Only a Democrat can take Trump out now...
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It doesn't matter what you call them, both trump and Hillary think they are above the law. Hillary remind me of Nixon and Trump reminds me of Hitler.
All that needs to happen is for Trump to pick Rubio as his running mate and allow the Islamic terrorists, Mexican cartels and american Marxists to go after him. With Trump gone, President Rubio takes charge. Problem solved. 
My wife watches the view. They were discussing the bad things Republicans do.They wete insensted that bho's full name 'Barack HUSAIN Obama was used by his oppisition in the 08 campaign. Accusing the reps.
Fact check. That reference was used
FIRST during the Democrat debates. Either by John Kerry HEINZ, or Joe biden.
Fact check. That reference was used
FIRST during the Democrat debates. Either by John Kerry HEINZ, or Joe biden.
Why is it wrong to refer to a man by his full legal name?
Franklin Delano Roosevelt , Harry S Truman , Dwight David Eisenhower , John Fitzgerald Kennedy , Lyndon Baines Johnson , Richard Milhouse Nixon , James Earl Carter , Ronald Wilson Reagan , George Herman Walker Bush , William Jefferson Clinton, George Walker Bush , Barack Hussein Obama . No other president had an off limits middle name.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt , Harry S Truman , Dwight David Eisenhower , John Fitzgerald Kennedy , Lyndon Baines Johnson , Richard Milhouse Nixon , James Earl Carter , Ronald Wilson Reagan , George Herman Walker Bush , William Jefferson Clinton, George Walker Bush , Barack Hussein Obama . No other president had an off limits middle name.
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But Obama supporters don't like people using even BHO as an abbreviation. It certainly isn't an attack on someone to call them by their name .
The band wagon is getting underway. Frankly, if I had to bet on a winner next fall, it would be Trump. I am moving my portfolio toward a recession scenario.
Reduce revenues, do not cut expenses, increase the national debt, build walls, export all undocumented workers, scare the bejeezus out of our friends and enemies...what could go wrong?
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Sorry but integrity and self-respect prevents me from supporting either of the two main party candidates. (not judging ones integrity of they do indeed support the orange man or the pathological liar).
Once again Watu and vitriolic and bitter for no reason whatsoever eastcane, are attempting to throw rational republicans and conservative Democrats on the board into the Trumper category. I am assuming this is because they have very few rational arguments that hold any real weight in the debate.
I would ask when or if they plan to stop this, but I think they have no plans to stop, all the way to the bitter end. Eastcane is getting really boring with his/her repetitive diatribe.
I would ask when or if they plan to stop this, but I think they have no plans to stop, all the way to the bitter end. Eastcane is getting really boring with his/her repetitive diatribe.
I, TUMe, Poke, and a # of other voters and fellow TU board posters have stated our opinions very clearly, but there is always a steady stream of incredulous remarks questioning our honesty like, "Poke is voting for the orange man."
Because I(we) don't get down on our knees and bow to the great Oz of Hillary you are irritated? I suspect Hillary for her probable misdeeds, but I don't want her to go to jail for them because that might be just the opportunity Trump needs.(And I doubt she will based on the proof and/or possible proof they might have on her) I and most of the people I was referring to(rational donkeys & conservative elephants) criticize both of them. I see you and your ilk on this board criticizing Trump and then all but refusing to criticize Hillary. Do you expect me or anybody else to believe that Hillary is a great candidate? She is the best of a really bad litter of two. That's not much of a perfect choice, but at the moment it's all we've got.
I will even take her business acumen over his, now that I've heard his ignorant remarks that tell me he might run roughshod over the economy.(I question if he ever took an Economics course after some of the dumb ass recent remarks he has made.) But very rarely will I simply say I really agree with her viewpoint on such and such. I almost always will say her view is better than Trumps. That's not much of a bar to get over.
Separate remark not relating to Hillary, and deserves it's own post.
