Is Tulsa Continuing Down The Wrong “Strategic” Road?

[Oak775]

Look at the continued “rinse and repeat” of revolving door of head coaches, assistant coaches and the mass exodus of players via the portal. There’s not much “critical, outside the box” thinking.

College football rosters have evolved into professional football rosters and the “smart” college football teams are emulating pro football structures. The bottom third of rosters are going to be turned over. Just like the NFL. Dion Sanders introduced the concept at Colorado. He was one of the first college coaches to look at the portal like a draft board. Moreover, Sanders had no salary cap.

From the WSJ this morning.

“Belichick spent the fall digging into the college game—with his son Steve, the defensive coordinator at Washington, and consulting other coaches around the sport. And what he soon discovered was a completely new landscape: all the new money pouring into players’ pockets meant that his experience in the pros was more relevant than ever before.

At the same time, officials at the University of North Carolina were watching their football program fall behind the times, according to people familiar with the matter. The Tar Heels had broadly failed to evolve from amateurism to a pro-style model where players get paid.”

Bill Belichick, love him or hate him, is no dummy.

Gundy flushing his staff? A prisoner of war exchange. Nothing more nothing less. No real original or critical thinking there.

I tip my hat to UNC and Bubba Cunningham. There’s discussion at Chapel Hill of bringing in Mike Lombardi to be a “defacto” GM for the Tarheel football team, and bringing in Matt Patricia and Josh McDaniel as coordinators would be a sea change.

Tulsa continues down the “weathered” road with grudging change. NIL.

There’s just not much original “critical” thinking.

 

[TU_BLA]

Look at the continued “rinse and repeat” of revolving door of head coaches, assistant coaches and the mass exodus of players via the portal. There’s not much “critical, outside the box” thinking.

College football rosters have evolved into professional football rosters and the “smart” college football teams are emulating pro football structures. The bottom third of rosters are going to be turned over. Just like the NFL. Dion Sanders introduced the concept at Colorado. He was one of the first college coaches to look at the portal like a draft board. Moreover, Sanders had no salary cap.

From the WSJ this morning.

“Belichick spent the fall digging into the college game—with his son Steve, the defensive coordinator at Washington, and consulting other coaches around the sport. And what he soon discovered was a completely new landscape: all the new money pouring into players’ pockets meant that his experience in the pros was more relevant than ever before.

At the same time, officials at the University of North Carolina were watching their football program fall behind the times, according to people familiar with the matter. The Tar Heels had broadly failed to evolve from amateurism to a pro-style model where players get paid.”

Bill Belichick, love him or hate him, is no dummy.

Gundy flushing his staff? A prisoner of war exchange. Nothing more nothing less. No real original or critical thinking there.

I tip my hat to UNC and Bubba Cunningham. There’s discussion at Chapel Hill of bringing in Mike Lombardi to be a “defacto” GM for the Tarheel football team, and bringing in Matt Patricia and Josh McDaniel as coordinators would be a sea change.

Tulsa continues down the “weathered” road with grudging change. NIL.

There’s just not much original “critical” thinking.

I think you may see more former pro coaches taking the dive into college football as they will understand how to navigate the egos and players being paid mroe than others. I suspect it is something Saban never enjoyed which is why he spent all but a few years in the college game vs the NFL. And why some pro coaches flamed out in college, pre-NIL days (Mike Sherman at AM, Bill Callahan at Nebraska, and many others). I think you will start to see a shift.

Now don't ask me why a pro basketball guy like Penny Hardaway is failing at Memphis...oh yeah, you still have to have a clue how to coach

 

[Lumpuckeroo]

Look at the continued “rinse and repeat” of revolving door of head coaches, assistant coaches and the mass exodus of players via the portal. There’s not much “critical, outside the box” thinking.

College football rosters have evolved into professional football rosters and the “smart” college football teams are emulating pro football structures. The bottom third of rosters are going to be turned over. Just like the NFL. Dion Sanders introduced the concept at Colorado. He was one of the first college coaches to look at the portal like a draft board. Moreover, Sanders had no salary cap.

