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Fun fact? Our top 2 3pt shooters on the season our forwards... Etou and Igbanu
 
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Worst thing about this losing streak? Having to listen to bigzit and Atson whine about their respective talking points adnausem.

Zit found God and quit hating. Aston just reposts things from the Mizzou board from five years ago.
 
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You think Wheeler will ever figure out that he can't shoot over a 7'6" guy in the lane??
 
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Been busy.

I turned it on right before halftime and it was OK.
Turned it back on with 12 left and it's been ugly and uglier.
Ugh.
 
The sad thing is outside Etou and Edogi all the players were recruited by Haith. When I look at this team aside from Etou how many of these players would have been recruited by Nolan, Tubby, or Bill. There in lies our problem... Buzzard, JP, Woj, and now Haith have all recruited down and not up from TU's best coaches. Heck most of these players would not have been recruited by Joe Swank or Kenny Hays.
 
How can our worst shooter continue to take at least 10 shots a game???
I remember when Uzoh would only take 6-7 a game and drive us all crazy. This is much worse.
We just don't have any true scorers. Guys get hot every now and then for a short period but no one who we can count on for 15+ a game.
The good news is that the year is almost over. I think it's time to play some of the bench players and see if we want to keep them next year.

Completely agree. People tried to camouflage that weakness saying we have anyone who can go off on any given night. That can be a good thing, but you have to have at least 1-2 players who are go to guys...who score 14+ every night. Last few years, Woodard and Shaq, before that, Clarkson and Hurtt, then of course Uzoh.

I thought Taplin/Etou were developing into that. But I don't know anymore. Igbanu may develop into that guy.

I think Joiner will definitely be that guy. I think we have a lot of good pieces, but not a complete team. I'll never give up hope on a year until the conference tourney is over, but Jeffries replaces Birt, and Joiner takes over. Taplin will have better options next year, which should help his game too. He's got to develop a better in game attitude.
 
At least the wine takes the edge off.

This is bad basketball at its finest.

My wine tonight is bad, so I resorted to chugging. One bottle later, don't even care we played so poorly.

I'm just here waiting for WATU to realize this is a Tulsa sports message board and not a political forum.
 
I'll never give up hope on a year until the conference tourney is over, but Jeffries replaces Birt, and Joiner takes over

I feel like a broken record here but Curran Scott will be a huge shooting improvement over Birt. He shot +40% from 3 as a freshman last year and was a scorer.
 
The sad thing is outside Etou and Edogi all the players were recruited by Haith. When I look at this team aside from Etou how many of these players would have been recruited by Nolan, Tubby, or Bill. There in lies our problem... Buzzard, JP, Woj, and now Haith have all recruited down and not up from TU's best coaches. Heck most of these players would not have been recruited by Joe Swank or Kenny Hays.
Again I have to disagree. I think Igbanu and Magnay will be big time players. I also still have high hopes for Korita. Also Taplin is still a sophomore with his best games ahead of him.
 
The sad thing is outside Etou and Edogi all the players were recruited by Haith. When I look at this team aside from Etou how many of these players would have been recruited by Nolan, Tubby, or Bill. There in lies our problem... Buzzard, JP, Woj, and now Haith have all recruited down and not up from TU's best coaches. Heck most of these players would not have been recruited by Joe Swank or Kenny Hays.
Again I have to disagree. I think Igbanu and Magnay will be big time players. I also still have high hopes for Korita. Also Taplin is still a sophomore with his best games ahead of him.
Nevada I lean more in your direction. I see pieces but the have not developed the way one would hope. Thus the coaching is worrying.

I really felt we were setting up for something special next year but now I worry the coaching staff may not be able to get the guys working together as a team.
 
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Igbanu is the truest STUD signing since Clarkson.

With Taplin, Igbanu, Etou and Magnay, you only need a couple of solid guards to get to 20 wins and 12 wins the AAC.

I am starting to question if Haith has the X's and O's.... we'll see.
 
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My wine tonight is bad, so I resorted to chugging. One bottle later, don't even care we played so poorly.

I'm just here waiting for WATU to realize this is a Tulsa sports message board and not a political forum.

Luckily he doesn't stalk me over here...
 
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We got some fools gold the first half of the year. This was always destined to be a .500 year. Still stinks but...
 
I hope you guys are right. However, currently I am not seeing the development I was hoping to see. Maybe that might be because I think Haith is struggling as much or more than the players.
 
We got some fools gold the first half of the year. This was always destined to be a .500 year. Still stinks but...

Give me a hug!

