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Warching UCF & Temple...

Weds update since this thread can't die.

UCF is 12th in the Bowl rankings. As I stated earlier....there's no way they are going to sniff the playoff despite not losing a game in almost two years. Again...the current system was established in part to ensure the G5 schools never get a seat at the playoff table. Why there isn't more outrage over this from the G5s is beyond me.

As far as TV viewers this past weekend. The top 2 Big12 games on Fox and ABC drew 7.6 million viewers. The entire AAC slate drew under 2M. When all games are factored the Big12 drew a over 4x the amount of viewers as the AAC. Which is about the average for the entire season. But yeah....TV coverage is about even. We need a better TV deal.
 
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Weds update since this thread can't die.

UCF is 12th in the Bowl rankings. As I stated earlier....there's no way they are going to sniff the playoff despite not losing a game in almost two years. Again...the current system was established in part to ensure the G5 schools never get a seat at the playoff table. Why there isn't more outrage over this from the G5s is beyond me.

As far as TV viewers this past weekend. The top 2 Big12 games on Fox and ABC drew 7.6 million viewers. The entire AAC slate drew under 2M. When all games are factored the Big12 drew a over 4x the amount of viewers as the AAC. Which is about the average for the entire season. But yeah....TV coverage is about even. We need a better TV deal.


It was like 3x ours and probably was the biggest weekend for the Big Xii and the SEC who had monster match ups, essentially semi-final games for both conferences

We regularly are 50-75% of the Big Xii's and PAC's total viewership and that has been the case every year, the extra fox games give them the push.

Week 4 totals

Big Xii
2.877 Texas/TCU Fox 4:30pm
1.241 Kansas St/West Virgina ESPN 3:30pm
0.841 Texas Tech/Ok State FS1 7pm
0.414 Kansas/Baylor FS1 3:30pm
4.376 Total

AAC
1.295 FAU/UCF ESPN 7pm
0.728 Tulsa/Temple ESPN 7:30pm
0.211 Ohio/Cincinatti ESPN U 12pm
2.244 Total




Week 7 totals

Big Xii
1.783 Baylor/Texas ESPN 3:30pm
1.323 W. Virginia/Iowa St FS1 7pm
1.233 Texas Tech/TCU ESPN 7:30pm
0.422 Ok St/Kansas St ESPNU 12pm
4.761 Total

AAC
1.670 UCF vs Memphis (split) ABC 3:30pm
1.170 Tulsa vs USF ESPN
2.840 Total



Week 9

Big Xii
3.547 Texas/Ok State ESPN 7pm
1.989 Kansas St/Oklahoma 3:30pm
0.885 Texas Tech/Iowa St 12pm
0.577 Baylor/West Virginia 7pm
0.325 TCU/Kansas 3pm
7.323 Total

AAC
2.447 Navy/Notre Dame CBS 7pm
1.205 Houston/USF (split) ABC 3:30pm
3.652 Total

That's just this year, but it's pretty much the same since 2014. This is with no hype for the conference from the media and only five years to build.

AAC exposure isn't bad, although cbs sports not being in the ratings hurts, they seem to as a company reall value our games.

ESPN promotion of the conference is crap. Cincy/UCF is supposedly in the running to host Game Day. Syracuse/Notre Dame is the other one. Their attitude towards the conference is why I am hoping for a NBC/CBS split top tier deal with NBC taking mostly football and CBS taking mostly basketball. ESPN will pick up a couple games a week in that scenario. One or two Saturday games and a week night one.

The media pay out is crap too.
 
Just wondering.

Several years ago the OU was left out of the "pla yoff" because the big12 did not have a conference championship game.

Then how can notre dame get into the playoff, when they dont have a championship game, hell they don't even have a conference. .
 
Just wondering.

Several years ago the OU was left out of the "pla yoff" because the big12 did not have a conference championship game.

Then how can notre dame get into the playoff, when they dont have a championship game, hell they don't even have a conference. .

They weren't left off because of no championship game, they got left out because the other teams had extra information from the 13th data point.

