Murray St. game thread
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We need 2. we need a 6'8" 260lb center that was suspended from high school about 5 times for fighting, and a guard that will take his first shot instead of pump faking it and driving into 4 players while throwing up a prayer.
We dont execute pick and rolls well. Guards aren't good passers and bigs dont catch passes while moving very well. Several games I've thought pick and roll would have helped us but I just dont think we have the skill set to run it successfully on a consistent basis.
Its not talent. Its shooters. You need many different skillsets in bball. I've never seen a rotation collectively worse at shooting the ball than this rotation.
As I posted weeks ago, its a credit to their hard work and character they've gotten this far.
You add a big who can hit 60% of layups and a guard who can hit 40% on open 3's, and we've filled the need gaps.
As I posted weeks ago, its a credit to their hard work and character they've gotten this far.
You add a big who can hit 60% of layups and a guard who can hit 40% on open 3's, and we've filled the need gaps.
We've played hard all season. Dont get overly focused on the last 10min. Where we're down 20 in the last game of season. The effort was there early, they were just hitting everything. Inside. Outside.
You know, you are down 23, Shaq has lost his mind and is just dribbling all over the court, and we continue to try to drive the lane. No one will pull the trigger from outside. This is just weird. Don't know how they expect to catch up unless the hold Murray scoreless most of the rest of the game.
were getting beat in every single statistical category possible except for offensive rebounds, and if Murray state would miss a shot every once in a while they would probably be leading that one as well.
The craziest weirdest thing about this team is that NO ONE WANTS TO SHOOT OPEN SHOTS except Wright and Woodard. Problem is Wright is Wright and Woodard is guarded pretty damn well most nights.
Haith needs to run 5-6 guys off and get players.
Haith needs to run 5-6 guys off and get players.
Cameron Payne is a Tubby Smith son look-a-like....Saul Smith. He looks physically weak ,but man hes got a nice drop back shooting motion. How can Murray State recruit pure shooters and TU cannot. I don't get it. Is recruiting that hard at TU ?
Time to play for pride.
I was afraid we'd look like this against half the teams in our league.
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I was afraid we'd look like this against half the teams in our league.
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I agree its hard to fault Shaq. If we had a structured offense with scores who we needed to get the ball to in places they could score, then yes he doesnt need to be dribbling around all helter-skelter. But we really dont have anyone that even wants to shoot, so he's in a bad spot. I appreciate that he tries to create something.
If TU was given the ball exclusively from the 10 minute mark through the end of the game, they couldn't have caught up...
Until late in the season Haith did a masterful job hiding our deficiencies. When you have only one fairly consistent scorer, have no low post game because the big man you counted on regressed, and the team can't reliably make free throws, I think we had a fairly good season. Our weaknesses just got exposed late. Murray State is just a good team.
That reminded me of Reed-Swanson-Harrington raining 3's down on opponents.
We need some serious shooters...
Wow.. Just wow.
We need some serious shooters...
Wow.. Just wow.
Jesse hope you never ask me to shoot 20 3s then I'm absolutely horrendous at it 
but I get your point. The poor 3pt shooting has been a major frustration all season.
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but I get your point. The poor 3pt shooting has been a major frustration all season.Posted from Rivals Mobile
Prohm did not make one 3 pointer, neither did Haith. Give Haith the Murray State players and he would have won also. Woodard hits 10 3's against SMU and can not make a 3 tonight and you blame a coach for that ? Murray State has players who can hit an outside shot, TU is miserably inconsistant. They need some inside muscle badly..they need a 42 % 3 point shooter badly....they need players who can shoot free throws. Only Woodard, Ray and Wright make free throws, the rest just are throwing the ball up at the rim w/ any touch. College basketball is all about one thing...recruiting and TU needs to do alot of it.
TU played hard all night. TU rebounded the ball better (MSU may have had more rebounds but that is solely due to TU missing so many more shots). TU forced more turnovers. TU got to the rim at will. The difference was TU missed a ton of lay ups and MSU hit an abnormal number of 3s. It is not a fluke that MSU won but the margin of victory was a fluke. There really isn't much of a talent gap. MSU hit 38% of their 3s on the year. That is great but 60% is a fluke.
TUs needs are obvious. Someone that can score in the post. Another outside shooter. If someone could teach Harrison to shoot from 15 feet, he would be unguardable. One more shooter would help Smith more than anyone. He could be very difficult to guard on the high post if he had a second option for a kick out if he couldn't get to the rim.
TUs needs are obvious. Someone that can score in the post. Another outside shooter. If someone could teach Harrison to shoot from 15 feet, he would be unguardable. One more shooter would help Smith more than anyone. He could be very difficult to guard on the high post if he had a second option for a kick out if he couldn't get to the rim.
Yeah, this town crapped out late in the year. It's a really fair weather place these days. How did we sell out CBI games and not this?Originally posted by TUBballJunkie:
I'm also disappointed in the lack of fan support.
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People actually thought that team was special with Uzoh and Jordan. Thought this was going to be the beginning of a long successful run of basketball.
Two years later they had all seen enough.
This team overachieved in the middle of the year. We were 5-5 in our first 10 and 2 and 4 in our last 6 for a 7-9 record with only one or two decent victories (Memphis for one). In between we went 16-2. Fantastic stretch by anyone's measure. However, it was fool's gold. This team has a bunch of holes to fill.
You can say, well we missed 16 layups in the last game, we shot poorly from three and they were lights out. All true, but all that means is we don't have the talent to finish at the rim, shoot free throws (except tonight), or consistently shoot the three ball.
When something happens over and over, it stops being a fluke and becomes the norm. Our norm is not at a high enough level to be a tournament team at this time. We have only one year left with this very large class of players. All have two years of post season experience now. Without some MAJOR improvement and some MAJOR additions, next year we will be lucky to be a top 4 team in this conference and that won't be dancing again. Let's see where we are rated preseason.
I want us to succeed. I live and die by our basketball team. Have for 50 years. I just fear we may be another major overhaul from getting back to being a top 25-35 team unless this group of coaches pulls some shooting rabbits out of their axxes.
This post was edited on 3/24 12:19 AM by T Up
+1. TU has a lot of holes to fill and none of them can be filled with players from the current roster. Unless Haith has a Kurtz, a Shelton and a Ruffin waiting in the wings (and that is a very tall order to fill), I don't see TU as an NCAA tournament team next year. It's going to be tough to sweep Memphis, Houston and Temple next year. Hope I'm wrong. I haven't quite lost the bitter taste from the meltdown vs. UCONN in the semifinals.
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