January 6 .. What happened
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We have been told one narrative since the beginning about what happened on 6 Jan however as more and more info comes out, it is getting more and more confusing. It seems like the agency knew and played a bigger role than initially thought. This is why a full, bipartisan investigation is so critical.
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It Was a Set-Up: Both DC Mayor Bowser and Nancy Pelosi Turned Down National Guard on Jan. 6 - Chris Wray Refused to Tell Trump Admin "There Could be Situation" | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft
Kash Patel, the Former Chief of Staff to the Secretary of Defense, joined The Epoch Times for an interview recently on the security planning and protests on Jan.
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The FBI is 'manufacturing terrorism cases' on a greater scale than ever before
In many cases, agents will seek out people who have somehow demonstrated radical views, and then coax them into plotting an act of terrorism.
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One is demonstrably worse. Businesses and things can be replaced. Disaster aid can be given. Our government is much harder to insure after people try to overthrow it. To repair it might mean paying with blood rather than currency.
I about spit my iced tea out reading that...
Its funny that the same people that claim that people with ARs cant defeat a tyrranic govt that has f15s and nukes think that an unarmed mob is a threat to the govt.
I guess the junta isnt as stable or as popular as they want us to think.
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When the mob is trying to get into the chambers of congress to violently subdue and suppress a constitutionally mandated electoral process and to capture congressional representatives, I would say yes. It’s a serious threat. The side that’s trying to overthrow the democratic process doesn’t need to be armed when their leader is effectively acting in a similar manner to an African Warlord and keeping the military from protecting the process as the mob he incited to violence is allowed to more or less do what they want. That was the oppression that we would expect to see in Rwanda. Breaking into a local merchandiser chain isn’t something to be supported but we actually see it in civilized countries on occasion and it doesn’t tend to lead to civil war.
Look at France in the last 50 years for example. It’s worse to threaten 60,000,000 people’s electoral representation than it is to threaten 100 people’s businesses. Ask the founding fathers about the Boston Tea Party if you think they thought any differently.
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Capitol Protesters Were Armed With Variety of Weapons - FactCheck.org
Conservative social media posts misleadingly claim the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was not an "armed" insurrection, citing FBI testimony that no guns were seized from suspects that day. But 23 people have been charged with having deadly or dangerous weapons during the assault --...
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I think they can if they have the support of the person commanding a large portion of the military. They don’t need many weapons if the people in the people’s assembly can’t stop them because they don’t have a true military force.
It happened in Rome multiple times to Tribunes of the Plebs. At the behest of the Roman Senators, the tribunes were killed by the mobs (gangs) and thrown into the Tiber. The gangs weren’t heavily armed like a Roman legion was and the legions weren’t allowed into the city by custom.
The Gracchi brothers, Tiberius and Gaius, were Romans who both served as tribunes of the plebs between 133 and 121 BC. They attempted to redistribute the occupation of the ager publicus—the public land hitherto controlled principally by aristocrats—to the urban poor and veterans, in addition to other social and constitutional reforms. After achieving some early success, both were assassinated by the Optimates, the conservative faction in the senate that opposed these reforms.
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One pistol...Capitol Protesters Were Armed With Variety of Weapons - FactCheck.org
Conservative social media posts misleadingly claim the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 was not an "armed" insurrection, citing FBI testimony that no guns were seized from suspects that day. But 23 people have been charged with having deadly or dangerous weapons during the assault --...
Yup.. armed mob. I stand corrected.
The commander in chief should be held to a higher standard of protecting (and not subverting) the constitution. Hence why his impeachment should have turned into a conviction. Not only did he not adequately protect the chamber as it carried out its constitutional duty, he actively supported the possibility of its overthrow. There have to be consequences serious historical consequences to try and prevent that type of behavior and to prevent what has, in the past, turned into a civil war. It happened again when King James I tried to lock Parliament out of their chamber.
It is one thing for a peaceful protest to get out of hand, but an insurrection designed to halt a constitutionally mandated process that has been observed for 200 years and is fundamental to our democratic process is completely different. Central to the oath a president takes is his promise to protect the Constitution. Instead Trump encouraged a mob for months to violently attack its core.
The most discouraging element is that so many officials do understand the difference but prefer excuses because of their political aspirations to lead that same mob.
The Trump continues to raise lots of money by continuing the big lie. It is simply another attack on our country.
Vladimir is smiling.
The most discouraging element is that so many officials do understand the difference but prefer excuses because of their political aspirations to lead that same mob.
The Trump continues to raise lots of money by continuing the big lie. It is simply another attack on our country.
Vladimir is smiling.
When some of the people she was asked to seat on the commission could potentially be asked to testify, that might present a conflict of interest.
Read: Liz Cheney's opening statement at Jan. 6 hearing
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Read: Liz Cheney's opening statement at Jan. 6 hearing
Read Liz Cheney's full opening remarks.
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Wow, even Fox....
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Cops blame Trump, Republicans for allegedly inspiring and then downplaying Jan. 6 Capitol attack
Four police officers who defended the Capitol from the pro-Trump mob that invaded it on Jan. 6 criticized the former president and Republicans who are loyal to him for allegedly inspiring then downplaying the attack, asking members of the select committee investigating Jan. 6 to get to the...