From the WSJ this morning.

“Belichick spent the fall digging into the college game—with his son Steve, the defensive coordinator at Washington, and consulting other coaches around the sport. And what he soon discovered was a completely new landscape: all the new money pouring into players’ pockets meant that his experience in the pros was more relevant than ever before.

At the same time, officials at the University of North Carolina were watching their football program fall behind the times, according to people familiar with the matter. The Tar Heels had broadly failed to evolve from amateurism to a pro-style model where players get paid.”

Bill Belichick, love him or hate him, is no dummy.

Gundy flushing his staff? A prisoner of war exchange. Nothing more nothing less. No real original or critical thinking there.

I tip my hat to UNC and Bubba Cunningham. There’s discussion at Chapel Hill of bringing in Mike Lombardi to be a “defacto” GM for the Tarheel football team, and bringing in Matt Patricia and Josh McDaniel as coordinators would be a sea change.

Tulsa continues down the “weathered” road with grudging change. NIL.

There’s just not much original “critical” thinking.

The universities with the large NIL bank rolls will continue to stockpile the elite talent
while the mid-majors will occasionally develop an outstanding athlete who will get poached
the next year by the school with deep pockets . Earning a college degree and having school
loyalty means more to us than a lot of 18,19 & 20 year olds that want "instant gratification"
with the mindset of "what's in it for me" mentality .
Today's recruiting landscape is a cluster_ _ _ _ and little colleges like TU are at an even greater
disadvantage . Since supposedly TU has a 3 million dollar NIL budget , I hope they invest
in offensive and defensive linemen first.

 

[Tulsafanzz]

Didn’t TU just fire an old school football coach who resisted the changes in college football and replace him with a young coach who has turned around 2 different programs by using the portal?

Didn’t our new coach say it used to take 3 years to turn around a program, but now he believes it can be done in one year, with the portal and NIL.

Didn’t TU’s President, new (younger) AD & new (younger) football coach ALL say Tulsa is changing the way things have been done here & they plan on competing for championships, partially by embracing instead of fighting the new changes in college football?

It seems this thread made sense months ago, but not today.

If it turns out there’s more changes to make, we currently have an AD & a football coach that appear very willing to adapt as needed.

 

[dougheffking]

Didn’t TU just fire an old school football coach who resisted the changes in college football and replace him with a young coach who has turned around 2 different programs by using the portal?

Didn’t our new coach say it used to take 3 years to turn around a program, but now he believes it can be done in one year, with the portal and NIL.

Didn’t TU’s President, new (younger) AD & new (younger) football coach ALL say Tulsa is changing the way things have been done here & they plan on competing for championships, partially by embracing instead of fighting the new changes in college football?

It seems this thread made sense months ago, but not today.

If it turns out there’s more changes to make, we currently have an AD & a football coach that appear very willing to adapt as needed.

Exactly. I think some people post on here just to post nonsense (me included). This thread should probably be deleted.

 

[drboobay]

I for one am back on the Tulsa football train. The (admittedly necessary) negativity was draining and I am enjoying the espoused renewed commitment.

 

[Oak775]

Didn’t TU just fire an old school football coach who resisted the changes in college football and replace him with a young coach who has turned around 2 different programs by using the portal?

Didn’t our new coach say it used to take 3 years to turn around a program, but now he believes it can be done in one year, with the portal and NIL.

Didn’t TU’s President, new (younger) AD & new (younger) football coach ALL say Tulsa is changing the way things have been done here & they plan on competing for championships, partially by embracing instead of fighting the new changes in college football?

It seems this thread made sense months ago, but not today.

If it turns out there’s more changes to make, we currently have an AD & a football coach that appear very willing to adapt as needed.

Bringing in a young energetic coach will fade with a broken “old school” model.

 

[Oak775]

Exactly. I think some people post on here just to post nonsense (me included). This thread should probably be deleted.

