Kevin Wilson
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Bull on that excuse that it's more culture snd strategy. Our offense has a poor offenive line which holds the whole offense. Our defense has a crap secondary which allows us to stop the run because of our DL & and LBers but not the pass. Those things at least play an equal part to culture and strategy flaws.
The best example I can come up with is that Steve Kragthorpe jumped into the dumpster and put out the fire, then took the hand he was dealt and turned it into something respectable right away.
I don’t think Wilson inherited that big of a mess, yet it’s now worse than it was when he found it. He may very well be a pretty good recruiter but someone has to coach those guys up and make them better players.
I don’t think Wilson inherited that big of a mess, yet it’s now worse than it was when he found it. He may very well be a pretty good recruiter but someone has to coach those guys up and make them better players.
The silver lining of course is this group of freshmen. I wish that so many didn't need to be thrown into the fire right out of the gate, but that's where we're at. Wilson has always proclaimed that he wants this to be a developmental program, and that takes time as well as retention. Let's hope retention is good and KW 's plan that will be validated as these kids continue to see more time on the field. Beyond just smarts, Army and Navy are both 5-0 because they are developmental programs that keep their kids on campus and grow them in their respective systems.
Defense on the other hand needs a new coordinator. Far too many fundamental failures once anything gets past the line of scrimmage and linebackers.
Navy was awful and then a new coach came in and bam they were successful. I don’t think KW will be around long enough to see his “plan” through
When is Wilson finally going to start to develop in his developmental program?
I stayed for every bad play... every screen pass... but, mainly because one of my college classmates' father comes and sits with us at the half... its always fun to catch up with my adoptive family..
I don't know anything but my feeling is that most coaches come in and try to make the best they can of the players they have while also trying to get recruits who are better or fit the system better. Wilson, kind of true to his personality, seemed more like, "you're not my kind of player, on the bench" even if it meant playing worse guys. In other words, he's a pull the bandaid off kind of guy to get who he wants on the team, even if it hurts more in the short run. Thoughts?
It will be a very short run if we dont see improvement and a few wins over teams we should beat..
We have an opportunity.. OSU really sucks right now (despite the score), we sold a lot of tickets to local OSU fans, most of those were locals looking for a good time. If we show them a good time, maybe they return, use those tickets, and buy a few beers. If we dont well, we lose an opportunity to earn some local fans. We NEED non associated butts in the stands. I hate non TU colors in the stands but, I hate empty seats more. Empty seats dont impress recruits, donors, or more casual fans.
On a separate note, I counted 50.. 50 people walking AWAY from the stadium with the giveaway hat. There has to be a better way. Vouchers redeemed after the 3rd quarter, or something. Loyal fans that went to the tailgate, socialized at the GHC tent, and participated in the gameday festivities were shut out by transient walkups..
Because we haven’t paid market or conference rates for coaches since Graham. Or provided comparable facilities since Graham — and those cuts corners every place they could.
Saban’s books are so instructive on these issues, especially his theories about the inertia and complacency of institutions and processes even when people within them are properly motivated.
We’ve seen it in this thread. The institution had success 40 years ago. And we still think all we have to do is buy two players and suddenly all our problems will be solved. It no longer works that way. We’ve had teams with multiple NBA players on them and we languished. There are no short cuts.
Build it. Everyone will come. Fans, coaches, players, etc.
We refuse to build it and the networks, conferences, conference members and casual fans doubt we are serious. Because we aren’t.
We beat Notre Dame the last time the industry treated us as acting semi serious. More of that please.
Otherwise, Justin is spinning his wheels.
Thanks for doing that.
One of the benefits of being a fan of a small program is the individual relationships you can gain through constructive dialog and positive contributions with senior administrators and staff. Some have become old friends through the years.
Thanks
I sent an email to Justin on Sunday with my concerns.
Yeah… I miss the excitement of the graham era. We had swagger, confidence, and a legit chance to win every time we stepped on the field. He had his shortcomings for sure, but his pros outweighed his cons.
Hopefully Dave Shittler doesn’t have any input on the next HC…
Graham's biggest strength was his ability to hire a very good staff.
I sent him one as well, polite but direct that I wanted to know if there is even a plan for football to be good ? I also stated I’m not expecting a top 5 team by any means but that we should be winning at least 6-8 games in this new conference a year
I think copying Brad Carson on these emails is impootant as well. Thanks.
I somehow don't think he minds, honestly. Carson is a winner and wants to win.
We are in a much better place program wise at this point...just have to get this next hire right.
Odd thing about Coopers time was that TU had many great years, but no bowl game appearances. Very few bowls existed during his tenure. Cooper was my favorite TU coach, and his weekly luncheons were first rate.
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President Carson gives out his personal cell phone number to parents and students each year at Freshman orientation. He encourages its use and responds to each message nightly. I’m sure that he will read and respond to emails as well.
He gave his number out on a podcast as well. He seems genuine about wanting feedback.
I know that guy! He was in the army for a while and only roots against an academy when they play TU. He also used to live across the street from the stadium in the late 1960s and would go to games.
Of Haisten or Michael Peters...because the only suggestions we'll get from them are Loren Montgomery should be the next coach at TU because TU can't possibly draw in a top level assistant because we can't pay as much as they want and we don't have the commitment from fans or admin to really compete on a national level...and then they make their annual suggestion that maybe we should drop down to FCS
I assure you we are going to offer GOOD money to the next head coach. Money isn't an issue.
Ugh. As a college admin, and one that worked at ORU where everyone felt they could bypass areas and go straight to the pastor (president) to get what they wanted, this is an absolute nightmare. They call the President directly claiming they're having the biggest problem and haven't gotten any help in getting it solved when in fact the student hasn't gone to anyone at the university who might be able to help them and just whined to mommy and daddy about how awful their roommate. Mommy and Daddy, instead of pushing their child to act like an adult and go to the RA or the hall director or even the Dean of Students, put on their snowplows and call the Pres directly because he said they could. Pres makes assumptions and wonders why no one has helped this student. Well, the student would have to tell us there was a problem first.
As helpful as you might think it is to have a direct line to the president, it really just makes matters worse
But we're just little old TU...why would we waste money on a good coach when it can be put to good use academically. I mean why does TU even try to be relevant in D1 athletics...we should leave that to the OU and OSU athlete factories in Oklahoma.
What a stupid ass comment. Go be a fan of someone else. Our president and AD both want to win...and the new AD can make his mark on football.
Dude....you obviously haven't been on this board long enough to realize that was all sarcasm based on previous beat writers and the stupid ass
they write because TU is tiny. Most of the long timers on this board know I've been around and a die hard TU fan for more than 30 years. I despise the way the local media treats us.Sorry. The stress of losing has taken it out of me!Dude....you obviously haven't been on this board long enough to realize that was all sarcasm based on previous beat writers and the stupid ass
Breh you need a natty light and a chill pill. He was clearly taking jabs at the terrible attitude the tw has toward TU.
Every time I read a comment like that, I immediately wonder how quickly Heff will get all wound up about it. I really think some topics are thrown out here just to see what type of response they will get.
Heff should listen to his Taylor Swift/Michael Bolton mix tap for a bit. That will calm him down.
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