Missouri S&T Exhibition

[TulsaFan01]

Officially done with Konkol. He can't coach and has made continuously terrible decisions within the program in terms of personnel and scheduling. He makes Haith look competent.

It’s an exhibition game you dumbass.

This whole board has been done with your idiotic comments for years but yet…

here you still post. I guess posting about a miserable performance against a practice team makes you feel good about yourself.

Please don’t post this season when Tulsa actually does good. Idiot

 

[astonmartin708]

It’s an exhibition game you dumbass.

This whole board has been done with your idiotic comments for years but yet…

here you still post. I guess posting about a miserable performance against a practice team makes you feel good about yourself.

Please don’t post this season when Tulsa actually does good. Idiot

Better hope we get those forwards back, or we'll be under .500 again this season.
Being this bad in an exhibition does not bode well.

 

[t-townpod]

Better hope we get those forwards back, or we'll be under .500 again this season.
Being this bad in an exhibition does not bode well.

not impressed

 

[dougheffking]

Better hope we get those forwards back, or we'll be under .500 again this season.
Being this bad in an exhibition does not bode well.

You’re an idiot

 

[t-townpod]

You’re an idiot

Exactly what did you see that bodes well for a greater than 500 season?

 

[TulsaFan01]

Better hope we get those forwards back, or we'll be under .500 again this season.
Being this bad in an exhibition does not bode well.

Better hope you don’t post whenever Tulsa starts winning.

Being this bad on the forums does not bode well…

🖕

 

[Weatherdemon]

Better hope we get those forwards back, or we'll be under .500 again this season.
Being this bad in an exhibition does not bode well.

LOL you’re concerned about the bench vs a .600 D2 team.
You’re so blind in your contempt that you can’t even focus on the fact a group of D1 guys had to go to OT at home to beat said exhibition team.

 

[dougheffking]

Exactly what did you see that bodes well for a greater than 500 season?

Preseason in any sport means very little. We just smoked that other team by 26 in a scrimmage. It literally means nothing. Didn’t Syracuse lose a game like this years ago and then make the final 4 or something? It’s perspective

 

[Weatherdemon]

Preseason in any sport means very little. We just smoked that other team by 26 in a scrimmage. It literally means nothing. Didn’t Syracuse lose a game like this years ago and then make the final 4 or something? It’s perspective

Very true.
It’s nice to have the “feels” going into game 1.
This exh just feeds on the general malaise and negativity the HC OT win got us out of last weekend.

 

[astonmartin708]

LOL you’re concerned about the bench vs a .600 D2 team.
You’re so blind in your contempt that you can’t even focus on the fact a group of D1 guys had to go to OT at home to beat said exhibition team.

.600? They were .555 and were under .500 in their own conference.

 

[t-townpod]

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Preseason in any sport means very little. We just smoked that other team by 26 in a scrimmage. It literally means nothing. Didn’t Syracuse lose a game like this years ago and then make the final 4 or something? It’s perspective

got it.
Are you sure we beat Sd by 26?
The problem is how bad we look on defense and maybe the worst OOB plays I’ve seen in a long time. I just don’t like the offense. Same as last year. We run a bunch of the top of the circle screens seldom moving toward the basket. Stuck with a true 4 that can’t rebound and unless Barnes and Willis turns it on we ghave mo good outside shooters except a streaky Archie.

 

[TULSARISING]

I am just so disappointed with TU athletics right now … that’s all I can say

 

[astonmartin708]

Preseason in any sport means very little. We just smoked that other team by 26 in a scrimmage. It literally means nothing. Didn’t Syracuse lose a game like this years ago and then make the final 4 or something? It’s perspective

Closed door scrimmages mean far less than preseason open games. Those are often where coaches are working on specific game scenarios. Remember when we "beat" LSU last year? That meant less than nothing.

The NCAA will hold a D2 exhibition loss against you even if they say it's not part of your "official record" (we learned that with Haith).

Tonight wasn't an NFL or NBA preseason where the starters don't even play. This was 90% of our real team getting taken to the brink by a bunch of kids who probably couldn't dream of getting an NIL check.

 

[dougheffking]

The melting on this board is absolutely pathetic

 

[dougheffking]

Closed door scrimmages mean far less than preseason open games. Those are often where coaches are working on specific game scenarios. Remember when we "beat" LSU last year? That meant less than nothing.

