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What happened to that $30 million gift from an "anonymous donor" that was supposed to go directly to athletics (and I presume some of that to NIL money)?
 
Elite D linemen don’t grow on trees. G5 schools generally have difficulty in signing the few quality D linemen out there. This problem is now magnified with the advent of NIL. This isn’t just a Tulsa problem
 
There are FCS programs paying $100,000 or more, yearly, for D linemen, each.

I’m skeptical TU will ever pay competitive prices for that type of labor cost without significant changes to the structuring of the athletic department and the funding of other sports.
 
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There are FCS programs paying $100,000 or more, yearly, for D linemen, each.

I’m skeptical TU will ever pay competitive prices for that type of labor cost without significant changes to the structuring of the athletic department and the funding of other sports.
Lamb has gone on record saying TU will be in the top 4 in the league in player compensation. To me, that sounds like we’re willing to pay for talent. Can we offer $1m-$2m per guy? Probably not, but being in the top top 1/4 of the league in player compensation should be able to buy us some decent talent at several positions in need.
 
Lamb has gone on record saying TU will be in the top 4 in the league in player compensation. To me, that sounds like we’re willing to pay for talent. Can we offer $1m-$2m per guy? Probably not, but being in the top top 1/4 of the league in player compensation should be able to buy us some decent talent at several positions in need.
The math just doesn’t add up. $28,500 a roster spot gets you to 3 million. With nothing left over for basketball, soccer, or the girls.
 
You guys want a Top 25 or Top 10 G5 team. $28500 won’t get you a back up kicker in the FCS.
So… if we’re “top 4 in the AAC” in player compensation (direct quote from Lamb), the majority of the league must be paying their players less. Not sure how fcs schools are paying more for their kickers than the top of the aac.
 
So… if we’re “top 4 in the AAC” in player compensation (direct quote from Lamb), the majority of the league must be paying their players less. Not sure how fcs schools are paying more for their kickers than the top of the aac.
Huffy is just bitching to bitch. Some people just find stuff to complain about.

Spoiler: FCS teams aren't paying more for kickers than the top of the aac...idiotic nonsense being spewed.
 
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Huffy is just bitching to bitch. Some people just find stuff to complain about.

Spoiler: FCS teams aren't paying more for kickers than the top of the aac...idiotic nonsense being spewed.
Grasping.

Teams trying to win in the FCS are paying considerably more than some AAC teams at all positions. IOW teams that aren’t trying to win.

And I presume you are expecting to win.

When kids are turning down TU and signing with the FCS it is almost always because our cash offer is being matched and exceeded. Including backup kickers.
 
Grasping.

Teams trying to win in the FCS are paying considerably more than some AAC teams at all positions. IOW teams that aren’t trying to win.

And I presume you are expecting to win.

When kids are turning down TU and signing with the FCS it is almost always because our cash offer is being matched and exceeded. Including backup kickers.
So let me get this straight. You’re asserting the following:

1. TU is not trying to win in football

2. FCS programs are paying substantially more for players than TU.

3. FCS programs are paying substantially more for players than the majority of the AAC.

4. Most of the teams in the AAC don’t want to win.

5. There have been many occasions where kids have turned down TU to play at the FCS level purely based on money.

6. There have been many occasions where kids have turned down top tier AAC schools to play at the FCS level purely based on money.

Do I have all that correct?
 
1. TU isn’t doing what needs to be done to win consistently. If they win, great. If not, must be the AD’s fault.

2. SOME FCS programs, those that are trying to win,

3. See 2

4. SOME. See 1.

5. It’s a non zero number

6. It’s a significant non zero number particularly at the skill position.
 
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I asked the coach if he had enough NIL to compete with the top third of the ACC. He said yes and expected the fund to improve, as wins will help. Win 6 games and a bowl and the cash will come IMO. Yes, we need to get to 5M. Let me dream 1M for each line 1/2M for QBs and the rest 1st team gets rewarded at least double everyone else with top guys even more. Two and three deep guys will have to be paid less until they can get to 70% of 1st team snaps. It will always be a steep road for the AAC teams. Heck OU doesn't have enough money.
Let's see what happens, GO TU
 
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So if we’re top 4 in NIL in the AAC and we aren’t top 4 in the conference standings then Lamb has performed below expectations….correct? Lamb certainly put some pressure on himself with that disclosure
 
I don’t know if that’s fair, but I see your point. I think it’s a little naive to think lamb will come in year one and have us competing for a conference championship, but stranger things have happened. Now if we’re in year 2 or 3 and we aren’t competing at a high level while paying what the top do the league is paying then I’ll be in full agreement.
 
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I don’t know if that’s fair, but I see your point. I think it’s a little naive to think lamb will come in year one and have us competing for a conference championship, but stranger things have happened. Now if we’re in year 2 or 3 and we aren’t competing at a high level while paying what the top do the league is paying then I’ll be in full agreement.
For better or worse, Lamb doesn't seem to hide from high expectations.
 
1. TU isn’t doing what needs to be done to win consistently. If they win, great. If not, must be the AD’s fault.

2. SOME FCS programs, those that are trying to win,

3. See 2

4. SOME. See 1.

5. It’s a non zero number

6. It’s a significant non zero number particularly at the skill position.
There are X number of schools that pay more NIL than us. It doesn't matter if a small number are FCS schools, it just matters that we're close to the top in our peer group, as long as we're able to get decent talent. I think where the thread has gone whacky is the implication that a significant number of FCS schools have more NIL than we do, which I think is probably false.
 
I don’t know if that’s fair, but I see your point. I think it’s a little naive to think lamb will come in year one and have us competing for a conference championship, but stranger things have happened. Now if we’re in year 2 or 3 and we aren’t competing at a high level while paying what the top do the league is paying then I’ll be in full agreement.
Lamb gets a year imo to get adjusted. After year one though if we’re paying top 4 money in the league then the expectation should be to finish top 4 as well.
 
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You guys want a Top 25 or Top 10 G5 team. $28500 won’t get you a back up kicker in the FCS.
Then stop paying.

If a small stipend, and the free room and board, free meals, free education, and opportunity for career advancement in football aren't enough for someone who most fans won't even recognize isn't enough then why would I want them? I can tell you that there are a lot of kids who played soccer in HS but weren't good enough to go D1 in soccer who would love a free education and free room and board.

I mean... we won't win... but we also won't be lighting money on fire either.
 
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There are FCS programs paying $100,000 or more, yearly, for D linemen, each.

I’m skeptical TU will ever pay competitive prices for that type of labor cost without significant changes to the structuring of the athletic department and the funding of other sports.
Yes , lets fund all sports equally and be mediocre in all. Sounds more like Dickson than Moore.......
 
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