This year is unusual, if you haven't noticed every A5 conference but the SEC has a division likely to be won by a 3 or 4 loss team or worse. Several scenarios exist that have 3 loss teams playing three loss teams for conference championship games. This makes it easier for an independent with 12 games to sneak in.

Such scenarios are the path that the cfp talks about for UCF. Conference championship upsets give two or three losses to almost everyone.
 
We regularly are 50-75% of the Big Xii's and PAC's total viewership and that has been the case every year,

That simply isn’t true. Through ten weeks this year total viewership is as follows:

Big12. 73.48M
AAC. 27.60M

AAC currently has 38% of the viewership of the Big12 and that number will decrease this coming week.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/#2018wk7

I took have of the split regional coverage numbers in the calculation as ratings weren’t game specific.

Looking forward to a new TV deal and a new selection process for the playoff. UCF is 12th after ten weeks. There is zero chance of the committee moving them 8 spots in the next few weeks. They don’t play a team this season in the FBS committee’s top 25. They will continue to move teams ahead of them in order to avoid a G5 team in the playoff. The process is rigged.
 
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That simply isn’t true. Through ten weeks this year total viewership is as follows:

Big12. 73.48M
AAC. 27.60M

AAC currently has 38% of the viewership of the Big12 and that number will decrease this coming week.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/#2018wk7

I took have of the split regional coverage numbers in the calculation as ratings weren’t game specific.

Looking forward to a new TV deal and a new selection process for the playoff. UCF is 12th after ten weeks. There is zero chance of the committee moving them 8 spots in the next few weeks. They don’t play a team this season in the FBS committee’s top 25. They will continue to move teams ahead of them in order to avoid a G5 team in the playoff. The process is rigged.

Just stop. You're very selective about what you pick, you like to chose stats that reflect your view. Every time we did deeper you have to try to be more specific.

That gap won't be growing come the end of the season. The big xii is done with it's big match ups except WV vs OU. The AAC still has three big games in the Memphis vsHouston, UCF vs Cincy, and the war on I4.

The numbers will finish where they have every year. Here are the stats for last year although this is only a look at pure raw numbers and does not match up time and channel. We do even better in those and win although not consitantly or by large margins.



Here are all the conferences raw numbers:


Data for all games (avg per game); conference-controlled (apg); and conference games (apg).

SEC: 199,484,000 (3.2million); 166,916,000 (3.0 million); 138,767,000 (3.55million)
BIG10: 180,615,000 (2.86million); 156,679,000 (3.0million); 130,993,000 (3.27million)
ACC: 139,553,000 (2.4million); 117,703,000 (2.4million); 68,952,000 (2.0 million)
PAC12: 95,254,000 (1.76million); 85,907,000 (1.79million); 61,091,000 (1.65million)
BIG12: 93,660,000(1.7million); 72,583,000 (1.58million); 59,455,000(1.6million)
AAC: 40,675,000(.992million); 21,866,000(.729million); 17,044,000 (.631million)



MWC: 16,031,000(.616million); 7,724,000(.406million); 5,357,000 (.357million)
MAC: 10,467,000(.455million); 3,745,000 (.234million); 3,550,000 (.237million)
SBC: 5,209,000 (.401million); 2,280,000 (.253million); 1,314,000 (.164million)
CUSA:4,519,000 (.251 million); 2,657,000 (.177million); 717,000 (.071 million)



AAC's percentage of SEC: 22.3% (33.25%); 15.4% (27.7%); 12.2% (17.7%)
AAC's percentage of BIG10: 24.65% (37.1%); 16.4% (27.7%); 13% (19.3%)
AAC's percentage of ACC: 31.9% (44.2%); 21.8% (34.5%); 24.8% (31.6%)
AAC's percentage of PAC12: 46.7% (60%); 29.9% (46.3%); 27.8% (38.2%)
AAC's percentages of BIG12: 47.5% (62.3%); 35.4% (52.5%); 28.7% (39.4%)



MWC's percentage of AAC: 36% (58.1%); 30.0% (48.9%); 31.4% (56.6%)
MAC's percentage of AAC: 23.5% (42.9%); 14.6% (28.2%); 20.8% (37.5%)
SBC's percentage of AAC: 11.7% (37.8%); 8.9% (30.5%); 7.7% (26.0%)
CUSA's percentage of AAC: 10.1% (23.7%) 10.3% (21.3%); 4.2% (11.4%)
 
You’re numbers are 35.4% of total AAC viewers compared to Big12 viewers from each conferences TV contract and 28.7% in conference games.