The NCAA will hold a D2 exhibition loss against you even if they say it's not part of your "official record" (we learned that with Haith).

Tonight wasn't an NFL or NBA preseason where the starters don't even play. This was 90% of our real team getting their lunch money taken by a bunch of kids who probably couldn't dream of getting an NIL check.

The game with Haith was an actual regular season game…this was not.

 

[TULSARISING]

The melting on this board is absolutely pathetic

Unfortunately, so was the performance by Tulsa

 

[astonmartin708]

The game with Haith was an actual regular season game…this was not.

It was an exhibition, just not in the preseason. Didn't "count" for our win loss selection criteria according to the NCAA, but they did use it to kick us to the NIT.

I always heard the excuse that Haith was dealing with unfortunate family issues that night against SEOSU. What's Konkol's excuse tonight? Did he have a bad steak for dinner?

 

[TU 1978]

Meanwhile, the women’s first game is November 6th.

 

[dougheffking]

It was an exhibition, just not in the preseason. Didn't "count" for our win loss selection criteria according to the NCAA, but they did use it to kick us to the NIT.

It counted in our win loss record…tonight doesn’t. The two games are not the same

 

[astonmartin708]

It counted in our win loss record…tonight doesn’t. The two games are not the same

What an idiot. Exhibition games are exhibition games. Mediocre D2 teams are mediocre D2 teams.

We've lost to lower tiered teams twice in something like 70+ exhibition games. Konkol almost did it again tonight and got saved by Archie. This would have been like the Globetrotters losing to the Washington Generals. It doesn't matter if it's a game played in a snowstorm on an aircraft carrier. That just shouldn't happen, and any "fan" who says they are okay with it isn't a real fan.

 

[t-townpod]

Anyone have a box score??

 

[astonmartin708]

Anyone have a box score??

Tulsastats.com was up during the game but is offline at the moment for some reason. Odom was lead scorer I believe. The shooting by both teams was bad. We weren't shooting free throws very well until late.

Too many turnovers by our upperclassmen and we tied them in rebounds which is why I've been saying we should be wary of the frontcourt skill / depth early in the season when we apparently won't have Amadi / Garcia.

 

[TULSARISING]

Tulsastats.com was up during the game but is offline at the moment for some reason. Odom was lead scorer I believe. The shooting by both teams was bad. We weren't shooting free throws very well until late.

Too many turnovers by our upperclassmen and we tied them in rebounds.

You know , the more TU plays like they have been playing in both sports , the more I think you have been right a lot more then people here think you have been 😂 geez we suck so hard at athletics right now

 

[astonmartin708]

You know , the more TU plays like they have been playing in both sports , the more I think you have been right a lot more then people here think you have been 😂 geez we suck so hard at athletics right now

I admit that I fall into a funk quicker than many others on this board, and it's unfortunate that it went wonky this early in basketball. I really hope that Konkol can turn it around.

A ray of sunlight might be getting Garcia back. He could really change the dynamics of the team and help spacing / defense. The sooner that happens the better.

 

[TULSARISING]

I admit that I fall into a funk quicker than many others on this board, and it's unfortunate that it went wonky this early in basketball. I really hope that Konkol can turn it around.

A ray of sunlight might be getting Garcia back. He could really change the dynamics of the team and help spacing / defense. The sooner that happens the better.

I melt too, but crap , Tulsa has sucked for so long , that I almost expect to be disappointed , Brad Carson said he expects excellence, still waiting to see it , all I hear from TU is talk, but have seen nothing positive

 

[mcane]

75-70 OT
TU wins
S & T scrappy
A good guard and hot from 3 in spurts.

 

[astonmartin708]

Anyone who was at the game have any insight into Archie's defense tonight?

I know he fouled out early in the OT and had 4 fouls for a good bit of the second half which limited his playtime a bit. I hadn't felt like he was a defensive liability last year. Hoping that's not the case this year.

 

[TU Sepp]

Take aways from the game...