Stifling respectful thoughtful discussion reeks of being just close minded and woke.

If someone doesn’t prescribe to your thought and point of view then close the discussion down. Really?

Merry Christmas…..Oh wait, there’s no Christmas in wokeville.

 

[TulsaRulzOSUdrools]

The universities with the large NIL bank rolls will continue to stockpile the elite talent
while the mid-majors will occasionally develop an outstanding athlete who will get poached
the next year by the school with deep pockets . Earning a college degree and having school
loyalty means more to us than a lot of 18,19 & 20 year olds that want "instant gratification"
with the mindset of "what's in it for me" mentality .
Today's recruiting landscape is a cluster_ _ _ _ and little colleges like TU are at an even greater
disadvantage . Since supposedly TU has a 3 million dollar NIL budget , I hope they invest
in offensive and defensive linemen first.

We should be able to get transfer fees for these transactions

 

[Oak775]

We should be able to get transfer fees for these transactions

A buy out percentage based on portal award from the new team? As amateurism melts away this will be inserted in every player contract. Yes, I said the “C” word.

 

[dougheffking]

Stifling respectful thoughtful discussion reeks of being just close minded and woke.

If someone doesn’t prescribe to your thought and point of view then close the discussion down. Really?

Merry Christmas…..Oh wait, there’s no Christmas in wokeville.

Or or, we don’t need your garbage during a very important portal time for the program. Don’t be a weirdo.

 

[TulsaGrad07]

A buy out percentage based on portal award from the new team? As amateurism melts away this will be inserted in every player contract. Yes, I said the “C” word.

Contracts for the players receiving NIL make sense; seems very intuitive when you think about it. If that ever becomes reality, then athletes should no longer be required to enroll with the university academically if they don't wish to. Make the "student" portion of their concatenation optional, along with getting a degree. They could then just focus on practice, football, fitness and preparing for the big leagues. Not sure what would happen to "scholarships" if that happens, but I'm guessing most players at Alabama and Auburn are barely literate and care only about football.

 

[t-townpod]

The contracts are there. Some include clauses for class attendance and even tutoring sessions. I’m sure they will also have clauses for payment related to the portal deadlines to prevent transferring.
This is a big business and that is why our AD hired General Mangers for our BB and football programs.
TU is not interested in competing with SEC or even ACC, they want to be at the top of the AAC in NIL funding

 

[TU_BLA]

Contracts for the players receiving NIL make sense; seems very intuitive when you think about it. If that ever becomes reality, then athletes should no longer be required to enroll with the university academically if they don't wish to. Make the "student" portion of their concatenation optional, along with getting a degree. They could then just focus on practice, football, fitness and preparing for the big leagues. Not sure what would happen to "scholarships" if that happens, but I'm guessing most players at Alabama and Auburn are barely literate and care only about football.

I'm not sure they can completely separate the programs from the academic mission...at that point they are no longer non-profits and would be subject to taxes.

 

[goldenhurricane1992]

TU is not interested in competing with SEC or even ACC, they want to be at the top of the AAC in NIL funding

Exactly. And the better they do, the more money they’ll have coming in. If they can fund at the top of the AAC and get in the playoff here and there, that will have a huge financial impact. They don’t need to fund at the level of the SEC.

 

[drboobay]

Exactly. And the better they do, the more money they’ll have coming in. If they can fund at the top of the AAC and get in the playoff here and there, that will have a huge financial impact. They don’t need to fund at the level of the SEC.

We want to be among the top desired teams in the next (final?) realignment wave. Certainly at a Tulane level.

 

[chito_and_leon]

that is why our AD hired General Mangers for our BB and football programs.

I didn't hear about this, I was wondering if we would do that. I don't see anything about this on the internets. Who are they? Since they seem to have generated zero press, I guess more lower level admin types? What are their roles? I think the role of GM at colleges is pretty varied at this point, the role of the guy at UNC with Belichick seems a lot different for example than Andrew Luck at Stanford.