Can you provide that link please?
 
You have to do the math o_O

I did.....Total viewers based on that link through last weekend were:

Big12. 73.48M
AAC. 27.60M

If the AAC had a regional ABC game then I attributed half of those total viewers to the AAC.

AAC currently has 38% of the viewership of the Big12 based on those numbers.


Which is inline with your conference TV numbers but no one close to your total aggregate figure.
 
I did.....Total viewers based on that link through last weekend were:

Big12. 73.48M
AAC. 27.60M

If the AAC had a regional ABC game then I attributed half of those total viewers to the AAC.

AAC currently has 38% of the viewership of the Big12 based on those numbers.


Which is inline with your conference TV numbers but no one close to your total aggregate figure.

This are from last season 2017 not 2018.

As stated the big xii has one big matchup for tv left, the AAC has three not counting championship games.

The ratings are broke into three catagories.

All games played on TV

Games played on TV in which the conference was the home team and controlled by them for inventory.

Games strictly played between conference teams.

The numbers have been roughly the same since 2014 as far as ratios to each other. They will finish the same again this year.
 
I’ve said all along that one of the reasons the BCS “committee” was formed was to ensure an all P5 final four. Keeping the selections in the hands of the computers or even the AP voters was simply too unpredictable for the powers that be.

Evers I never once said the G5’s get no coverage. What is said was their head to head records against the P5s aren’t covered by ESPN. Please don’t mistate my posts. Anyone who tries to give the AAC TV ratings credit for an NBC ND - Navy game is not only delusional and but very poor at trying to defend a position. ND pulls that prime time number regardless of opponent and Navy pulls it based solely on service members.

As far as TV coverage the biggest college show going is game day. I would venture their coverage is 20-1 in favor of the P5 games when talking about matchups. Tell you what....the ratings for this past weeks games come out tomorrow. I’ll add up total viewers for the P5 games as well as the G5 games and we can see exactly how much coverage and exposure of actual games both are currently receiving. I’ll post those results when their released.


College Gameday will be held in Orlando for the top 25 match up between Cincy and UCF.
 
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I'm waiting to see if the championship poll jumps Syracuse into Kentucky's spot over UCF. Would be darkly amusing and distressing, seeing as how Syracuse lost to Pittsburg.
 
I'm waiting to see if the championship poll jumps Syracuse into Kentucky's spot over UCF. Would be darkly amusing and distressing, seeing as how Syracuse lost to Pittsburg.

More likely I think is a team in not playing in a championship game jumping them (ala Ohio St.) When that conferences hope loses to a weaker division winner. So say Pitt beats Clemson giving them their second loss, in goes Syracuse. Arizona beats Washington in goes Washington St. Michigan goes down to Northwestern and OSU jumps them. Iowa St plays OU for the big xii and West Virginia sneaks in. Something like that.
 
More likely I think is a team in not playing in a championship game jumping them (ala Ohio St.) When that conferences hope loses to a weaker division winner. So say Pitt beats Clemson giving them their second loss, in goes Syracuse. Arizona beats Washington in goes Washington St. Michigan goes down to Northwestern and OSU jumps them. Iowa St plays OU for the big xii and West Virginia sneaks in. Something like that.
I was talking about this week.
 
I was talking about this week.

I know, I'm just saying that I think an end season incident like that is more likely. Less time for out rage and they won't have to answer questions about it because the season will be over for the committee.
 
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