Clearly we hired the wrong guy
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There is plenty more to jab Montgomery about… and likely some of it is connected to why players supposedly loved him:
Played favorites (those on the short end of that left or don’t comment about how much they loved him)
Held no one accountable
Let academics slip to embarrassingly low levels
Toxic lockeroom
Backhanded shots at TU before he was even on the hot seat
I could go on… but yeah, dudes who weren’t made to go to class, held accountable for their bs, etc probably did like the coach. But it was to the detriment of the program.
That’s what I’m seeing as well. I don’t understand Wilson’s decision to start one over the other at all.
Finally some common sense. I don't know why his name is even brought up around TU anymore. I want that baylor stench gone, completely.
Wilson needs to do what Konkol did after his 1st season and send most of that team packing and start from scratch!
Monty saw relatively few players leave who ended up being any good, the ones who did leave and were good elsewhere tended to be starters (like the 2 CB’s or Devin Lamp). The only other one I can recall who didn’t get a good enough shot was the DB who ended up at Georgia.
Hard to do with the NIL budget we’re likely to have. Colorado tossed so much money at Prime. I don’t think we can do the same
Yeah too bad there are alums out there who refuse to donate to TU’s needs huh
It does. He was talking about playing favorites. Sometimes there are reasons people play favorites.
I’m sure Braylon’s dad was saying Monty played favorites when he started Brinn over Braxton. Now we see why.
As far as academics goes, that’s somewhat of an institutional problem as much as a coach problem. It’s also one that people care a lot less about when you’re winning.
Ronnie says all kinds of stupid sh!t. That wasn’t really what I was talking about, but ok, I’ll concede on that one point. My other points still stand.
The ability and leadership that led us to a great victory over UH is hiding somewhere in BB and if anyone can dig it out of him, it's KDub. I think it's mental after the 1st Q of the 1st game...... the picks plus injury. Get his head straight & he's our starter for 2 more years. That's no knock on Williams who is very good.
Idk man… he has looked absolutely terrible outside of 1-2 decent plays. Stranger things have happened, but I just don’t think he has what we need to run a high level offense.
I agree, but I don't think his dad is of the mindset that would allow a change like that.
I never quite understood that mindset. You could be a QB who is destined to play at a lower division or get no playing time, or you could be a football player who might have a shot at being pro some day. Which should you choose?
At a certain point if I were Braxton, I would be suggesting it to the coaches. Heck, put me in alongside Williams and we can really mix things up from a scheme standpoint!
Based on Ronnie's Twitter shenanigans, I'm not sure he has the foresight for something like that.
I still think it's a little too early to completely judge Wilson at this point. I'm willing to let him continue to recruit... which he's done at a level we haven't seen here for quite some time. 247 has us at 7 and even though I wouldn't consider that good, it's higher than we've been in a long time... even though their metrics weight number of recruits as opposed to quality of recruits. Rivals and On3 have us at 3 in the conference - which is pretty damn good... Even if Cincinnati, Central Florida, and Houston were still in the conference, we'd be sitting at 5 (ahead of Houston)... which isn't bad at all (and much better than the 11ish we usually come in at).
Now are there some things Wilson has done that I don't like? Yes. Most of those have been discussed at length both here and in the Alley. However, it is difficult to distinguish at this point, if those items are related to lingering issues from the previous staff or if they are 100% Wilson's doing. Likely a mixture if we're being honest with ourselves. Wilson will have to adapt some of his approach if he wants to see success sooner rather than later, but the talent deficiencies at many important positions make it difficult to place all the blame on him.
Bottom line is, unless he's just a 100% inept coach, if he continues to recruit at this level, it would be difficult to see us continuing to suck this bad.
Now are there some things Wilson has done that I don't like? Yes. Most of those have been discussed at length both here and in the Alley. However, it is difficult to distinguish at this point, if those items are related to lingering issues from the previous staff or if they are 100% Wilson's doing. Likely a mixture if we're being honest with ourselves. Wilson will have to adapt some of his approach if he wants to see success sooner rather than later, but the talent deficiencies at many important positions make it difficult to place all the blame on him.
Bottom line is, unless he's just a 100% inept coach, if he continues to recruit at this level, it would be difficult to see us continuing to suck this bad.
Of course we can't completely judge Wilson. I will completely judge him in year 3
Cardi cleaned up against Pine Bluff and Temple - he was nearly perfect in those 2 games, 27 of 31 for 477 yards, 6 TDs and 0 INTs.
Against everyone else, he's 46 of 90 for 611 yards, 4 TDs and 7 INTs. On the other hand, Braxton is averaging 4.6 yards per rush and Cardi 3.0, tho Cardi's rushing numbers are once again skewed by Temple, where he was 10 rushes for 90 yards. Otherwise, he's at 40 rushes for 59 yards.
Cardi's numbers are overall better than Braxton but he's not going to win games for you unless you're playing the Pine Bluffs and Temples of the world. Cardi certainly hasn't played well enough to keep someone else on the bench that's for sure. I imagine if Braxton keeps like he is, Cardi will take over but I don't think it was irrational for the staff to give Braxton some consistent reps to see if he could be an improvement since QB was certainly not a strength otherwise.
Remember Cody Green was going to be drafted in the NFL, according to his camp. Never underestimate the irrationality of people.
To be fair, Braxton was 1-4 with 2 interceptions against that Pine Bluff squad
.To be honest, if we're going to go based on stats, we should be Rollin' with Roman!To be fair, Braxton was 1-4 with 2 interceptions against that Pine Bluff squad
Ya… he wanted to stay here because he didn’t know if he would be able to get another job… but auburn was even dumber then us and took him
I always got the sense that the players loved Monty and respected him. They played hard. The team never gave up. If Monty had an OC he would still be here and we would all love him.
Im not real sure about the meeting and its implications. I bet half the team is in the portal next year.
This is probably going to get a lot worse. The team gave up on Saturday. Period.
That wouldv'e never happened with Monty.
We are going to get beat badly by Charlotte on Homecoming and then the wheels are going to come off.
Im not real sure about the meeting and its implications. I bet half the team is in the portal next year.
This is probably going to get a lot worse. The team gave up on Saturday. Period.
That wouldv'e never happened with Monty.
We are going to get beat badly by Charlotte on Homecoming and then the wheels are going to come off.
Wow! Some on here are going to cause the recruits to go looking. Now is not the time for this stuff. May be 6 games in next year.
LOL!
A. The team absolutely quit in Montgomery on more than one occasion.
B. You whined just as loud as anyone to fire Montgomery.
You’re a special cat, friend. The AAC board deserves you and you deserve those fools. So I think you’re better off dragging TU through the mud there than you are here.
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You’re doing a lot more harm than good. If you’re going to post this bs, at least put it behind the paywall in the Alley. 🙄
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So we're saying we don't mind losing a lot like Monty did as long as the guys try hard? Are we in Pop Warner again? Stars for everyone! But what about the fights and penalties? Those are ok as long as the guys are playing hard, too? The guy fielded a team that was an embarrassment as well as being a bad coach.
FWIW, KW went 1-11 his first season at Indiana before delivering 2 of the 5 bowl seasons they've had in the last 30 years.
Half the posters on here are like "KW needs to drive off most of the players!" and half the posters are like "KW is too mean, he drives off players!". I guess that's life when you're a college coach who isn't winning.
Gonna be funny seeing these idiots reactions when we start winning next season big time. Will be hilarious
All things considered, even some of our most obnoxious posters are pretty tame compared to some of the larger fanbases in the SEC.
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