 

[Weatherdemon]

Stifling respectful thoughtful discussion reeks of being just close minded and woke.

If someone doesn’t prescribe to your thought and point of view then close the discussion down. Really?

Merry Christmas…..Oh wait, there’s no Christmas in wokeville.

Close minded and woke?
It seems like you don’t know what woke actually means 😂

 

[chito_and_leon]

Close minded and woke?
It seems like you don’t know what woke actually means 😂

It's kind of ironic, with all the different ways Dough Boy is a massive pain in the a$$, the OP managed to call him the one thing that he's never seemed to be (woke - close minded, well yeah, guilty on that one).

 

[dougheffking]

Contracts for the players receiving NIL make sense; seems very intuitive when you think about it. If that ever becomes reality, then athletes should no longer be required to enroll with the university academically if they don't wish to. Make the "student" portion of their concatenation optional, along with getting a degree. They could then just focus on practice, football, fitness and preparing for the big leagues. Not sure what would happen to "scholarships" if that happens, but I'm guessing most players at Alabama and Auburn are barely literate and care only about football.

It's kind of ironic, with all the different ways Dough Boy is a massive pain in the a$$, the OP managed to call him the one thing that he's never seemed to be (woke - close minded, well yeah, guilty on that one).

I’m just overly passionate, and yes can be close minded. But my New Year’s resolution is to solve those!

 

[Gmoney4WW]

Close minded and woke?
It seems like you don’t know what woke actually means 😂

It's the alternate definition for both.

 

[Tulsafanzz]

Yet another example of TU adapting to the new era of college sports:

Per Pete Thamel, TU is hiring a GM for football! He’s Mason Behiel, assistant AD at Fresno State.

 

[chito_and_leon]

Yet another example of TU adapting to the new era of college sports:

Per Pete Thamel, TU is hiring a GM for football! He’s Mason Behiel, assistant AD at Fresno State.

It's hard to have too strong of an opinion on this without knowing more about the role and the guy. I'm sure it'll be helpful to have another junior person in the athletics department focused exclusively on FB (when is it not helpful to add another bureaucrat??). But I' not sure it's being innovative or adapting really. Maybe baby steps towards adapting. I was hoping we'd get a luminary or someone senior with a different skill set than CFB. Mason's background seems to be in regular recruiting and player development. I hope it's more than just adding another headcount doing the same thing with an awesome title.

He is a civil engineer. Maybe he'll be overseeing work on the IPF???

 

[dougheffking]

It's hard to have too strong of an opinion on this without knowing more about the role and the guy. I'm sure it'll be helpful to have another junior person in the athletics department focused exclusively on FB (when is it not helpful to add another bureaucrat??). But I' not sure it's being innovative or adapting really. Maybe baby steps towards adapting. I was hoping we'd get a luminary or someone senior with a different skill set than CFB. Mason's background seems to be in regular recruiting and player development. I hope it's more than just adding another headcount doing the same thing with an awesome title.

He is a civil engineer. Maybe he'll be overseeing work on the IPF???

Weird thing to bitch about.

This is the way things work and my guess is we've done our homework on this.

 

[Tulsafanzz]

It's hard to have too strong of an opinion on this without knowing more about the role and the guy. I'm sure it'll be helpful to have another junior person in the athletics department focused exclusively on FB (when is it not helpful to add another bureaucrat??). But I' not sure it's being innovative or adapting really. Maybe baby steps towards adapting. I was hoping we'd get a luminary or someone senior with a different skill set than CFB. Mason's background seems to be in regular recruiting and player development. I hope it's more than just adding another headcount doing the same thing with an awesome title.

He is a civil engineer. Maybe he'll be overseeing work on the IPF???

Oak775 started this thread by praising Bubba & UNC for being innovative and bringing in a GM (among other things). He said TU isn’t being innovative at all. I’m pointing out that TU has joined the innovation crowd by hiring a GM ( & hiring a new innovative head coach!).