-- Garcia did not suit-up, so the defense covered Reed and Smikle with 1 defender and their 2 bigs were both better.
--There was no going into the center and a kick out for easy baskets
--Physically Reed looks better, but athletically not the improvement one should see after a first season
--Smikle often out of rebounding position and has weak hands
-- Barnes was so-so, I expected better
-- Willis was rusty after a year lay-off due to injury
--Archie had some great moments, but made to many mistakes with the ball
-- Carrington played well on both ends of the court
-- McWright will see time off the bench, unless he shows more than he showed tonight
.. Odem seemed to be the brightest spot on the court tonight and should become more consistent with playing time.

TU played to lose that game and should have lost to the Miners.
We got lucky with the Archie shot at the buzzer and then again in overtime.

 

[goldenhurricane2]

Hopefully we don’t shoot 15% from 3 again this season…

 

[thefloorguy89]

Went into this game holding my breath. Hadn’t heard a ton about this team other than they had “good chemistry”. I told my brother I was excited for the upcoming basketball season as we should have better shooting after listening to konkol on the hurricast. My brother told me he was told “don’t expect much” from TU bball this year. He knows someone very closely connected to the team. That was the first non sunshine pumping quote I had heard so didn’t pay much attention to it much. After this game I’m still holding my breath. Still only an exhibition game, but definitely not a team that should take you to OT. Garcia will help when back but it’s not like he was a defensive wrecker on that end last year.

 

[I.I.]

Anyone who was at the game have any insight into Archie's defense tonight?

I know he fouled out early in the OT and had 4 fouls for a good bit of the second half which limited his playtime a bit. I hadn't felt like he was a defensive liability last year. Hoping that's not the case this year.

Odom and Nash are better defenders. I like seeing Odom and Archie on the court together some.

 

[mcane]

Hoping for improvement
Two easy Ws before ORU here
That will be the first must W if there is a chance for a winning season
The long time fans dating back to the fairgrounds and the assembly center that o knew tonight are worried

 

[drboobay]

We found a way to win ugly. I will take that as a measure of encouragement.

 

[Bill Lowery]

Here’s the box score from the game. By the way, Missouri State beat SW Baptist 72-67 after leading by 2 at the half. Missouri S&T is predicted to finish 10th in their conference and SW Baptist 15th. Drenin Dinkins, a 6-0 junior,” for SW Baptist, led all scorers with 22 pts. I mention this because I coached his father Dusty Dunkin, when I was an assistant at SW Baptist. I was proud of Dusty and likewise, his son.

70
75

0-0,0-0 GLVC
0-0,0-0 AAC

Team	1	2	OT 1	F
MS&T	24	41	5	70
Winner Tulsa	36	29	10	75

DATE10/29/24TIME7:00 PMATTENDANCE2715SITEDonald W. Reynolds Center, Tulsa, OKREFEREESChris Chumley, Owen Shortt, K.B. Burdett Jr.VIEWMatch History vs Tulsa

Missouri S&T 70​

Missouri S&T 70

Player	FG	3PT	FT	REB	A	PTS
34 Young, Andrew	7-16	0-6	3-4	15	2	17
02 Benassi, Alex	5-13	2-7	1-2	8	5	13
05 Sroka, Ryan	4-14	3-9	1-3	9	1	12
14 Williams, Lovell	4-17	0-7	1-2	5	5	9
10 Stovall, Cameron	3-9	1-3	0-1	6	1	7
35 Brown, Zac	2-4	0-0	0-0	3	1	4
12 Burns, Aidan	1-2	1-2	1-2	0	0	4
23 Rickman, Adam	1-2	0-0	0-0	1	1	2
03 Foley, Dwayne	1-2	0-1	0-0	0	0	2
TM TEAM	0-0	0-0	0-0	4	0	0
Totals	28-79	7-35	7-14	51	16	70

Team Summary	FG	3PT	FT
First Half	10-36	3-16	1-2
27.78%	18.75%	50.00%
Second Half	16-34	4-14	5-10
47.06%	28.57%	50.00%
OT 1	2-9	0-5	1-2
22.22%	0.00%	50.00%
Total	28-79	7-35	7-14
	35.4%	20.0%	50.0%

Technical Fouls: none	Second Chance Points: 18	Scores Tied: 10 time(s)
Points in the Paint: 38	Fast Break Points: 10	Lead Changed: 6 time(s)
Points off Turnovers: 16	Bench Points: 12

