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2025 U.S. News Ranking

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HuffyCane said:
Peer reputation is still 20% of the score.

Percentage of alumni who give, which TU was once in the Top 10, is no longer part of the score.

We take a bath on peer review and Pell Grant retention. Which is one reason you hear Wilson constantly saying we need to graduate everyone on the team. Athletes are a disproportionate number of our Pell Grant students and they all want to portal without graduating.

These rating are what the committee think a college should be, not an estimation of academic quality.

Otherwise, things like average faculty salary would not be weighed alongside average ACT and graduation rates.
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Agreed. Peer reputation is still weighted way too heavily IMO. Sure, we have certain programs that are known and well-regarded nationally, but there aren't enough who view TU as a peer because of the overall national perception amongst institutions and amongst potential students.

Pell grant is a valid measure but also hurts schools because of the athlete side of things and the fact that the NCAA has basically said they don't care if its member institutions are academic schools first...sure they say it but it's a 100% facade. These are pro teams now and graduation is secondary to the TV ratings the athletes produce. Maybe US News and World report needs to remove that metric.

As for TUs ACT avg of incoming students, % of NMS attending, etc. should be an indication of student quality and the 2 yr and 3 yr retention rates should also be a big factor as that would be an indicator that the students attending think they are getting a valuable education. And don't they also measure the % of students who are accepted to grad school or employed in their field of choice 6 months after undergrad graduation date? TU performs well in those metrics as well.
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2025 U.S. News Ranking

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HuffyCane said:
Peer reputation is still 20% of the score.

Percentage of alumni who give, which TU was once in the Top 10, is no longer part of the score.

We take a bath on peer review and Pell Grant retention. Which is one reason you hear Wilson constantly saying we need to graduate everyone on the team. Athletes are a disproportionate number of our Pell Grant students and they all want to portal without graduating.

These rating are what the committee think a college should be, not an estimation of academic quality.

Otherwise, things like average faculty salary would not be weighed alongside average ACT and graduation rates.
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So true! It is not a ranking of academic quality.
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2025 U.S. News Ranking

HuffyCane
Peer reputation is still 20% of the score.

Percentage of alumni who give, which TU was once in the Top 10, is no longer part of the score.

We take a bath on peer review and Pell Grant retention. Which is one reason you hear Wilson constantly saying we need to graduate everyone on the team. Athletes are a disproportionate number of our Pell Grant students and they all want to portal without graduating.

These rating are what the committee think a college should be, not an estimation of academic quality.

Otherwise, things like average faculty salary would not be weighed alongside average ACT and graduation rates.
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2025 U.S. News Ranking

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goldenhurricane2 said:
Progress for sure, but man it hurts seeing us that low. Carson has his sights set high (top 50 and R1). I’m hopeful we can achieve that by the end of this decade.
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Lawless wanted top 50 as well. There was one metric back then that there was literally nothing TU could do to really improve on as there was a metric measuring the school's reputation used as part of the ranking. I think it has been removed or at least reduced greatly in its weight in the overall rankings.
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Yanks in the UK & Europe

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If it's Jedi to Liverpool, he also has a better chance at Champions League with them. Fulham always remains mid-level in the EPL and like Bla says, United is a train wreck. Early on, maybe Man U. might make the Europa League, but that's it.

Today, for example, Man U. are in this year's Europa League and played something called "Twente" (Dutch maybe?) and could only manage a 1-1 tie.
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North Texas -6

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TU_BLA said:
We're going to get hammered. Our D is pretty damn porous, especially against the pass. So the DC needs to make a choice, blitz and bring pressure to get the ball out quick, OR, rush with 4 and drop into coverage to maybe keep them in front and force a bunch of FGs. If UNT has a TE they involve, we're in big trouble as it doesn't appear that we communicate well on the field in terms of who is picking up who. I mean, I saw an 8th grade game the other day where a LB pointed out the TE lined up at the end of the OL and then yelled, "I got him". Seems a pretty simple concept but somehow that simple little acknowledgement of individual assignments is lost on us (we've had a ton of busted deep coverages with DBs looking around puzzled).

Next, our offense, specifically the run and pass games are inconsistent and it all has to do with poor OL play. Seriously, if the OL could get any push up front whatsoever and our RBs could consistently gain 3-4 yds on each run play, it would open things up for Francis, or the jet sweeps. The play action would force the LBs to hold before dropping into coverage. We also have to have Francis look at the other WRs more consistently. It seems he is only looking at Benjamin unless he is covered and he desperately heaves it towards someone else.
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You pick us to lose every game.

You need to stick to reffing soccer and those super fun 0-0 ties
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North Texas -6

TU_BLA
We're going to get hammered. Our D is pretty damn porous, especially against the pass. So the DC needs to make a choice, blitz and bring pressure to get the ball out quick, OR, rush with 4 and drop into coverage to maybe keep them in front and force a bunch of FGs. If UNT has a TE they involve, we're in big trouble as it doesn't appear that we communicate well on the field in terms of who is picking up who. I mean, I saw an 8th grade game the other day where a LB pointed out the TE lined up at the end of the OL and then yelled, "I got him". Seems a pretty simple concept but somehow that simple little acknowledgement of individual assignments is lost on us (we've had a ton of busted deep coverages with DBs looking around puzzled).

Next, our offense, specifically the run and pass games are inconsistent and it all has to do with poor OL play. Seriously, if the OL could get any push up front whatsoever and our RBs could consistently gain 3-4 yds on each run play, it would open things up for Francis, or the jet sweeps. The play action would force the LBs to hold before dropping into coverage. We also have to have Francis look at the other WRs more consistently. It seems he is only looking at Benjamin unless he is covered and he desperately heaves it towards someone else.
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TU Men's Soccer Fall 2024

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TU_BLA said:
TU (and Tom) are officially in trouble. 4-0 loss to UMKC last night. It appears Ryan Pore has elevated himself from the apprentice to the master and took last night's opportunity to strike Tom down (I apologize if my Star Wars reference is lost on everyone...I promise it's funnier in my head).

4-0 is one of those losses that tells me the team has given up on the season already....not a good thing with the bulk of conference play still in front of us.
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Fair to say the force is not with the TU men
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TU Men's Soccer Fall 2024

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TU (and Tom) are officially in trouble. 4-0 loss to UMKC last night. It appears Ryan Pore has elevated himself from the apprentice to the master and took last night's opportunity to strike Tom down (I apologize if my Star Wars reference is lost on everyone...I promise it's funnier in my head).

4-0 is one of those losses that tells me the team has given up on the season already....not a good thing with the bulk of conference play still in front of us.
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