I continue to believe the narrative of this thread was correct months ago, but is incorrect today.

 

[goldenhurricane2]

Facepalm thread.

I get the cynicism, but with everything that has just happened with this coaching hire, it seems TU isn’t doing what TU has always done (as you described in your original post). Carson publicly stating the importance of football and funding it at championship levels (including direct remarks about an IPF - the clearest message we’ve heard in over a decade), Moore revamping the athletic department with positions to actually address important aspects of this age of college sports, NIL commitment ($3m for football is substantial for our league and likely puts us in the upper 1/3 of the conference), increased salary pool for assistant coaches - something that we’d never dream of doing before, and finally direct, clear, and unified messaging from all leaders at TU.

This is all VERY different than we’ve seen for over a decade. So it gives me hope that maybe we’ve finally figured out that we have to do things the right way if we want to actually win consistently.

Damn near every aspect of TU is heading in a more positive direction than they were previously. Are there still some things that need to be addressed? Sure there are. But Carson has done more in his short time than we’ve seen in a really long time at TU (overall). The university was on the brink of the point of no return and now we’re posting $90m surpluses. Things are looking up - I have more hope now than I have in a really long time.

hopefully all this will become more and more clear as time goes and will turn the South Pole elves into North Pole elves 🎅🏼

 

[TU_BLA]

GMs are the trend in college athletics these days. Andrew Luck is the new GM for Stanford football and the way it was described, it is very much a position like an NFL GM, in charge of player personnel moves and contracts, coaching personnel, ops, game day/fans, and the wrinkle in college, NIL fundraising and distribution. My guess is college athletic directors are seeing a need to have program managers because the ADs have too much on their plates to be that involved with just one program.

It's a good move and my guess is these GMs will begin drafting standard NIL contracts for players as well.

 

[chito_and_leon]

Facepalm thread.

I get the cynicism, but with everything that has just happened with this coaching hire, it seems TU isn’t doing what TU has always done (as you described in your original post). Carson publicly stating the importance of football and funding it at championship levels (including direct remarks about an IPF - the clearest message we’ve heard in over a decade), Moore revamping the athletic department with positions to actually address important aspects of this age of college sports, NIL commitment ($3m for football is substantial for our league and likely puts us in the upper 1/3 of the conference), increased salary pool for assistant coaches - something that we’d never dream of doing before, and finally direct, clear, and unified messaging from all leaders at TU.

This is all VERY different than we’ve seen for over a decade. So it gives me hope that maybe we’ve finally figured out that we have to do things the right way if we want to actually win consistently.

Damn near every aspect of TU is heading in a more positive direction than they were previously. Are there still some things that need to be addressed? Sure there are. But Carson has done more in his short time than we’ve seen in a really long time at TU (overall). The university was on the brink of the point of no return and now we’re posting $90m surpluses. Things are looking up - I have more hope now than I have in a really long time.

hopefully all this will become more and more clear as time goes and will turn the South Pole elves into North Pole elves 🎅🏼

I know we're at the bandwagon phase of things, which is fine, those who aren't interested in a real discussion, please ignore.

There's no doubt that TU is showing great commitment to sports with $$ and messaging. I'm a big believer in Brad and if he says it, I 100% think he's going to do everything he can to do it, as I've said before. But while $$ and messaging are fantastic, they are not innovation, which this thread is about.

WRT the GM hire, it's great that we created a title of GM, but it's not clear what that role is. I can call my secretary the GM but it won't change who they are or what they do. I have no right to expect TU to tell me, but if I did, I'd ask, what is the role? Stanford hired Andrew Luck to be a fundraiser and a bridge to whip up the community. UNC hired their GM based on his experience evaluating pro level talent and building teams, St. Joe's BB hired a guy from a sports agency. So there's the luminary model of GM and the grizzled veteran model of GM and the talent focused GM. Our guy is not those. He graduated college in 2020 and has 4 years of experience as Director of Player Personnel. He has no apparent ties to TU or the area. There's also a bunch of schools creating a junior/mid level admin position to organize FB stuff. That's kind of the "go with the crowd" way to get a GM. Maybe our guy's a boy wonder kind of guy, which would be awesome, but otherwise it looks like we've just retitled a FB focused mid-level admin guy as the GM, kind of like the mass of other programs. That doesn't feel super innovative to me, though I'm sure it's a good addition.