Tulsa 75​

Tulsa 75

Player	FG	3PT	FT	REB	A	PTS
08 Archie,Tyshawn	4-10	4-6	0-0	4	3	12
11 Barnes,Isaiah	4-11	0-6	2-4	9	0	10
00 Willis,Keaston	2-7	0-3	6-6	10	1	10
01 Reed,Matthew	3-9	1-4	1-2	4	2	8
04Carrington,Braeden	2-9	1-6	2-2	7	0	7
02 Odom,Dwon	8-14	1-3	1-1	4	1	18
05McWright,Jesaiah	2-6	0-2	0-0	1	1	4
03 Nash,Jaye	1-4	0-0	1-2	1	1	3
35 Smikle,Ian	1-3	0-0	1-2	5	0	3
TM TEAM	0-0	0-0	0-0	6	0	0
Totals	27-73	7-30	14-19	51	9	75

Team Summary	FG	3PT	FT
First Half	14-34	3-14	5-7
41.18%	21.43%	71.43%
Second Half	11-34	3-13	4-7
32.35%	23.08%	57.14%
OT 1	2-5	1-3	5-5
40.00%	33.33%	100.00%
Total	27-73	7-30	14-19
	37.0%	23.3%	73.7%

Technical Fouls: none	Second Chance Points: 12	Scores Tied: 10 time(s)
Points in the Paint: 38	Fast Break Points: 4	Lead Changed: 6 time(s)
1. Truman State - 172 (6) 2. Illinois Springfield - 162 (2) 3. William Jewell - 161 (4) 4. Lewis - 153 5. Upper Iowa - 152 (2) 6. Indianapolis - 140 (1) 7. Missouri-St. Louis - 132 8. Drury - 107 9. McKendree - 91 10. Missouri S&T - 88 11. Lincoln - 58 12. Maryville - 49 13. Rockhurst - 45 14. Quincy - 44 15. Southwest Baptist - 21

 

[dougheffking]

Here’s the box score from the game. By the way, Missouri State beat SW Baptist 72-67 after leading by 2 at the half. Missouri S&T is predicted to finish 10th in their conference and SW Baptist 15th. Drenin Dinkins, a 6-0 junior,” for SW Baptist, led all scorers with 22 pts. I mention this because I coached his father Dusty Dunkin, when I was an assistant at SW Baptist. I was proud of Dusty and likewise, his son.

70
75

0-0,0-0 GLVC
0-0,0-0 AAC

Team	1	2	OT 1	F
MS&T	24	41	5	70
Winner Tulsa	36	29	10	75

DATE10/29/24TIME7:00 PMATTENDANCE2715SITEDonald W. Reynolds Center, Tulsa, OKREFEREESChris Chumley, Owen Shortt, K.B. Burdett Jr.VIEWMatch History vs Tulsa

Missouri S&T 70​

Missouri S&T 70

Player	FG	3PT	FT	REB	A	PTS
34 Young, Andrew	7-16	0-6	3-4	15	2	17
02 Benassi, Alex	5-13	2-7	1-2	8	5	13
05 Sroka, Ryan	4-14	3-9	1-3	9	1	12
14 Williams, Lovell	4-17	0-7	1-2	5	5	9
10 Stovall, Cameron	3-9	1-3	0-1	6	1	7
35 Brown, Zac	2-4	0-0	0-0	3	1	4
12 Burns, Aidan	1-2	1-2	1-2	0	0	4
23 Rickman, Adam	1-2	0-0	0-0	1	1	2
03 Foley, Dwayne	1-2	0-1	0-0	0	0	2
TM TEAM	0-0	0-0	0-0	4	0	0
Totals	28-79	7-35	7-14	51	16	70

Team Summary	FG	3PT	FT
First Half	10-36	3-16	1-2
27.78%	18.75%	50.00%
Second Half	16-34	4-14	5-10
47.06%	28.57%	50.00%
OT 1	2-9	0-5	1-2
22.22%	0.00%	50.00%
Total	28-79	7-35	7-14
	35.4%	20.0%	50.0%

Technical Fouls: none	Second Chance Points: 18	Scores Tied: 10 time(s)
Points in the Paint: 38	Fast Break Points: 10	Lead Changed: 6 time(s)
Points off Turnovers: 16	Bench Points: 12

