If Burns was around for years 7 and 8, I'm thinking some signs might have gone up.
Countdown to the Monty firing
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In your opinion Huffy, how do you think things will play out with Montgomery
I don’t know. I know three things:
1) He’s under contract until 2024. He would ordinarily need to be renewed or terminated at the end of this season regardless of wins or losses under ordinary industry customs.
2) Performance metrics failures off the field often trumps any success on the field. But if he goes bowling, and we have another kid or two taken in the draft, it’s tough to see them letting him go. No matter what anyone with “insider” knowledge might say about what they think might happen. Anyone who says they know cannot know. The decision isn’t made that way.
3) There won’t be a shortage of people wanting this job. If someone comes forward who is cheaper and a better fit long term, you might see movement. There’s plenty of coaches out there who can work for nearly free with offsets right now. Some with Tulsa ties.
Should be interesting. Talking about it is fun. Making a fool of yourself in the stadium, in an email, or to Rick won’t influence the decision any particular direction. Decisions like this one are often larger than the concerns of fans or even the administration and involve things beyond money, wins, and even athletics as a whole.
We will be OK either way.
Go to the games. Buy the tickets. Up your Fund donation. That’s the way to influence this decision. It might be only $40, but everyone will need to chip in on any buyout. That starts Saturday if that’s the way you want it to go.
Rick was responsive to my email about the basketball situation and I am glad I contacted him.
So if you have something constructive to contribute beyond the obvious I say go ahead and email Rick. The message can include that you support a coaching change and why.
I have not done it yet because I don't feel I have anything to say this time beyond what is visible to all. That might change and if it does I will email.
Just remember nobody likes chronic complainers. I always try to keep that in mind in these situations. Try to be judicious about such things.
I didn’t say don’t email. I said don’t make a fool of yourself.
It was also an athletic dorm at one time. When I arrived on campus the Pike's were essentially the Tri Lam's of fraternity row.
We had some rough years, but glad things turned around and the house is doing great now.
So not exactly...the resident of the TU apt is obligated to follow certain community rules as well as fire codes. My guess is Campus security and housing could reasonably require it to be taken down from the apt because it violated both community standards and some obscure multi-residential fire code.
The fraternity house is on university property. The fraternity pays the university a small lease fee (like really small, maybe $100 a year) for the house to be on University property. The house itself is owned and operated by the local chapter (and may have some operational duties overseen by the national org...not 100% sure on this). The likely only backlash the local chapter would face is from the Greek advisor and dean of students. Housing has no oversight of the fraternity houses (unlike the residential portions of the sorority houses which are owned and operated by TU Residence Life/Housing ops).
Either way, they were asked to take the banner down on Sunday when a kids group was visiting the row for Trick or Treats.
I signed Burns up online for a Graebel Movers home move estimate...
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Monty poppin' a squat on the sidelines on big plays reminds me of what he's done to this program.
Monty poppin' a squat on the sidelines on big plays reminds me of what he's done to this program.
I sure hope so , surely Dickson and Carson see they will lose money if they keep him
If it’s going to happen… Once there is no chance of redemption (bowl eligibility), and thus no excuse on how his dismissal could affect the remainder of the season would seem logical to me. A good amount of time to vet candidates and make a hire and give the new guy a chance at putting together a team of new recruits, the remaining players and portal players.
Without speaking about this position in particular, it’s not unusual for programs to know a year in advance of a change (or more) who they are going to hire. So the early fire to give extra time to hire is overrated. A lot of times they already know the dude and they start the transition early.
The only reason you fire in season these days is if you know you could lose a lot of talent to the transfer portal if you don’t move quickly. I don’t think TU is in that situation. The damage you do by giving up on the seniors and marginalizing their relationship with someone who by all accounts still has the locker room is something you do not take lightly. The players are the program. They like the guy, in most cases, it’s a good idea in that situation to let them have their year then you deal with internal personnel decisions after the players have played.
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Certainly a reasonable approach based on the fact that Monty is liked by the players. Hell, most of us like the guy, we’re rooting for him to be successful, and wish things would have went differently.
You like a loser who steals millions from the university and is a complete charlatan? To hell with this guy... Golden parachuted redneck that he is
Took a pay cut when we needed it, but stole millions. Calling him a redneck, glass houses.
I understand his confusion. I mean, with hurricane flags everywhere you look, I might think we were the Warriors as well.
Maybe he was talking to Anthony Pritchard, he’s a Webster HS alum who are the Warriors
The funny part is Tulsa fans jumping from the stands... there are not Tulsa fans in the stands so fake news!
I told the Athletic Department I was gone with my GHC (at the time) and am down to one season ticket for my dad two years ago when they resigned Monty. That's after years of financial support.
Monty is NOT a good head coach. He is an assistant at best and it's been obvious for a while.
Monty is NOT a good head coach. He is an assistant at best and it's been obvious for a while.
Phillip is a good decent man that wants his players to be their best. When this door closes, I pray another door opens for him that he can be passion about it.
LT. Joe Kenda said his best job after retiring as Homicide Detective was driving a school bus for elementary kids. It was seeing their bright smiling faces each school day.
Hannibal, your continued posting here seems to indicate we live rent free inside your empty head.
This is the old country boy in me , but if I was Monty , I’d buy 100 acres and build a cabin on on it and enjoy retirement
No, I hate losing as much as the next guy. However, I do prefer decent human beings and tend to hope that those said humans are successful in their endeavors, especially when it involves young men they are charged with leading and representing my alma mater.
He did not steal anything. Rather he worked to the best of his ability for his employer given circumstances, as far as I can tell.
Of course that does not guarantee retention. Best of one's ability is not always enough.
To clarify, I 100% agree with you. I was responding to TulsaGrad07 and his thought of:
"You like a loser who steals millions from the university and is a complete charlatan? To hell with this guy... Golden parachuted redneck that he is
Better stated would have been:
I hate losing as much as the next guy. However, I do prefer decent human beings and tend to hope that those said humans are successful in their endeavors, especially when it involves young men they are charged with leading and representing my Alma mater. Monty hasn't won as much as I'd like to see, but he is a good human, good leader of young men, and has been a good representative of the University. Nothing has been stolen (pretty ridiculous implication) he simply hasn't performed to the level we had hoped for the wage we were willing to pay and he was willing to accept.
as dr. boobay said...he worked to the best of his ability. that says it all
It was not all bad either. Heck he found, signed and developed 2 NFL draft picks and 3 NFL starters.
It is just we all see he has reached his limits given the situation.
Conversely...
gousfbulls.com
Of course they have been even worse.
University of South Florida Makes Leadership Changes In Football Program - USF Athletics
Head Coach Jeff Scott, Defensive Coordinator Bob Shoop Dismissed.
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Of course they have been even worse.
