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2024 Election prediction/discussion

Agree. Looking at Tulsa County which has very few areas I would consider rural, Trump won by 15% compared to 34% statewide. I believe parts of the OKC area were even closer than that.

On a different note, how in 2024 can California only have 58% of the vote counted 3 days after the election? It takes Florida 3 hours to count 98%.
Differences in philosophy.

After 2000, Florida received considerable federal funding related to vote tabulation and improving the efficiency of voting. A two hour line to vote in Philly is a hassle. In Miami heat, with all its retirees, it literally kills people. Used to happen all the time. And still does sparingly.

So Florida has scanning technology that is the best in the country and legal infrastructure to support it. So lines are short.

People want to vote in person because it takes less than five minutes and there’s plenty of early voting locations.

California emphasizes a variety of methods to vote with the philosophy of the more options to vote, the more people will vote.

Because of infrastructure issues in CA like poor parking and extended commutes to and from work, CA voting by mail has increased rapidly the last thirty years and the laws and tech haven’t kept up.

For instance, unlike other states, Florida can process received mail in ballots as they arrive. They just can’t tabulate them. They can do all the things you need to do to verify that the vote should be counted, load it into the machine, and scan it. They just can’t tabulate. CA cannot do any of that. They start from scratch on election night and still count by hand in some smaller jurisdictions.

Florida law requires every mailed ballot arrive by the cob on Election Day regardless of when postmarked. CA requires it to be post marked by election day. Which means they must wait at least five days and sometimes longer if the post office tells them, to be certain every vote has arrived.

Mail in ballots hand delivered on Election Day, which is common, can’t be counted until the end of the day. And again, not every county has Florida’s scan technology so it can take days for CA officials to profile such a massive rush of mail in ballots, count them and certify the results.

I could go on.

Fire him TOMORROW!

Should I play the part of heckling moron at the next home game…ala the guy from happy gilmore?
So when I was a student at TU, me and a friend would pick a target at each home game and heckle mercilessly until we could get them to react. We got a Fresno State women's player to flip us off simply because we rained "airball" on her...but when the arena is mostly empty and we're screaming it at the top of our lungs, it tends to get heard. Billy Tubbs told us to "Shut the **** up" at their last WAC tourney which we hosted. Howard Schnellenberger told his security personnel to get us to shut up after we sang "Here comes Santa Claus" when he came back on for the 2nd half of the Thanksgiving game vs Louisville. We also got their kicker to flip us off because we kept calling him the Roly Poly Kicker. That was also the game Jeff Brohn got Jeff Brohm's by Jeremy Bunch.

Anyway, I could try to convince him to come down for the last home game and we can sit right behind the TU bench...pretty sure we could get him to walk off the field before halftime.

2024 Election prediction/discussion

I just don't know. Suspect there is also a growing rural versus urban divide in the state, though I've not looked at the numbers. I'd not be shocked if the cities proper of OKC and Tulsa were very competitive in the presidential election, based on how they vote in mayoral contests. But again - I am not studied in politics.

Agree. Looking at Tulsa County which has very few areas I would consider rural, Trump won by 15% compared to 34% statewide. I believe parts of the OKC area were even closer than that.

On a different note, how in 2024 can California only have 58% of the vote counted 3 days after the election? It takes Florida 3 hours to count 98%.
15.2% lead in Tulsa county for Trump, 1.7% lead in OKC. Much more liberal in OKC.

Bonus vote: 1.1% for Kennedy in both Tulsa & OKC :rolleyes:

2024 Election prediction/discussion

The only way your boss or the people at church would know your party, would be if you told them. Independents were a little bit up or down from 10% from the years 1980=2016. The republicans have been better at getting voters to the polls which accounts for us voting in republican Presidents.
One of my hard and fast rules in my company is political talk is prohibited. Our work force is probably 60-40 Pub if I were to guess
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2024 Election prediction/discussion

I doubt it. The republican party won't let democrats or independents vote in their primaries and will fight this hard. Whereas the democrats don't mind if the independents want to vote in their primaries. The republicans will fight this with a passion. Seeing as how Republicans are massively the majority in this state, it probably won't pass if it ever came up for a vote.(which it probably never will, seeing as how said republican politicians won't even entertain the thought of putting it to the people.)
Dems let independents vote in their primaries because Oklahoma Independents are basically Dems that want to remain anonymous..

2024 Election prediction/discussion

I just don't know. Suspect there is also a growing rural versus urban divide in the state, though I've not looked at the numbers. I'd not be shocked if the cities proper of OKC and Tulsa were very competitive in the presidential election, based on how they vote in mayoral contests. But again - I am not studied in politics.
Agree. Looking at Tulsa County which has very few areas I would consider rural, Trump won by 15% compared to 34% statewide. I believe parts of the OKC area were even closer than that.

On a different note, how in 2024 can California only have 58% of the vote counted 3 days after the election? It takes Florida 3 hours to count 98%.
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