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The first 100 days

Where were you when I was doing it under Bush?

If you were so worried about it then.... why do you suddenly stop now? Just because it aligns with your ideals of small government you don't care anymore?
Not sure I was posting on the crossfire board back then. I certainly don’t recall you bringing up legislating through EOs if I was. My position on the subject doesn’t change based on the party doing it. Bad precedent is bad precedent.
 
Not sure I was posting on the crossfire board back then. I certainly don’t recall you bringing up legislating through EOs if I was. My position on the subject doesn’t change based on the party doing it. Bad precedent is bad precedent.
Neither of us were.. this is case of the royal we. My point is that you're not the only person who has pointed out the dangers of executive overreach and had it fall on deaf ears going back several administrations.
 
Neither of us were.. this is case of the royal we. My point is that you're not the only person who has pointed out the dangers of executive overreach and had it fall on deaf ears going back several administrations.
I think we can both agree the office of the President has become more powerful over the past 25 plus years. We can also probably agree this isn’t a good trend
 
we need more than career place holders.
You mean guys that sit in chairs with their arms folded, twiddling their thumbs while the real ‘adults’ do the important business?

Guys that spend more time on the golf course than they in the office?
 
A new executive order: "Only the president or the attorney general can speak for the United States when stating an opinion as to what the Law is"....



....something....something....something....foreign AND DOMESTIC.....
 
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Ridiculous savings claims continue.

Earlier this week, it was discovered that DOGE somehow added a couple of zeroes when claiming to have cut one ICE contract worth $8 billion. In actuality, the contract was worth only $8 million. Even as DOGE’s accounting discrepancies are uncovered, the total savings touted by DOGE on its website remains at $55 billion—and that number becomes more dubious with every passing day.
 
Ridiculous savings claims continue.

Earlier this week, it was discovered that DOGE somehow added a couple of zeroes when claiming to have cut one ICE contract worth $8 billion. In actuality, the contract was worth only $8 million. Even as DOGE’s accounting discrepancies are uncovered, the total savings touted by DOGE on its website remains at $55 billion—and that number becomes more dubious with every passing day.
Knowing your disdain for deficit spending, I assume you’re thrilled about every penny saved and thus not borrowed
 
Knowing your disdain for deficit spending, I assume you’re thrilled about every penny saved and thus not borrowed
Who the fk cares about 55 billion, and it probably being half fake. 55 billion is not pennies on the dollar, it ia .0275%. That is not even a third of a percent. They are going to have to show a whole lot more than that to amount to anything. In reality it is probably a lot closer to .015 than it is to .0275. And what damage have they done to achieve this monumental savings. You slough off the damage, but they saved a damned farthing for the trouble.
 
Knowing your disdain for deficit spending, I assume you’re thrilled about every penny saved and thus not borrowed
What's the cost benefit of the savings? If you cut 10 dollars, but that 10 dollars was going towards programs making you 100 dollars... then it was a bad idea unless you are going to redirect it to another project that can make you more than 100 dollars.

If you run a restaurant and you decide to cut the budget for the food you prepare to the point that no one eats at your restaurant anymore (because your food sucks) then you made the wrong decision. If you cut actual inefficiencies that's fine, but you have to make sure they don't do more to detriment your bottom line than what you saved.
 
What's the cost benefit of the savings? If you cut 10 dollars, but that 10 dollars was going towards programs making you 100 dollars... then it was a bad idea unless you are going to redirect it to another project that can make you more than 100 dollars.

If you run a restaurant and you decide to cut the budget for the food you prepare to the point that no one eats at your restaurant anymore (because your food sucks) then you made the wrong decision. If you cut actual inefficiencies that's fine, but you have to make sure they don't do more to detriment your bottom line than what you saved.
Government spending typically has a poor ROI. One reason why we are $37T in debt. Far too early to answer your question. Everyone on this board would acknowledge our current rate of deficit spending is not sustainable. It’s funny…we’ve had years to address the issue. Now those who ignored the fiscal calamity ahead are complaining about how reductions in spending is being done. Hard for me to take those who refused to act seriously for criticizing spending reductions when they are finally implemented. Bottom line is without action on our deficits, we will soon reach a point where we won’t be able to fully fund line items such as our social safety nets and defense.
 
Who the fk cares about 55 billion, and it probably being half fake. 55 billion is not pennies on the dollar, it ia .0275%. That is not even a third of a percent. They are going to have to show a whole lot more than that to amount to anything. In reality it is probably a lot closer to .015 than it is to .0275. And what damage have they done to achieve this monumental savings. You slough off the damage, but they saved a damned farthing for the trouble.
It’s been 30 days.
 
It’s been 30 days.
They haven't really made intimations of attacking the real stuff. They are just attacking around the margins, and destroying our government. I have no confidence that they will attack things other than that they want for philosophical reasons. immigration, foreign aid, DEI, etc don't make a difference. They just apply to their racist belief system not the budget. The times that they briefly look at the things that will make a difference, they show that they are running a clown show that has no comprehensions of what to do with things that matter to the budget. And the lies that come out of them are comical.(8m becomes 8b.)
 
They haven't really made intimations of attacking the real stuff. They are just attacking around the margins, and destroying our government. I have no confidence that they will attack things other than that they want for philosophical reasons. immigration, foreign aid, DEI, etc don't make a difference. They just apply to their racist belief system not the budget. The times that they briefly look at the things that will make a difference, they show that they are running a clown show that has no comprehensions of what to do with things that matter to the budget. And the lies that come out of them are comical.(8m becomes 8b.)
Would you like to wager as to whether they will look at and cut the big budget items? I’m not saying any of us will agree with those spending cuts but they will be attempted. The larger programs will take longer as they are far more complex than giving millions to our buddy hotel owner in NYC to house illegals
 
Would you like to wager as to whether they will look at and cut the big budget items? I’m not saying any of us will agree with those spending cuts but they will be attempted. The larger programs will take longer as they are far more complex than giving millions to our buddy hotel owner in NYC to house illegals
They have not shown me anything to have confidence in that.
 
I trust Musk even less than Trump because he is equally malevolent, bullying, and power hungry but much smarter. Vomit.
 
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I trust Musk even less than Trump because he is equally malevolent, bullying, and power hungry but much smarter. Vomit.
He convinced Trump to allow a few of his fellow white South African buddys to come to the US with carte balance as far as a path to citizensship. That was a nice little arrangement.
 
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