Tulsa 75​

Tulsa 75

Player	FG	3PT	FT	REB	A	PTS
08 Archie,Tyshawn	4-10	4-6	0-0	4	3	12
11 Barnes,Isaiah	4-11	0-6	2-4	9	0	10
00 Willis,Keaston	2-7	0-3	6-6	10	1	10
01 Reed,Matthew	3-9	1-4	1-2	4	2	8
04Carrington,Braeden	2-9	1-6	2-2	7	0	7
02 Odom,Dwon	8-14	1-3	1-1	4	1	18
05McWright,Jesaiah	2-6	0-2	0-0	1	1	4
03 Nash,Jaye	1-4	0-0	1-2	1	1	3
35 Smikle,Ian	1-3	0-0	1-2	5	0	3
TM TEAM	0-0	0-0	0-0	6	0	0
Totals	27-73	7-30	14-19	51	9	75

Team Summary	FG	3PT	FT
First Half	14-34	3-14	5-7
41.18%	21.43%	71.43%
Second Half	11-34	3-13	4-7
32.35%	23.08%	57.14%
OT 1	2-5	1-3	5-5
40.00%	33.33%	100.00%
Total	27-73	7-30	14-19
	37.0%	23.3%	73.7%

Technical Fouls: none	Second Chance Points: 12	Scores Tied: 10 time(s)
Points in the Paint: 38	Fast Break Points: 4	Lead Changed: 6 time(s)
1. Truman State - 172 (6) 2. Illinois Springfield - 162 (2) 3. William Jewell - 161 (4) 4. Lewis - 153 5. Upper Iowa - 152 (2) 6. Indianapolis - 140 (1) 7. Missouri-St. Louis - 132 8. Drury - 107 9. McKendree - 91 10. Missouri S&T - 88 11. Lincoln - 58 12. Maryville - 49 13. Rockhurst - 45 14. Quincy - 44 15. Southwest Baptist - 21

But exhibitions mean so much! Eye roll.

 

[I.I.]

Willis with 10 rebounds and Barnes with 9 is promising. But Archie is the only deep threat at this point. Glad they didn't list the turnovers.

 

[dougheffking]

Hoping for improvement
Two easy Ws before ORU here
That will be the first must W if there is a chance for a winning season
The long time fans dating back to the fairgrounds and the assembly center that o knew tonight are worried

Most long time fans don’t

Willis with 10 rebounds and Barnes with 9 is promising. But Archie is the only deep threat at this point. Glad they didn't list the turnovers.

willis is a deep threat and so is Barnes. It was a fluky off night. Do we know when Garcia and amadi come back?

 

[t-townpod]

Take aways from the game...

-- Garcia did not suit-up, so the defense covered Reed and Smikle with 1 defender and their 2 bigs were both better.
--There was no going into the center and a kick out for easy baskets
--Physically Reed looks better, but athletically not the improvement one should see after a first season
--Smikle often out of rebounding position and has weak hands
-- Barnes was so-so, I expected better
-- Willis was rusty after a year lay-off due to injury
--Archie had some great moments, but made to many mistakes with the ball
-- Carrington played well on both ends of the court
-- McWright will see time off the bench, unless he shows more than he showed tonight
.. Odem seemed to be the brightest spot on the court tonight and should become more consistent with playing time.

TU played to lose that game and should have lost to the Miners.
We got lucky with the Archie shot at the buzzer and

Most long time fans don’t

willis is a deep threat and so is Barnes. It was a fluky off night. Do we know when Garcia and amadi come back?

I thought same thing and add Reed but not even close last night

 

[dougheffking]

I thought same thing and add Reed but not even close last night

Last night in a one game sample size, where it clearly human nature to not be as up for a small crap team. Brilliant observation.

 

[TU_BLA]

Closed door scrimmages mean far less than preseason open games. Those are often where coaches are working on specific game scenarios. Remember when we "beat" LSU last year? That meant less than nothing.

The NCAA will hold a D2 exhibition loss against you even if they say it's not part of your "official record" (we learned that with Haith).

Tonight wasn't an NFL or NBA preseason where the starters don't even play. This was 90% of our real team getting taken to the brink by a bunch of kids who probably couldn't dream of getting an NIL check.

Maybe not but they could probably calculate the tax on said NIL check in their heads