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Is Trump now the inevitable Republican candidate?

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I don't see anything stopping him at this point. national newspaper diatribes, national Republican press, former Presidential candidates, bashing by Fox...nothing sees to dent him.

At this point it appears that either Trump takes the candidacy or the Republican party will be face an uprising.

Other countries which have counted on the US to be the stable, adult in international relations are increasingly concerned as well.

Does anyone see it working out any other way?
 
Yes, no and maybe . He really doesn't have that much of a commanding lead and delegate count . The time is getting short . I think the original plan of divide the states is not going to get it. Oh, Kasich may hold Ohio, but Rubio is history. If the plan is to stop Trump, it's Ted or dead.
 
Likely....yes Inevitable....not yet. He has 458 delegates to date or slightly less than 45% of those which have been awarded. The Reps will almost certainly have a brokered convention if those numbers persist. I'm not sure Trump wins a brokered convention. The Reps need the Dems primary rules so they can stack 1/3 of the delegates with party insiders and lobbyist who will vote with the RNC.
 
TUMe said:
Yes, no and maybe . He really doesn't have that much of a commanding lead and delegate count . The time is getting short . I think the original plan of divide the states is not going to get it. Oh, Kasich may hold Ohio, but Rubio is history. If the plan is to stop Trump, it's Ted or dead.
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Wow, Rubio seems to have fallen in a hidden chasm. And I thought he would be the eventual winner. Shows what I know.

Imagine the fireworks if Trump loses out in a brokered convention.
 
WATU2 said:
Wow, Rubio seems to have fallen in a hidden chasm. And I thought he would be the eventual winner. Shows what I know.

Imagine the fireworks if Trump loses out in a brokered convention.
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If it is brokered from the start yes . If however, no one gets 50% then it wouldn't be as outrageous as if something were done before that. We are only at the halfway point and soon we'll be down to two choices.
 
Bashing by Fox? There are maybe two people on Fox that have a bad thing to say about him(thank God for Megan Kelly). Hannity is practically a Trump pravda and he holds hour long Trump rallies the night be before each primary. I watch CNN almost exclusively now.

Seems like best case scenario now is preventing Trump from getting 1237 and forming a Cruz/Rubio ticket at the convention. If he had been hit hard earlier, before his fans developed a relationship with him we probably wouldn't be in this situation. It is what it is.
 
Fox would never allow the type of questioning he's been subjected to during their debates if the network supported his candidacy. He's been treated substantially different than the other candidates. There's no way that Megan Kelly went rogue. She most certainly has the support of her higher ups.
 
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I'm not of the belief that the anchors are simply top-down controlled. Tantaros, Pirro, Hannity, Bolling, and all the Fox and Friends people are all in for Trump. There are a few dissenters, Kelly and Gutfeld being notable, but that's about it. Fox is in the business of making money and Trump is good for that.
 
URedskin54 said:
If he had been hit hard earlier, before his fans developed a relationship with him we probably wouldn't be in this situation. It is what it is.
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See, I think his fans were going to be his fans regardless.

The hitting earlier would have been more about mobilizing the anyone but Trumps.
 
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Hmmm. Cruz/Rubio ticket?
Is Fiorina hoping to be Trump's Veep?
 
I thought the Republican candidates acted almost adult-like last night--for the first time. They actually discussed issues. All seem lost and try to avoid discussion of military/foreign affairs.
 
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This whole primary cycle is kind of like stalling your car on a RR crossing... then your doorhandle snaps off with train barreling toward you. The GOP have been running on a jalopy of a platform for years now, and it's coming to bite them in the ass.
 
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astonmartin708 said:
This whole primary cycle is kind of like stalling your car on a RR crossing... then your doorhandle snaps off with train barreling toward you. The GOP have been running on a jalopy of a platform for years now, and it's coming to bite them in the ass.
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The GOP have been running milquetoast RINO candidates going back to Gerald Ford.. With the brief Reagan interlude... I'm surprised it has taken this long for them to go the way of the Whigs.
 
LOL.

Reagan would have to run as Democrat today - to the left of Hillary. While Reagan was in office, he:

Tripled the national debt
Raised taxes - 7 out of 8 years
Refused to limit women's right to choose
Sent arms to Iran - illegally
Funneled dough to the Afghans who became today's Taliban
Gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
Increased Federal employment dramatically
And more...

Yet Rush and the rest of the far right Republicans continually bow down to his example. Myth over reality seems to be the theme.
 
To be fair, Reagan mad deals with the Dems regarding tax increases to get the projects he wanted passed. Most of the increase in spending was directed at rebuilding a military complex which was poor shape.

GDP averaged over 3%
Poverty level dropped
Federal receipts grew by 60% while outlays grew by 53%
Top 10% of taxpayers paid an increased share while the bottom 50% paid less.
Debt did increase by $1.3B over his 8 year term. Contrast that to the increase of $8 TRILLION over the last seven years.

The key stat imo that real median family income rose $4,000 during the Reagan presidency.
 
Exactly my point. Today's right wingers remember some of the good results, but not what RR did to achieve them which go completely against today's right wing mythology. Tax cuts? Immigration? Iran? Deficit? National Debt? Reagan? Really?

And RR got to work with Tip O'Neil not the current Congress of "NO'!

No wonder the Trumpster can sell whatever he wants to this group of backers.
 
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Reagan was a master of giver and take with Tip....and it worked. He would cut taxes here to spur growth and median income and then raise them over there. Can you imagine our country today with those economic numbers?