I don't agree with Oak that we have to be innovative to win, at least not yet, doing things the traditional way but with more $$ probably is good enough with the right coach, certainly a lot better than it has been, but I"m just reacting to his post.

 

[TU_BLA]

I know we're at the bandwagon phase of things, which is fine, those who aren't interested in a real discussion, please ignore.

There's no doubt that TU is showing great commitment to sports with $$ and messaging. I'm a big believer in Brad and if he says it, I 100% think he's going to do everything he can to do it, as I've said before. But while $$ and messaging are fantastic, they are not innovation, which this thread is about.

WRT the GM hire, it's great that we created a title of GM, but it's not clear what that role is. I can call my secretary the GM but it won't change who they are or what they do. I have no right to expect TU to tell me, but if I did, I'd ask, what is the role? Stanford hired Andrew Luck to be a fundraiser and a bridge to whip up the community. UNC hired their GM based on his experience evaluating pro level talent and building teams, St. Joe's BB hired a guy from a sports agency. So there's the luminary model of GM and the grizzled veteran model of GM and the talent focused GM. Our guy is not those. He graduated college in 2020 and has 4 years of experience as Director of Player Personnel. He has no apparent ties to TU or the area. There's also a bunch of schools creating a junior/mid level admin position to organize FB stuff. That's kind of the "go with the crowd" way to get a GM. Maybe our guy's a boy wonder kind of guy, which would be awesome, but otherwise it looks like we've just retitled a FB focused mid-level admin guy as the GM, kind of like the mass of other programs. That doesn't feel super innovative to me, though I'm sure it's a good addition.

I don't agree with Oak that we have to be innovative to win, at least not yet, doing things the traditional way but with more $$ probably is good enough with the right coach, certainly a lot better than it has been, but I"m just reacting to his post.

Luck's role is so much more than a glad handing fundraiser, at least according to the ESPN story that detailed his hiring and what his role as GM would be.

I have no idea what our GM is going to be tasked with but my guess is with the added NIL pool and the House settlement funds, part of his responsibilities will be monitoring those and the added contractual obligations each will carry for football athletes.

 

[Bigtick72]

TUs entire athletic department operational model has changed. I’m not sure what more innovative change people are looking for? You don’t just flip a switch and everything is new and fresh. There has been a ton of work updating the athletic department since Covid. Brad Carson and company has literally changed EVERYTHING within the athletic department, NIL, donor relations, etc. What we’re seeing now with the football team IS a new and fresh model that you see at other schools. Hell we’re ahead of the curve within G5 in utilizing GMs. I seriously don’t know how you look at literally all the changes the last year+ and think TU athletics is going down a “same-old-same-old” pathway.

 

[TU_BLA]

TUs entire athletic department operational model has changed. I’m not sure what more innovative change people are looking for? You don’t just flip a switch and everything is new and fresh. There has been a ton of work updating the athletic department since Covid. Brad Carson and company has literally changed EVERYTHING within the athletic department, NIL, donor relations, etc. What we’re seeing now with the football team IS a new and fresh model that you see at other schools. Hell we’re ahead of the curve within G5 in utilizing GMs. I seriously don’t know how you look at literally all the changes the last year+ and think TU athletics is going down a “same-old-same-old” pathway.

Agreed, and unfortunately we had to remove all vestiges of Dickson and previous administrations in order to move forward. I'm glad Carson and Moore seem to have a forward thinking, pro-active vision about what TU athletics needs to be instead of always being in a slow moving reactionary mode.

 

[dougheffking]

I know we're at the bandwagon phase of things, which is fine, those who aren't interested in a real discussion, please ignore.

