Impressive for a bunch of radicals with no F-15's...
Could have been this.Most reasonable people understood from the outset that the Biden Admin royally screwed up the Afghan exit. One of the problems when the guy in charged is cognitive limited. I assume changes have been made to account for this in times of crisis….at least I hope
I think we all agree it was time to get out. The way we withdrew was the problem. Not having enough troops to secure a safe and orderly evacuation was a horrific miscalculation as was relying on the Afghan forces to hold the Taliban back during the withdrawal. We were warned they were unreliable and chose to ignore said warnings. Leaving those people behind who assisted us over there was also a poor decision. We knew they would be tortured and killed once we left. We didn’t care. Will make it harder to secure assistance from the populous next go around.In
I can't stand listening to this BS. I feel for this guy. He has lost everything. He friends, his arms and his way of life.
Unfortunately, war is awful.
It was chaotic.
The country collapsed. The Trump admin negotiated the handover without the aghan government in Doha. That is outrageous.
3 years into Trump 50 American troops had died in aghanistan? Now, no more die.
Bad things happen in war. WTF did you think would happen when the ANA collapsed and what made you think it wasn't going to happen when the government was kept out.
He offers no alternatives. He doesn't speak Pashtun. He doesn't speak Pharsi. Were we supposed to stay and have it out with the Taliban and lose more troops?
At this point, what was the strategic interest in staying? He had none.
And we chose the wrong place to leave from. There was probably political pressure to leave some of the Afghani's because a certain wing of the Republican party would have had a problem with 'all these afghani refugees we took in'.I think we all agree it was time to get out. The way we withdrew was the problem. Not having enough troops to secure a safe and orderly evacuation was a horrific miscalculation as was relying on the Afghan forces to hold the Taliban back during the withdrawal. We were warned they were unreliable and chose to ignore said warnings. Leaving those people behind who assisted us over there was also a poor decision. We knew they would be tortured and killed once we left. We didn’t care. Will make it harder to secure assistance from the populous next go around.
Should the DOD authorized the sniper to take out the bomber who murdered 13 U.S. servicemen….yes. Hindsight is easy though. Not sure why that decision was made. Turned out to have been wrong.
It was really an odd decision. Here’s an article from foreignpolicy.com. Fairly good analysis.And we chose the wrong place to leave from.
Not going to argue there re the Pubs. However, many of those people left behind simply couldn’t get to the airport in time. The speed at which the Taliban retook territory was something we hadn’t properly planned and appeared to catch us off guard. If the Biden Admin left those people behind to be killed and tortured due to Pub pressure than all involved should be publicly called out. It wasn’t right.Yes I edited it after you(@lawpoke87 ) posted a like. You might go back and look at what I added.
There were many who were not supposed to go to the airport, they weren't given asylum. My afghani friend who was given asylum, had a father who was a general in the afghani army. He has been on the run ever since the pull out. He is in the hills of Afghanistan, and stays anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months in any one place, constantly running. He was one of many who were never offered asylum.Not going to argue there re the Pubs. However, many of those people left behind simply couldn’t get to the airport in time. The speed at which the Taliban retook territory was something we hadn’t properly planned and appeared to catch us off guard. If the Biden Admin left those people behind to be killed and tortured due to Pub pressure than all involved should be publicly called out. It wasn’t right.
Shameful. If we’re going to ask people there to assist us and they follow through on their commitment we have an obligation to take care of them once we decided to leave. This isn’t about politics. This is about doing what’s right. What’s moral. Hopefully we make the effort and get him and people like him out of that area to the U.S.There were many who were not supposed to go to the airport, they weren't given asylum. My afghani friend who was given asylum, had a father who was a general in the afghani army. He has been on the run ever since the pull out. He is in the hills of Afghanistan, and stays anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months in any one place, constantly running. He was one of many who were never offered asylum.
Me neither.I don’t agree it was time to get out. Even for people who don’t care about the humanitarian aspect, there were at least as many strategic reasons to maintain a presence there as there is anywhere else in the world, particularly considering who our top geopolitical enemy is now. I can agree to disagree with the paleocons though. It’s the people who suggest any opposition to immigration makes you a heartless racist and any opposition to abortion means you hate women, and at the same time argued in favor of abandoning millions of little girls to lives as sex slaves that are truly disgusting to me. The venn diagram of people taking those two positions is almost a perfect circle.
We would need to know more. Plenty of people over there who fight for money. And change sides quickly. Im not sure everyone in that line of work needs to be walking around the shopping malls of Dallas. Whether they helped us out of convenience or profit or lust to kill common enemies or not. Someone that prominent must have surely been vetted in advance and found to be a person of concern.There were many who were not supposed to go to the airport, they weren't given asylum. My afghani friend who was given asylum, had a father who was a general in the afghani army. He has been on the run ever since the pull out. He is in the hills of Afghanistan, and stays anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months in any one place, constantly running. He was one of many who were never offered asylum.
Seeing how it's a career military family, father a long time general, and 2 out of 3 male children are in the army as well, I kind of think it's a legit family. But you are missing the fact that my friend is here. So the friend who was a soldier is here, but not the father who was a general. Any more questions you want to pose.We would need to know more. Plenty of people over there who fight for money. And change sides quickly. Im not sure everyone in that line of work needs to be walking around the shopping malls of Dallas. Whether they helped us out of convenience or profit or lust to kill common enemies or not. Someone that prominent must have surely been vetted in advance and found to be a person of concern.
You act as if we gave asylum only to those who deserved it, and the rest we left. From the # of people we left over there, that ostensibly is not true. I realize there are security risks for bringing everyone, and we can't do that. That is not to say that those are the only ones we left over there. My friend knows of several who were left over there whose lives are at extreme risk, some of which are already dead now, and a number of which are on the run like his father.I get it. Better than you might imagine. That was an extremely complex conflict with multiple over lapping allegiances. Guys on our side, inside their military and out, often times weren't always on our side. And if you compromise yourself, the national security of the United States isnt particularly interested in the reasons why or what else you might have done to help us. Assuming he was vetted and wasn't extended a visa, and that's a big if, there are often reasons why, even unknown to their patriotic and loyal sons. Biden isnt to blame for everything. Often times people are to blame for their situation, regardless of their noble intentions. You can't automatically make the romantic leap that Hollywood wants to put forward that everyone who helped us over there deserves to be brought over here and that none of them are a security risk once they arrive. Many if not most deserve a chance to live their lives in peace in this country, even those who have no aspirations of ever self-identifying as an American. But not all. We've got good people doing good work in that area. If someone like an Afghani army general wasn't cleared to enter, I would not be asking what mistakes were made in not getting him in, I would asking what mistakes he made so that he could not be included.