No one seriously talks about the national debt anymore. Likewise the state of social security and Medicare. Campaigns are based on promises of "free" stuff and changing things to address perceived "threats". The pandering of politicians today was unheard of in the 1980s.

Reagan was not to the left of where Hillary has gone in the primary. However, he is nowhere near to the right as most the Rep candidates. I still assert Trump is far right on one issue while being middle to left his entire life on almost every other position. His supporters either don't know or don't care. Assume it's a little of both.
 
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WATU2 said:
LOL.

Reagan would have to run as Democrat today - to the left of Hillary. While Reagan was in office, he:

Tripled the national debt
Raised taxes - 7 out of 8 years
Refused to limit women's right to choose
Sent arms to Iran - illegally
Funneled dough to the Afghans who became today's Taliban
Gave amnesty to 3 million undocumented immigrants
Increased Federal employment dramatically
And more...

Yet Rush and the rest of the far right Republicans continually bow down to his example. Myth over reality seems to be the theme.
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Funny.. But you forget your history.. Reagan was a democrat before the party became overrun with its current crop of socialists....

Lookout.. Charlie's in the trees!
 
lawpoke87 said:
I still assert Trump is far right on one issue while being middle to left his entire life on almost every other position. His supporters either don't know or don't care. Assume it's a little of both.
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Trump is the next step in anti-government campaign that the Republicans have been waging for decades to disguise digging their hands deeper into taxpayer pockets. People have caught on and are angry at do-nothing Congress.

The only thing I agree with Trump on is the control deep pockets have had on Congress. But did he propose campaign reform? No. He just amplifies peoples' anger and promises to make it all better.
 
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WATU2 said:
Trump is the next step in anti-government campaign that the Republicans have been waging for decades to disguise digging their hands deeper into taxpayer pockets. People have caught on and are angry at do-nothing Congress.

The only thing I agree with Trump on is the control deep pockets have had on Congress. But did he propose campaign reform? No. He just amplifies peoples' anger and promises to make it all better.
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I don't 100% agree with this statement, but the turn of phrase to throw it back at you is incredible on my admirability scale. Not being sarcastic by any means. If you exhibited this skill in front of any candidate whether it be Bernie, Hillary, Trump, Rubio, etc., you would probably be offered a speech writing job on the spot.(Unless you kiped it, which would probably eliminate you from hire for anyone other than Trump.)
 
Trump will threaten a third party run when the Reps have a brokered convention and that's alright by me since i have absolutely no plans of voting for that squinty eyed, fat, old, creep come election day.
 
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Trump had a bad night on a small scale. He got around 0 delegates in DC and approximately 1 from Wyoming** losing to Rubio and Cruz in those delegations. Not a big night but I'll take holding him to 1 out of 30 delegates.

**For some reason known only to Wyoming, they vote March 1 and give half of their delegates tonight and half in a few weeks. Has to do with districts versus state wide.
 
Watched the curfuffle on tv.
The commentators claimed the event was caused by DT radical ideas.

1. Wanting to enforce our immigration laws
2. Thinking that accepting Muslim "refugees", is a bad idea. Europe agrees
3. Thinks that there are too many people on welfare.
4. That signing less than 20% of the uninsured makes obamacare a failure
5. Think that the 1st and 2nd amendments are important.
6. Think that ALL LIVES MATTER.
7. veterans deserve more than welfare people.
8. Retired people on social security/medicare have paid for it.
. . .

If this is radical talk, then maybe over the past few years, we have ventured from common sense
 
When a politically active billionaire acts to silence free speech and the press blames the speaker we have lost as a society. I realize Libs are becoming more and more intolerant to speech they don't agree with and have organized to silence the same. Yet, they support speech and a group who speaks of murdering police officers....crazy times.

To hell with the First admendment and the protections the same provides us all. Money is now organizing to silence that speech of which they disagree. Amazing they fail to see the big picture here. Ignorance knows no limits.
 
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The justice dept has made efforts to criminally charge climate change deniers.
 
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lawpoke87 said:
When a politically active billionaire acts to silence free speech and the press blames the speaker we have lost as a society. I realize Libs are becoming more and more intolerant to speech they don't agree with and have organized to silence the same. Yet, they support speech and a group who speaks of murdering police officers....crazy times.

To hell with the First admendment and the protections the same provides us all. Money is now organizing to silence that speech of which they disagree. Amazing they fail to see the big picture here. Ignorance knows no limits.
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Yeah, at this point I might dislike the protesters even more than Trump because they've made me side with him on something.
 
aTUfan said:
Watched the curfuffle on tv.
The commentators claimed the event was caused by DT radical ideas.

1. Wanting to enforce our immigration laws
2. Thinking that accepting Muslim "refugees", is a bad idea. Europe agrees
3. Thinks that there are too many people on welfare.
4. That signing less than 20% of the uninsured makes obamacare a failure
5. Think that the 1st and 2nd amendments are important.
6. Think that ALL LIVES MATTER.
7. veterans deserve more than welfare people.
8. Retired people on social security/medicare have paid for it.
. . .

If this is radical talk, then maybe over the past few years, we have ventured from common sense
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It is also just telling you what you want to hear. He's also sold a lot of other things which people now deeply regret.

BTW as a Vietnam Vet, I don't think I deserve more than my friends who served in the Peace Corps. Why? Because contributing society can take many forms. PS I also like the other Amendments to the Constitution. Why stop at the first two?
 
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