It literally is a bipartisan commission. There are two parties represented. Also the republicans pulled more of their nominations because two accomplices weren’t allowed to sit on the commission. Who’s fault is that really?
How bad has your party become when you’re shunning one person brave enough to stand up for virtues who was related to one of your most influential VP’s ever to sit in the office and both father and daughter have been ultra conservative in their policies. One break with their party on an issue that shouldn’t be partisan, and now you’re saying they’re no longer Republicans.
Moreover, you’re not listening to the actual cops who defended the f’ing constitution. You’re so brainwashed that you won’t even acknowledge that there are some congressional republicans who might bare some responsibility for their literal incitement of a riot that was aimed at halting a constitutionally mandated process.
Videos of Jan 6
Video Evidence Shown in the Capitol Insurrection Criminal Cases
ProPublica and a coalition of 15 other news organizations have been arguing for access to video exhibits shown in the criminal cases against the accused Jan. 6 rioters. We’ll add new videos as we get them.
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Trump pressured DOJ to call election ‘corrupt,’ ex-official wrote
A former top official at the Justice Department wrote that Donald Trump told him to "leave the rest to me and the R. Congressmen."
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Both Sen McConnell and Rep McCarthy have already said Trump is responsible for Jan 6
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McCarthy says Trump ‘bears responsibility’ for Capitol riot
The House GOP leader makes clear he does not support impeachment, even as he publicly rebuked the president.
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As Biden allows no control of our border bring up the last president. Jan 6 was terrible in my opinion. By the next election Trump could be as senile as Biden. I don't think and hope he will not be elected. But your attack all Republicans and defend China crap is getting tired.
I missed the attempted insurrection and claims of election fraud after Trump won in 2016. As I recall Hillary testified under oath in front of taxpayer paid Republican Congress about 11 times over Benghazi. Trump refused to testify before Congress and would only send a letter that his tax payer paid attorneys prepared. .
Try another excuse.
Try another excuse.
A federal judge asked prosecutors why the Justice Department is seeking just $2,000 from Capitol rioters, while US taxpayers are paying more than $500 million for insurrection-related costs
In June, prosecutors estimated the total damage done to the Capitol grounds during the insurrection to be $1,495,326.55
Those things are only liabilities if they aren’t legitimate. That’s like asking about how much the Nixon investigations cost.
The fact don't support this claim. The Mueller report was set in motion by Trump's own DoJ. Mueller' was selected by Trump's DOJ and approved by a Republican controlled Senate. The same Republican Senate voted an additional bill to protect the Mueller investigation. The investigation resulted in multiple criminal convictions via jury trials and guilty pleas. Federal courts have criticized AG Barr for his misrepresentation of the investigation as clearing Trump.
This is an investigation, not a trial.
Trials are conducted through the justice system.
Please Rivals, make your ignore button work….
WTF? You on something. What are the "rules" that you think are missing for the GOP? Are they missing the ability to have ingram come on and lie about his text messages to trump while blaming antifa?
HRC never took the fifth. On one occasion she gave 11 hours of Public testimony before a largely hostile congressional committee and answered every question factually.
Benghazi was “investigated” for FOUR YEARS and did not produce even one indictment.
Your other claims are equally bogus.
Try reality, it is the best cure.
Now McConnell says public needs to know what the House committee finds out.
dems have now been in power for a year all they do is obcess over trump and jan 6.
why not their successes: covid, the economy, supply chain, inflation, the debt, troup withdrawal, immigration, energy independence, and UNITY.
why not their successes: covid, the economy, supply chain, inflation, the debt, troup withdrawal, immigration, energy independence, and UNITY.
Their success: Distributing to everyone intelligent enough to save themselves from severe illness an avenue to do so. Passing a bipartisan bill to improve infrastructure. Not having a president impeached twice. Not having affairs with Porn Stars and paying them hush money… not colluding with foreign powers. Not purposefully misleading the American public for their own benefit. Not tanking the American economy by starting a trade war with China. Not giving new tax breaks to all their buddies and paying for it with new debt from the American public. Not firing half their staffs every week because they don’t like to be told they aren’t correct. Actually reading intelligence briefings… not misleading the public purposefully about public health crises.
Another element is the sense of relief that the Biden is not airing some new grievance every day and calling those who disagree disgusting names to ramp up anger at other countries and fellow Americans. Trump's grievances were never resolved. NKorea was a soap opera. All the drama about NAFTA resulted in minor tweaks. China tariffs only raised prices on Americans. And so on.
The worst element, however, is that while me may have been divided before Trump came in to office, the divisions now are much deeper and the foundation of our democracy is in jeopardy. The video as the top of this thread summarizes what happened a year ago pretty well.
Even commenting here is a waste of time. If the Republicans in Congress who condemned Trump for what they saw with their own eyes and heard with their own ears a year ago have now decided that nothing happened, and 90% of Republicans now agree, then it's hard to believe there is any going back.
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