There's no doubt that TU is showing great commitment to sports with $$ and messaging. I'm a big believer in Brad and if he says it, I 100% think he's going to do everything he can to do it, as I've said before. But while $$ and messaging are fantastic, they are not innovation, which this thread is about.

WRT the GM hire, it's great that we created a title of GM, but it's not clear what that role is. I can call my secretary the GM but it won't change who they are or what they do. I have no right to expect TU to tell me, but if I did, I'd ask, what is the role? Stanford hired Andrew Luck to be a fundraiser and a bridge to whip up the community. UNC hired their GM based on his experience evaluating pro level talent and building teams, St. Joe's BB hired a guy from a sports agency. So there's the luminary model of GM and the grizzled veteran model of GM and the talent focused GM. Our guy is not those. He graduated college in 2020 and has 4 years of experience as Director of Player Personnel. He has no apparent ties to TU or the area. There's also a bunch of schools creating a junior/mid level admin position to organize FB stuff. That's kind of the "go with the crowd" way to get a GM. Maybe our guy's a boy wonder kind of guy, which would be awesome, but otherwise it looks like we've just retitled a FB focused mid-level admin guy as the GM, kind of like the mass of other programs. That doesn't feel super innovative to me, though I'm sure it's a good addition.

I don't agree with Oak that we have to be innovative to win, at least not yet, doing things the traditional way but with more $$ probably is good enough with the right coach, certainly a lot better than it has been, but I"m just reacting to his post.

You're just choosing to piss in cheerios for no reason. If you can't see the innovation then we can't help you.

 

[goldenhurricane2]

I know we're at the bandwagon phase of things,

I’ve been on the TU bandwagon for many many years. I don’t plan on hopping off anytime soon.

 

[chito_and_leon]

LOL, you gotta be sure to buckle in to your HANS device before coming on this board, the whiplash could do real damage. It was what, 2 weeks ago that the coach search was dragging on and on and on and now we find out we have one of the most innovative, forward thinking and successful programs in all of CFB? I'm glad nobody mentioned that to the SMU DC...... I think there's a pretty good chance we got accidentally brilliant with Lamb, but hey, go with it, accidental brilliance is half the brilliance in the world.

 

[chito_and_leon]

I’ve been on the TU bandwagon for many many years. I don’t plan on hopping off anytime soon.

Let's be honest, the people still on this board will be posting no matter what. Call it a bandwagon or insanity, we're all guilty of it.

 

[TU_BLA]

LOL, you gotta be sure to buckle in to your HANS device before coming on this board, the whiplash could do real damage. It was what, 2 weeks ago that the coach search was dragging on and on and on and now we find out we have one of the most innovative, forward thinking and successful programs in all of CFB? I'm glad nobody mentioned that to the SMU DC...... I think there's a pretty good chance we got accidentally brilliant with Lamb, but hey, go with it, accidental brilliance is half the brilliance in the world.

Penicillin was a case of accidental brilliance. That's worked out pretty well for the world

 

[chito_and_leon]

Penicillin was a case of accidental brilliance. That's worked out pretty well for the world

Beer, too.

 

[Tulsafanzz]

I think there's a pretty good chance we got accidentally brilliant with Lamb, but hey, go with it, accidental brilliance is half the brilliance in the world.

I completely agree that we got lucky with Lamb. I think he understands the current climate of college football and how to rebuild a program today. That’s exactly what we needed.

I also think Carson/Moore/TU have been working hard to rebuild our athletic department, especially our football program. I also think TU has performed so poorly in recent years, that this coaching search was a very hard sell. But, that doesn’t mean we didn’t try to make a big name, splash hire. Now that some other openings have been filled, I very much believe we made a couple of big attempts.

In the end, I believe we ended up with the best possible hire for TU, considering where the program finished 2024. A young, energetic, talented football coach, combined with university leadership promoting the football program, has me very excited for TU’s football future for the first time in years!