I think the guard play is so weak (after Taplin) that Haith did a brilliant job the first part of conference play. But then everyone figured out we really can't shoot and exploited it. This team reminds me of the old Wichita State coach saying "everyone knows Tulsa can't throw a beachball in the ocean."
 
I hope you guys are right. However, currently I am not seeing the development I was hoping to see. Maybe that might be because I think Haith is struggling as much or more than the players.
Haith is struggling because of the inconsistency of the players. The last 2-3 games have all been experiments in trying to find combos and players that are working. I don't know what has happened to Birt. At this point I think it is 95% mental and he is seriously doubting himself. A decent to good shooter doesn't change form from shot to shot hoping to get close. Birt's misses are all over the place and his last 3 last night were all air balls. At least I feel Korita's shots are all on line, they're just a smidge short or a smidge long. You can't fix a shooter who can't release it consistently because you have no idea where to start the corrections.

On the poster who thought that Haith hasn't upgraded talent...I'll disagree. Sure there are a couple of misses in there but we haven't had any 4's the likes of Etou and Igbanu since Kevin Johnson. We haven't had a C like Magnay since Kurtz. Taplin is a very good player. Wheeler is serviceable. I am liking Henderson's game more and more. I still think Korita can be a good role player like Jonny Gendron was. If Curran Scott is the 3pt threat everyone says he is, that will get a lot of teams out of zone defenses.

My biggest issue with Haith is switching to zone defense against teams like Houston who have 3-4 guys who can light up from outside and have no interior offense whatsoever with their current personnel. At worst last night against UCF we should have played a box and 1 with someone on Williams wherever he went. He goes to take a piss, you go with him. I would take my chances with Igbany, Edogi, and Magnay pushing Fall outside of 3 ft and letting him take those shots all game long. He's getting better but he's a long way from Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and having those baby hooks be automatic. We keep trying to take away things that are not strengths for the other team.
 
I don't think you can blame a coach's struggles on players when most of the roster is his players. That's where the buck stops. Those inconsistent players literally wouldn't exist without the staff's recruiting and coaching.

We aren't talking about a team that's doing everything right but shots just aren't falling.
 
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Sorry I missed the party. I watched the last ten minutes of the first half and couldn't deal with it any longer
 
I feel like a broken record here but Curran Scott will be a huge shooting improvement over Birt. He shot +40% from 3 as a freshman last year and was a scorer.

Taplin, Wheeler, and Henderson were all said to be huge improvements over last years team sans Birt.
It seems to like it's coaching, S&C, or both.
 
Yep the guys haven't panned out, we are a slightly better 3pt shooting team, much better FT shooting team, and worse at everything else significantly.

Code:
Rk            Player  G   MP  3P 3PA  3P%
1     Martins Igbanu 25 13.4 0.1 0.2 .600
2        Corey Haith 14  2.9 0.2 0.5 .429
3        Junior Etou 25 29.1 1.2 2.9 .397
4    Sterling Taplin 25 28.1 0.8 2.1 .385
5       Geno Artison 12  6.1 0.7 1.8 .381
6      Joseph Battle  9  4.4 0.1 0.3 .333
7    Corey Henderson 25 22.1 1.4 4.4 .321
8       Travis Atson 20  6.4 0.3 1.0 .316
9     Jaleel Wheeler 23 28.6 0.6 2.0 .304
10          Pat Birt 25 30.2 1.6 5.2 .298
11     Lawson Korita 25 13.8 0.6 2.4 .267
12       Will Magnay 25 15.7 0.0 0.0 .000
13          TK Edogi 25 11.0 0.0      0.0
14        Alex Foree  1  1.0 0.0      0.0

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Generated 2/15/2017.

Code:
Rk                 Player  G   MP  3P 3PA  3P%
1           James Woodard 31 34.1 2.5 6.9 .358
2      Shaquille Harrison 32 32.3 0.3 1.3 .195
3                Pat Birt 32 26.5 2.4 6.7 .366
4            Rashad Smith 30 21.1 0.2 0.6 .294
5          Marquel Curtis 31 24.6 0.5 1.7 .288
6       Brandon Swannegan 32 20.0 0.0      0.0
7           DAndre Wright 32 17.7 0.0 0.3 .000
8              Rashad Ray 32 17.6 0.8 2.4 .308
9         Sterling Taplin 29  9.8 0.4 1.5 .273
10              Nick Wood  5  1.6 0.0 0.2 .000
11            Kajon Brown  6  2.7 0.0 0.2 .000
12   Emmanuel Ezechinonso  6  6.5 0.0      0.0

Provided by CBB at Sports Reference: View Original Table
Generated 2/15/2017.
 
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