be, but it is a real thing for some players. Back in my glory days (middle school) of basketball. I came off the bench about 1-2 min into the game and then played the rest of the game.
For me, I liked to get a sense of how the two teams were playing.
Yes I’m aware my middle school playing days is not at all equivalent.
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There's plenty out there. D-1 transfers, grad transfers, juco kids. TU is looking at all areas. Here's a good list of who TU is looking at. There are two open scholarships.
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