Obama gets vilified because of what people think he stands for just as much as for what he does. He is socialistic, black, intelligent & aristocratic. Regrettably all of those adjectives are dirty words in a lot of people's personal dictionary's. And there are too many people out there who find ALL of those adjectives as dirty words. So even if all of his actions were perfect, many people would still find fault with him for reason's of their own prejudices.
That is a lot to overcome. So when he does things like spearheading a deal with Iran, it gets even harder.(His biggest mistake in my opinion.) Him being humble before other leaders(bowing to Saudi Prince) might have ok if he were any of our recent leaders.(Bush I or II, Clinton, Reagan etc) But he is already breaking too many taboos for him to pull off breaking that one, without catching any flak. His treatment of Europe, Muslims, Hispanics, LGBT's, etc. with rights and respect is also breaking too many taboos. So do I have criticisms of Obama? Without a doubt I do. Are some of them huge, yes they are. A large contingent of my friends & family think he's the worst president we've ever had. But that's to be expected in Oklahoma, we're a rural red state.
My criticisms are not nearly so harsh. I think Obama will come out looking a lot better in twenty years, and maybe moreso than most presidents do. I hope my friends and family are amongst those people whose opinion is altered at least slightly. But he has a lot more than JUST racial barriers he has to overcome in the public's eye. He seems like a quiet a bull in a China Closet,(if that makes any sense) and sometimes for his own sake I wish he would slow his thrash down a bit.
Obama gets vilified because of what people think he stands for just as much as for what he does. He is socialistic, black, intelligent & aristocratic. Regrettably all of those adjectives are dirty words in a lot of people's personal dictionary's. And there are too many people out there who find ALL of those adjectives as dirty words. So even if all of his actions were perfect, many people would still find fault with him for reason's of their own prejudices.
That is a lot to overcome. So when he does things like spearheading a deal with Iran, it gets even harder.(His biggest mistake in my opinion.) Him being humble before other leaders(bowing to Saudi Prince) might have ok if he were any of our recent leaders.(Bush I or II, Clinton, Reagan etc) But he is already breaking too many taboos for him to pull off breaking that one, without catching any flak. His treatment of Europe, Muslims, Hispanics, LGBT's, etc. with rights and respect is also breaking too many taboos. So do I have criticisms of Obama? Without a doubt I do. Are some of them huge, yes they are. A large contingent of my friends & family think he's the worst president we've ever had. But that's to be expected in Oklahoma, we're a rural red state.
My criticisms are not nearly so harsh. I think Obama will come out looking a lot better in twenty years, and maybe moreso than most presidents do. I hope my friends and family are amongst those people whose opinion is altered at least slightly. But he has a lot more than JUST racial barriers he has to overcome in the public's eye. He seems like a quiet a bull in a China Closet,(if that makes any sense) and sometimes for his own sake I wish he would slow his thrash down a bit.
Let me make a point if I may. There are about 10 people who post on here regularly. Maybe no more than another 10 who read but don't post. WATU got one thing right quite awhile back. This is entertainment, albeit an odd form.
This group will not decide who is the next president, whether bathrooms will be totally discontinued or who is secretly for Trump. We probably can't agree on why he is orange.
Most of us are fans of the University of Tulsa Athletics. The original intent of this board was to keep this junk off of the football and basketball boards. It has done that. I don't think it is even moderated any more unless there is a complaint [I have no way of knowing]. So we are all in this together. Let's make Crossfire great again.
On bathrooms, very high tech bathrooms should be built and paid for by a temporary use fee until they are paid for much like the Turner Turnpike....uh...uh...forget that. Party On Garth!
This group will not decide who is the next president, whether bathrooms will be totally discontinued or who is secretly for Trump. We probably can't agree on why he is orange.
Most of us are fans of the University of Tulsa Athletics. The original intent of this board was to keep this junk off of the football and basketball boards. It has done that. I don't think it is even moderated any more unless there is a complaint [I have no way of knowing]. So we are all in this together. Let's make Crossfire great again.
On bathrooms, very high tech bathrooms should be built and paid for by a temporary use fee until they are paid for much like the Turner Turnpike....uh...uh...forget that. Party On Garth!
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